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08-27-2011, 07:03 AM
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Trade Rumors and Proposal Thread XVII

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Heard negotiations with Marchand aren't going well, wondering what it would take to get him?

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Probably too much, Marchard is one of those players you'd rather not play against and he will have multiple suitors so I bet you Chilli sends him out of conference. Plus, he is overrated. He is Foligno +1, with additional coverage.

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Heard negotiations with Marchand aren't going well, wondering what it would take to get him?
Don't think I'd want to give up what it would take to get him. Bruins are going to sell high off his playoff run.

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Heard negotiations with Marchand aren't going well, wondering what it would take to get him?
I'd love to have Marchand on this team, but we already have our own goal scoring **** disturber on the way in Noesen.

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Probably too much, Marchard is one of those players you'd rather not play against and he will have multiple suitors so I bet you Chilli sends him out of conference. Plus, he is overrated. He is Foligno +1, with additional coverage.
Marchand is quiet different from Foligno. Marchand uses his agility and speed to get into open spaces. He's great on his edges and can turn on a dime. He's also a real s*** disturber and can change the momentum of a game in various ways. Not only is he Foligno + 1 and more he's a completely different player.

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It would probably take an offer sheet that costs a 1st + 3rd
There is no way we would offer up our 1st...

equate that value in prospects and since the Bruins know the Sens will not send in an offer sheet it will be a little more then that.

So say Butler + O'Brien + Grant would be close to the asking price

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It would probably take an offer sheet that costs a 1st + 3rd
There is no way we would offer up our 1st...

equate that value in prospects and since the Bruins know the Sens will not send in an offer sheet it will be a little more then that.

So say Butler + O'Brien + Grant would be close to the asking price
I'd love to get Marchand and I think he would give us a huge edge against physical teams and against the battle of Ontario, like our own Tucker but wayy more skilled.

However, Grant added to that mix of players makes me think twice. I'd probably still do it.

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So say Butler + O'Brien + Grant would be close to the asking price
Easily done, I'd even add a 7th for good measure.

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Easily done, I'd even add a 7th for good measure.
Kovalev was traded for 7th

I'm sorry but Kovalev+O'Brien+Grant+Butler does not cut it for me.

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Kovalev was traded for 7th

I'm sorry but Kovalev+O'Brien+Grant+Butler does not cut it for me.
Doesn't really work that way... or why not say Kovy, Butler, 1st, 4th for a 3rd

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Doesn't really work that way... or why not say Kovy, Butler, 1st, 4th for a 3rd
Lol I was being sarcastic

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we would most likely give away one of cowen, lehner or rundblad

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we would most likely give away one of cowen, lehner or rundblad
Lol, no we wouldn't.

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Probably too much, Marchard is one of those players you'd rather not play against and he will have multiple suitors so I bet you Chilli sends him out of conference. Plus, he is overrated. He is Foligno +1, with additional coverage.
I'd love to have that player. Especially after a clutch playoff performance. He's like Foligno, but skates much better and quicker, is much more in your face, has better hockey sense and thinks the same quicker.

Hmm, doesn't sound like the same player at all.

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Lol I was being sarcastic
Sorry, my bad... I've seen too many similar posts that are 100% serious, tho.

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I'd love to have that player. Especially after a clutch playoff performance. He's like Foligno, but skates much better and quicker, is much more in your face, has better hockey sense and thinks the same quicker.

Hmm, doesn't sound like the same player at all.
I'd love that player too, if we drafted him and he wasn't likely asking for 3 million bucks per. He isn't the kind of player you "buy high" on, because he isn't a top talent and is likely never going to be a top offensive contributor. A damn good playoff doesn't change that, unless you are also going ga-ga over Bergenheim, which isn't nearly as cool.

Foligno admittedly has some improving to do, hence the + part of Foligno+, but if he does improve I bet it comes in the exact areas you just described. I am not trading assets, and handing out a new contract, for a glorified grinder. Teams need players like that to win, but you find your own.

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I'd love to have that player. Especially after a clutch playoff performance. He's like Foligno, but skates much better and quicker, is much more in your face, has better hockey sense and thinks the same quicker.

Hmm, doesn't sound like the same player at all.
Agree with blue, disagree with red. Marchand is a very good up and down grinding winger, but his lack of hockey sense is exactly the reason I wouldn't want to see him with the puck very often outside of the opposing teams blueline. I'd rather have Foligno in our zone and the neutral zone.

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Brad Marchand is this generations Claude Lemieux.

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Sorry, my bad... I've seen too many similar posts that are 100% serious, tho.
Haha, don't blame ya.

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Marchard had a great playoff run, but it's too early to be throwing around draft picks for him.

At best, he can be full time 2nd liner. But that depends on how consistent he can be over the next couple of years.

Right now, he's a top-end 3rd liner, with PK ability.

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Marchard had a great playoff run, but it's too early to be throwing around draft picks for him.

At best, he can be full time 2nd liner. But that depends on how consistent he can be over the next couple of years.

Right now, he's a top-end 3rd liner, with PK ability.
No, right now he's a good 2nd liner. He had 20 goals, played on the 2nd line all year for the cup champs and had great numbers in the playoffs. At best he'll be a 1st-2nd line tweener.

Although I would not give him an offer sheet that requires a 1st and 3rd. The Bruins would match anything that requires a 2nd, so there's not much point in discussing acquiring him.

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Marchand's value is as high as it could possibly be right now, imo. I do think that he is a better than Foligno is right now (significantly better offensively), but I also don't think we can say we know exactly what kind of player Marchand is after one good year/playoff run. I know I wouldn't want to pay Boston's price.

I do think people are underrating him by oversimplfying it and calling him a 3rd liner... there aren't a ton of players who put up 20 goals as a rookie (and 20 points in the playoffs) who top out as a 3rd liner.

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No, right now he's a good 2nd liner. He had 20 goals, played on the 2nd line all year for the cup champs and had great numbers in the playoffs. At best he'll be a 1st-2nd line tweener.

Although I would not give him an offer sheet that requires a 1st and 3rd. The Bruins would match anything that requires a 2nd, so there's not much point in discussing acquiring him.
Right now, he's a tweener 2nd/3rd liner. He's played 1 full season, and scored 41 points. Which is a great 1st season, but that doesn't mean he's a full time 2nd liner.

That's why I said if he can stay consistent, he'll be worthy of a 2nd liner.

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No, right now he's a good 2nd liner. He had 20 goals, played on the 2nd line all year for the cup champs and had great numbers in the playoffs. At best he'll be a 1st-2nd line tweener.

Although I would not give him an offer sheet that requires a 1st and 3rd. The Bruins would match anything that requires a 2nd, so there's not much point in discussing acquiring him.
No, he's not. Right now, he's a solid 3rd liner with the potential to be a great agitating 2nd line winger. This happens every year. Players have great post seasons, and then they are "good 2nd liners". See Joel Ward, Jamie Langenbrunner, etc, etc, etc.

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