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08-18-2011, 09:10 PM
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Him being any good at all, much less NHL level, is very likely a pipe dream

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08-19-2011, 06:10 AM
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Of all the teams for him to try and crack, a solid play off team seems a little optimistic. I could see him maybe making a team with some young guys that aren't quite ready yet...

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I would have too. It still could happen, however.
Drury just announced he is retiring so the odds are heavily against him trying out. It's a shame because I would have liked to see him try out as well.

We can always just throw a ton of money at him and waive the physical to get him out of retirement. It's like getting a player out of the KHL.

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08-19-2011, 05:34 PM
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I love tryouts. Low risk-high reward. If he kills it in training camp (unlikely, I know) then great. If he sucks, take a hike.
There is no harm in a try out. If they decide Schenn isn't ready, he can start in the AHL and Nylander can play 3C. That's really the problem, he's really a centre, but he's not going to beat out Giroux or Briere, but would you move Jagr down to 3C to play with his buddy?

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I'm not sure that's happening....

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Him being any good at all, much less NHL level, is very likely a pipe dream
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That's really the problem, he's really a centre, but he's not going to beat out Giroux or Briere, but would you move Jagr down to 3C to play with his buddy?

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I'm not sure that's happening....
That was actually my thought. Nylander I can see maybe being a 3rd line center at best with or without Schenn in the line-up, but putting Jagr down there with him seems to be counter-productive if you want him to be a top 2 line player. I think it would have to depend heavily on (1) if Schenn is going to be the 3rd line center/on the opening day lineup in some capacity, (2) if Nylander is healthy enough, and (3) if Jagr is willing to be juggled between several lines if Nylander doesn't work out or be set to 3rd line duty. It is even possible that playing 3rd line minutes not against a top line and still seeing a good amount of PP time will benefit Jagr's production and wear and tear over the course of the season.

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That was actually my thought. Nylander I can see maybe being a 3rd line center at best with or without Schenn in the line-up, but putting Jagr down there with him seems to be counter-productive if you want him to be a top 2 line player. I think it would have to depend heavily on (1) if Schenn is going to be the 3rd line center/on the opening day lineup in some capacity, (2) if Nylander is healthy enough, and (3) if Jagr is willing to be juggled between several lines if Nylander doesn't work out or be set to 3rd line duty. It is even possible that playing 3rd line minutes not against a top line and still seeing a good amount of PP time will benefit Jagr's production and wear and tear over the course of the season.
Jagr third line not happening 2nd possible but i think he will play 1st line..............

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08-22-2011, 10:11 PM
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If you are bringing in Jagr then I think Nylander is a great idea. He might be over the hill but another chance to player with Jagr could breathe new life into his old body, at least for a little while and possibly during the playoffs.

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I think the organization trying to force some type of chemistry with Jagr and Nylander will end up costing Jagr prime opportunities to build chemistry with what will end up being his actual linemates. I don't see any chance of Nylander making the team.

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I think the organization trying to force some type of chemistry with Jagr and Nylander will end up costing Jagr prime opportunities to build chemistry with what will end up being his actual linemates. I don't see any chance of Nylander making the team.
Agree.........

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08-23-2011, 04:46 AM
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Has anyone thought he was brought in just to make the transition a little easier for Jagr in his first few weeks here?

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Has anyone thought he was brought in just to make the transition a little easier for Jagr in his first few weeks here?
Yeah, He's never lived in PA before...

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Yeah, He's never lived in PA before...
Pitt and Philly are NOTHING alike. I should know. I've lived in both for a long time.

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As much as anything else, I think the Flyers decision to offer a tryout invitation to Michael Nylander was a gesture made with input from Jaromir Jagr. The Flyers want to get things off on the right foot with Jagr. I doubt the decision to invite his former linemate to camp was made completely independent of a discussion with the future Hall of Famer.

The odds of Nylander making the opening night roster appear to be slim, considering his age and recent health record. But the act of inviting him to camp and giving him a legitimate evaluation -- whatever the end result -- is a way to show Jagr that the team values his input.

Remember, a happy Jagr is a productive Jagr. An unhappy Jagr can be a headache.

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It's not a bad thing, and honestly, he could be low-risk high-reward anyways, so even if Jagr had the influence on the input to get it done to make him happy, if Nylander did do well in camp and does get signed, then I'm sure it would make not only Jagr feel better, but the team and fans as well for getting another an old, yet skilled, player.

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Jagr and Nylander can skate around in practice and preseason and show the Flyers how they played keep away with the puck for 2 years. Jagr has a certain style he wants to play and it's probably for he and Nyls to do a demo than for Jags to try to explain it.

He had no chemistry with Drury and negative with Gomez.

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If, within the realm of all thing possible, Nylander is healthy enough to play in the NHL and is going to play on a line with Jagr, how much would he end up signing for that would make the Nylander experiment worthwhile?

(Disclaimer: I am in no way support or not supporting the decision to sign him. A lot of things need to fall into place for him to be signed. This is merely hypothetical because, at this time, I do not think he will be signed.)

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When does camp open? I'm sure it's been posted before but I'm real lazy.

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What I think this could end up being is more like a Brendan Morrison tryout rather than a Bill Guerin tryout. Brendan Morrison was on a tryout either last season or a few seasons ago, correct? Maybe I'm delusional. Either way, I think we could at least give him a cheap contract like Morrison has if it works out and he could perform like Morrison did (50-something points I think) I hope it works out and we cut a player or two that doesn't deserve to be here.

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As a 38 or 39 year old who has missed an entire year (old people missing a season at that age is no good) because he broke his back while playing in the AHL (notice: NOT the NHL), Nylander would count as a player who doesn't deserve to be here.

He had 33 points the last season he was in the NHL, by the way. I have an extremely hard time believing that he'll jump up to 50 after breaking his spine.

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As a 38 or 39 year old who has missed an entire year (old people missing a season at that age is no good) because he broke his back while playing in the AHL (notice: NOT the NHL), Nylander would count as a player who doesn't deserve to be here.

He had 33 points the last season he was in the NHL, by the way. I have an extremely hard time believing that he'll jump up to 50 after breaking his spine.
It's just a tryout. Even if he plays worse than anyone in the history of the NHL, there is no harm done. Now, if they give him a contract after he plays worse than anyone in the history of the NHL, then we have a problem.

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So the bottom line is, we have to go out of our way to make Jagr happy by, among other things, bringing his old, broken down friends to the sandbox. If he's mad, he'll pout and won't be productive.

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