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09-01-2011, 12:07 AM
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Daniel's Sleepless Nights & Accountability

The 2nd part of the Subject is my added title:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=374878

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"For a couple of weeks afterwards you think about it every day," Sedin said Wednesday after skating with several other players at a local arena. "You try to think what went wrong.

"It was a tough time. You get stronger from that too. If we learned a few lessons, I think we will be ready for this year."
This is the part I'm really happy that he stated:
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The twins struggled in the final. Daniel had one goal and three assists in seven games. Henrik, the Canucks' captain, led the playoffs with 19 assists but didn't manage one against the Bruins.

Daniel Sedin said he knows that will give the brother's critics more ammunition.

"We didn't produce the way we wanted to produce," he said. "Our only chance is to produce.

"If we don't do that, we're losers. That's the way it is."
Atleast he admits to his shortcomings in the finals and identifies that he wasnt nearly good enough. It's (IMO) the right attitude to have to move forward and learn from your mistakes.

I'd love to hear what Luongo says.

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The Sedins are going to do exactly what they've done the entire time they've been NHL players. Absorb a mountain of **** from the press after a disappointment, learn from it, and work harder to be better next time.

There is no Luongo comment that won't be turned into a negative.

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I like the Sedins and their dedication to the team and city but I really don't see these guys leading us to the cup, it'll be Kesler. Would love for the Sedins to prove me wrong but them and Luongo are two players who need to start proving it in the post season cause their too inconsistent and they drop from super stars reg season players to good players in the playoffs.

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The Sedins aren't making any excuses, which is good moving forward. They're only putting blame on themselves and no one else, that's a leader and a good teammate.

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Is there anyone of the core who have proven themselves to be greatplayoff players?

All of the Sedins, Luongo, Kesler, Burrows have been very inconsistent.

They all pretty much just haven't been playoff performers.

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Is there anyone of the core who have proven themselves to be greatplayoff players?

All of the Sedins, Luongo, Kesler, Burrows have been very inconsistent.

They all pretty much just haven't been playoff performers.
Different sport, but just look at Dirk Nowitzki, or even in the NHL, Datsyuk before the 2008 cup.

I can't say the Canuck's core is proven, but it doesn't mean it can't be done.

Kesler has had the misfortune of untimely injuries in his defense.

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Is there anyone of the core who have proven themselves to be greatplayoff players?

All of the Sedins, Luongo, Kesler, Burrows have been very inconsistent.

They all pretty much just haven't been playoff performers.
not sure if serious

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Different sport, but just look at Dirk Nowitzki, or even in the NHL, Datsyuk before the 2008 cup.

I can't say the Canuck's core is proven, but it doesn't mean it can't be done.

Kesler has had the misfortune of untimely injuries in his defense.
Also, with the Sedins going cold, it hurts Burrows a lot.

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That's what I like to hear. That's leadership.

I believe in this core. I haven't seen it yet from them, but I strongly believe this group can do it for us.

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Is there anyone of the core who have proven themselves to be greatplayoff players?

All of the Sedins, Luongo, Kesler, Burrows have been very inconsistent.

They all pretty much just haven't been playoff performers.
Interesting how you include Burrows in that list. What more do you want from a 2mil guy?

Kesler was effective in round 1 vs CHI.

Great in Rd 2 Vs Nash.

Avg in Rd 3 vs SJ

Injured in Rd 4 vs BOS


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Is there anyone of the core who have proven themselves to be greatplayoff players?

All of the Sedins, Luongo, Kesler, Burrows have been very inconsistent.

They all pretty much just haven't been playoff performers.
wat.

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the sedins might have an unwarranted "soft" tag around the league for their physical play (which is absurd, as no two superstars take as much abuse without getting calls or complaining about said non-calls), but they're the two most mentally strong guys on the team

unquestioned work ethic, consistent as the sunrise, and a desire to be the best in the league

training camp will start in a few weeks and of course they'll report as the most fit guys on the team

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Is there anyone of the core who have proven themselves to be greatplayoff players?

All of the Sedins, Luongo, Kesler, Burrows have been very inconsistent.

They all pretty much just haven't been playoff performers.
Considering the Sedins and Luongo are our top guys and expected to be our best players every night, i'll agree with them needing to be more consistent in the playoffs.

That said, I'm not really sure how you would consider Kesler and Burrows to be inconsistent. Burrows is about as clutch a playoff performer as it gets and Kesler played the final 2 playoff series on one leg. Perhaps you missed the first 2 series and the Nashville series in particular? He proved against a stingy defense that he can dominate when it matters most.

It's funny how quickly everyone forgets that every player on this team was one win away from being put in to 'legendary' status for the franchise. With this core I have no doubt we can win a cup.

As far as topic goes, it's refreshing to see one of our leaders completely humbled. The Sedins have proven year after year that they can keep getting better. And now they've learned the biggest lesson of all losing in game 7. We will see if the Sedins can yet again elevate their game and cement themselves as the best Canuck players in history *gasp* Yes, I said it.

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The 2nd part of the Subject is my added title:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=374878



This is the part I'm really happy that he stated:


Atleast he admits to his shortcomings in the finals and identifies that he wasnt nearly good enough. It's (IMO) the right attitude to have to move forward and learn from your mistakes.

I'd love to hear what Luongo says.
If Luongo said that your thread title would have been, Luongo throws team under the bus, says, "We're losers."

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The 2nd part of the Subject is my added title:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=374878



This is the part I'm really happy that he stated:


Atleast he admits to his shortcomings in the finals and identifies that he wasnt nearly good enough. It's (IMO) the right attitude to have to move forward and learn from your mistakes.

I'd love to hear what Luongo says.
Really???

I'd love to hear nothing from Luongo all season.

Keep his yap shut and stop the puck!

Either way he will be villified by somebody, but at least he can focus on one thing.

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I'd love to hear nothing from Luongo all season.
Word. Luongo needs to stay down and shut up this season.

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The Sedins are going to do exactly what they've done the entire time they've been NHL players. Absorb a mountain of **** from the press after a disappointment, learn from it, and work harder to be better next time.

There is no Luongo comment that won't be turned into a negative.
Top post. You murdered the thread. There really is nothing else to say.


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Word. Luongo needs to stay down and shut up this season.
Sounds great but last time that happned the media turned it into a negative. Luongo can do no right.

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I think the Sedins aren't getting a fair representation of how they played in the playoffs this year. Kesler gets all the credit in the world for the Nashville series (which he deserves), but people have all but forgotten how Hank in particular RAN **** in the San Jose series. 12 points in 5 games! That's tying Bure for most points in a single round by a Canuck ever. He was leading all playoff scoring at that point.

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Considering the Sedins and Luongo are our top guys and expected to be our best players every night, i'll agree with them needing to be more consistent in the playoffs.

That said, I'm not really sure how you would consider Kesler and Burrows to be inconsistent. Burrows is about as clutch a playoff performer as it gets and Kesler played the final 2 playoff series on one leg. Perhaps you missed the first 2 series and the Nashville series in particular? He proved against a stingy defense that he can dominate when it matters most.

It's funny how quickly everyone forgets that every player on this team was one win away from being put in to 'legendary' status for the franchise. With this core I have no doubt we can win a cup.

As far as topic goes, it's refreshing to see one of our leaders completely humbled. The Sedins have proven year after year that they can keep getting better. And now they've learned the biggest lesson of all losing in game 7. We will see if the Sedins can yet again elevate their game and cement themselves as the best Canuck players in history *gasp* Yes, I said it.
I'm going by playoff careers.

In his playoff career combined Ryan Kesler has been a lifeless corpse.. ONE great playoff series the rest he has been VERY mediocre.

Burrows same thing he had some highlight extremely clutch moments this year for sure but for his playoff career? Kind of a no show.

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I cannot beleive that the league got away clean with taking the two star's bodygaurd away for an unprecedented four game suspension in the finals!!!

Gretzky wouldn't have been effective in the same environment! Think about the way the league treated Gretzky and the way they treated the Sedins. This is a Mickey Mouse little league and always will be.

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That's what I like to hear. That's leadership.

I believe in this core. I haven't seen it yet from them, but I strongly believe this group can do it for us.

Haven't seen it from them yet? The team just came as close to winning a cup as a team can get. I'd say you saw that this core is capable of winning a cup.

The team just lost game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals, I find it very hard to believe they aren't playoff performers. They wouldn't have gotten that far if they couldn't perform ...

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I think the Sedins aren't getting a fair representation of how they played in the playoffs this year. Kesler gets all the credit in the world for the Nashville series (which he deserves), but people have all but forgotten how Hank in particular RAN **** in the San Jose series. 12 points in 5 games! That's tying Bure for most points in a single round by a Canuck ever. He was leading all playoff scoring at that point.
That's the only series where Hank was good in though. 1/4 isn't good at all...

The only players who can hold their head up high for their performance in the SCF are Jannik Hansen, Maxim Lapierre and Raffi Torres. Everyone else was a disappointment, injuries notwithstanding.

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I agree Kesler has had one great round in his playoff history. Burrows has scored too many clutch playoff goals to be included with Kesler. Also both struggled on the p.k. vs L.A. while the Sedins in the end won that series with Samuelsson. Also the first time the Canucks lost to Chicago the Sedins went off in game 6 while Kane just scored more. Kesler's line didn't score or stop anyone. I think Kesler is on the right path and his compete level is great, but he still has something to prove just like the Sedins in the playoffs.

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Haven't seen it from them yet? The team just came as close to winning a cup as a team can get. I'd say you saw that this core is capable of winning a cup.

The team just lost game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals, I find it very hard to believe they aren't playoff performers. They wouldn't have gotten that far if they couldn't perform ...
They got to the Finals, yes. They never played like Champions though. Every time they'd put up a solid performance in Vancouver, they'd go and crap the bed in Boston. Champions don't do that.

I felt that the team could have played better throughout the whole thing. Chicago and Nashville series could've and should've been over much earlier than it was. If they played like they did in games 1-3 of the Chicago series I think without a doubt they would have smacked everybody in their way.

And then our best player in the Finals was the guy that got ventilated everytime we went to Boston. Considering that, it's hard to wrap my mind that we won 3 games in that series.

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The Sedins are going to do exactly what they've done the entire time they've been NHL players. Absorb a mountain of **** from the press after a disappointment, learn from it, and work harder to be better next time.

There is no Luongo comment that won't be turned into a negative.
If you look at the thread on the main boards, apparently the same rule applies to whatever the Sedins say too.

They are two of the most classy and respectable players in the league, yet NOBODY recognizes that. I hate these boards. Pathetic.

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