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08-29-2011, 04:58 AM
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If looking for bottom line depth I'd rather give trent hunter a shot, He's still a free agent right?.

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With all due respect to Maxwell, Wellwood has some world class skill that Maxwell doesn't. I think Welly could put up some really good numbers if given some opportunity, his problem is that he's a bit of a liability when the other team has the puck.

I wouldn't mind giving him an chance at earning a spot - if he doesn't, we have some more rounded young guys like Maxwell who can do good things for us.
What do you mean he is a liability when the other team has the puck? He had like the lowest GA/60 in the league last year. He was a team leading +6 for San Jose in the playoffs. He is not the best centre and will not put up alot of points, but he is a great defensive winger who can move in for draws, at this point in his career.

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08-29-2011, 09:41 AM
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Didn't he play mainly at RW in San Jose?

I could see him working as a 2nd line RW until Fehr is healthy. He's not an ideal top-6 winger, but he could fit in a pinch. He also has the defensive capabilities to fit on the 3rd line. Him and Burmistrov could form a demon checking line, actually.

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08-29-2011, 11:58 AM
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Kyle Wellwood is an extremely talented young player with absolutely no finish, he can get the puck there, but fumbles it worse than a nerd from the chess clubs trying to ask out an incredibly good looking girl.... i watched this kid in Van a lot, and it was more than frustrating to watch him fully knowing 98% of the time he couldnt finish what he started...

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I would be okay with either Wellwood or Hunter brought into camp on an invite or even signed to a cheap 1 year deal.

While I am not all in or advocating that the Jets pursue these players, I wouldn't be against it either.

Beggars cannot be choosers.

If they are only brought in as an invite to earn a contract, they still have to beat out our own youngsters. If our prospects cannot beat out the likes of Hunter or Wellwood then they are clearly not ready anyways.

Let's just add another name to the training camp list and get this season under way already. What a loooonnnggggggg summer

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08-29-2011, 01:29 PM
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Isn't he decent at face-offs? He can play centre or on the wing and is a decent top 6 fill-in and decent bottom 6 stopgap--not particularly good at either, but serviceable. He brings a bit more competition into camp, especially at a position of need. If it's a two-way deal I'm all for it.

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08-29-2011, 01:53 PM
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Smellwood? please say they aren't serious. If they pick him up please keep the trainers on his lazy ass

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08-29-2011, 04:11 PM
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Man oh man! I believe in having players with heart and passion but we also need SKILL! Are there any other third or fourth liners we could pick up?

Are we trying NOT to make the playoffs? We were closer with the Thrasher team we inherited. We let Stewart go for nothing and now the Canes' are planning on putting him on the top line. All we've signed are AHL wanna-bees and college players with potential.

The Flames are trading tough rugged center Langkow who had 33G last year to PHX. Why didn't we inquire into this trade?

Come on Chevy! We're not an AHL team in Winnipeg.

Maybe consider trading Bogo and his big agent's head. He wants 4-5M a year! For a fifth defenceman at best on this team? He's no Schenn and never will be! Get us a skilled top 6 forward while he still has value! We have enough 3/4 liners!

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Man oh man! I believe in having players with heart and passion but we also need SKILL! Are there any other third or fourth liners we could pick up?

Are we trying NOT to make the playoffs? We were closer with the Thrasher team we inherited. We let Stewart go for nothing and now the Canes' are planning on putting him on the top line. All we've signed are AHL wanna-bees and college players with potential.

The Flames are trading tough rugged center Langkow who had 33G last year to PHX. Why didn't we inquire into this trade?

Come on Chevy! We're not an AHL team in Winnipeg.

Maybe consider trading Bogo and his big agent's head. He wants 4-5M a year! For a fifth defenceman at best on this team? He's no Schenn and never will be! Get us a skilled top 6 forward while he still has value! We have enough 3/4 liners!
Because the Flames wanted a scoring winger and the Jets don't have any they can part with. Plus Langkow is a little injury prone.

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Man oh man! I believe in having players with heart and passion but we also need SKILL! Are there any other third or fourth liners we could pick up?

Are we trying NOT to make the playoffs? We were closer with the Thrasher team we inherited. We let Stewart go for nothing and now the Canes' are planning on putting him on the top line. All we've signed are AHL wanna-bees and college players with potential.

The Flames are trading tough rugged center Langkow who had 33G last year to PHX. Why didn't we inquire into this trade?

Come on Chevy! We're not an AHL team in Winnipeg.

Maybe consider trading Bogo and his big agent's head. He wants 4-5M a year! For a fifth defenceman at best on this team? He's no Schenn and never will be! Get us a skilled top 6 forward while he still has value! We have enough 3/4 liners!
Haven't we been up and down this road enough?

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Man oh man! I believe in having players with heart and passion but we also need SKILL! Are there any other third or fourth liners we could pick up?

Are we trying NOT to make the playoffs? We were closer with the Thrasher team we inherited. We let Stewart go for nothing and now the Canes' are planning on putting him on the top line. All we've signed are AHL wanna-bees and college players with potential.

The Flames are trading tough rugged center Langkow who had 33G last year to PHX. Why didn't we inquire into this trade?

Come on Chevy! We're not an AHL team in Winnipeg.

Maybe consider trading Bogo and his big agent's head. He wants 4-5M a year! For a fifth defenceman at best on this team? He's no Schenn and never will be! Get us a skilled top 6 forward while he still has value! We have enough 3/4 liners!

Really man???? Langkow played about 5 games last year...maybe he got 33 goals in practice with 8 year olds...great player 5 years ago...think about it!!!

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best season was the 2006-07 campaign when he scored 33 goals and 44 assists playing on a line with Flames captain Jarome Iginla.

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still want to see more skilled players than wellwood

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Man oh man! I believe in having players with heart and passion but we also need SKILL! Are there any other third or fourth liners we could pick up?

Are we trying NOT to make the playoffs? We were closer with the Thrasher team we inherited. We let Stewart go for nothing and now the Canes' are planning on putting him on the top line. All we've signed are AHL wanna-bees and college players with potential.

The Flames are trading tough rugged center Langkow who had 33G last year to PHX. Why didn't we inquire into this trade?

Come on Chevy! We're not an AHL team in Winnipeg.

Maybe consider trading Bogo and his big agent's head. He wants 4-5M a year! For a fifth defenceman at best on this team? He's no Schenn and never will be! Get us a skilled top 6 forward while he still has value! We have enough 3/4 liners!
This has got to be a joke post. Nobody can possibly be this misinformed about player transactions.

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seven-time 20-goal scorer and eight-time 50-point scorer in his career

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seven-time 20-goal scorer and eight-time 50-point scorer in his career
Should we sign every player who was once successful? I hear Yashin might be available?
You can't sign players based on what they've done, you have to make an educated assessment of what they will do in the future.

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Langkow's career is pretty much over.

Players that miss an entire season take a long time to get back into game shape and even then, they might never return to their pre-injury form (and Langkow is already 34).

Even on Phoenix's top line, I don't see him putting up more than 20 goals or 50 points (which is pretty much what they gave up in Lee Stempniak, minus the injuries, six years in age difference and 2.6 million in salary)

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Langkow, Zherdev, Wellwood, and etc. aren't the kind of players we need. Really people?

Two are lazy, one is selfish, and the other is in the twilight stage of his career with little to no offensive upside at this point. Actually, I would say it's all downhill from here on in concerning Lang. Lets not try and quote a guy who's best season was 5 years ago. His last full season he put up 14 goals and 37 points, and that was two years ago. Add to the fact he played in all but 4 games, this year, you can chalk up health as an issue there as well.

I suppose he would still be a decent depth scorer and could get you as much as 20 goals and 45 points for one more season. Baring in mind that he plays over 70 games of course. Just don't see why we should have traded for him.

He's a decent veteran presence to the young core of players we have, but short term he doesn't add as much as a Stillman who has excelled at the highest stage, and know what it takes to win, or help us long term, since the guy will be 35 and his numbers have been on a continuous decline from his 2006/07 season best 33 goals and 77 points.

P.S. I have always wanted Stillman as a mentor kind of guy to the very young roster the Jets exude, and if he came on the cheap. From the sounds of it he maybe finished.


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Smellwood? please say they aren't serious. If they pick him up please keep the trainers on his lazy ass
This isn't a fair assessment anymore. He trimmed down once Vancouver got their trainers on him, and he's probably one of the skinniest players in the league now. He could stand to add some quality pounds...

Once you get a reputation, or a "fat pic" circulates on the internet of you in a cast, there's no turning that around it seems.

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This isn't a fair assessment anymore. He trimmed down once Vancouver got their trainers on him, and he's probably one of the skinniest players in the league now. He could stand to add some quality pounds...

Once you get a reputation, or a "fat pic" circulates on the internet of you in a cast, there's no turning that around it seems.
Either way, his body conditioning isn't there. That was why he was mainly used as a power play specialist with his time in Vancouver and rarely saw any ES minutes. And be easy on us concerning "the infamous picture", that was a recent picture taken as an NHL employed player. And a picture tells a million words. I haven't seen a skinny topless pic of the guy either (sounds soft porn in nature). Like you said, he didn't exactly have quality weight on his frame. Like added muscle. There was not only a gut that came with that picture but a very lean upper build, and non-toned body as well. Man, we can get so analytical on this forum. lol

I have a body more of an NHL player than he does (that and I have competed at the local body building circuit here), and I am just a film student. lol

No, not everyone has to look like Rod Brind'Amour without a shirt on, but they definitely should look the part of a fit professional hockey athlete. Which is low body fat and decent-to-good muscle tone.


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Either way, his body conditioning isn't there. That was why he was mainly used as a power play specialist with his time in Vancouver and rarely saw any ES minutes. And be easy on us concerning "the infamous picture", that was a recent picture taken as an NHL employed player. And a picture tells a million words. I haven't seen a skinny topless pic of the guy either (sounds soft porn in nature). Like you said, he didn't exactly have quality weight on his frame. Like added muscle. There was not only a gut that came with that picture but a very lean upper build, and non-toned body as well. Man, we can get so analytical on this forum. lol

I have a body more of an NHL player than he does (that and I have competed at the local body building circuit here), and I am just a film student. lol

No, not everyone has to look like Rod Brind'Amour without a shirt on, but they definitely should look the part of a fit professional hockey athlete. Which is low body fat and decent-to-good muscle tone.
Agreed. How you can get fat with the amount of cardio these players endure all season is beyond me. He was hurt at the time of the photo, though. Not much cardio being done on a bum leg.

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And be easy on us concerning "the infamous picture", that was a recent picture taken as an NHL employed player. And a picture tells a million words.
http://media.canada.com/718a79b0-7a4...llwood2web.jpg

Indeed it does, he had a bit of a gut (maybe 10-15 pounds overweight) and a cast on his leg in the 2008 off-season. Unless you're talking about a different pic?

Why he still gets dogged with the 'fat and lazy' rep is beyond me.

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Agreed. How you can get fat with the amount of cardio these players endure all season is beyond me. He was hurt at the time of the photo, though. Not much cardio being done on a bum leg.
Ask Turk Broda, Lorne "Gump" Worsley, Grant Fuhr, Keith Tkachuk, and of recent, Guillaume Latendresse.

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http://media.canada.com/718a79b0-7a4...llwood2web.jpg

Indeed it does, he had a bit of a gut (maybe 10-15 pounds overweight) and a cast on his leg in the 2008 off-season. Unless you're talking about a different pic?

Why he still gets dogged with the 'fat and lazy' rep is beyond me.
Just noticed you posted the link to that "infamous pic". Yeah that was the pic and sure he had the cast, but he had a doughy build even prior to his injury and after it as well. Cast or no cast, he hasn't been known for his fantastic conditioning. Like I said Gary Roberts and Rod Brind'Amour he ain't. Man, I am too hockey obsessed. Cut me off people! That's it I am working on a website for a client. Need to work. GAH!

But I will say this about Kyle, guy is a great hockey player. Great hands and vision. Very creative. Looked very promising in his Maple Leaf days.

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Just noticed you posted the link to that "infamous pic". Yeah that was the pic and sure he had the cast, but he had a doughy build even prior to his injury and after it as well. Cast or no cast, he hasn't been known for his fantastic conditioning. Like I said Gary Roberts and Rod Brind'Amour he ain't. Man, I am too hockey obsessed. Cut me off people! That's it I am working on a website for a client. Need to work. GAH!

But I will say this about Kyle, guy is a great hockey player. Great hands and vision. Very creative. Looked very promising in his Maple Leaf days.
If Wellwood is great you need to raise your criteria. He's a talented NHL hockey player, but he's not in the top 50 players in the league. If he's great what does that make Ovi and Crosby?

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