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06-04-2011, 11:06 AM
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Nathan MacKinnon skating with Omaha?

TSN Hockey Analyst Bob Mackenzie reported on twitter that Nathan MacKinnon, the top pick in the QMJHL draft today, was skating with Omaha this a.m.. Kid obviously weighing his options - and appears to be declaring his intentions this way (trade from Baie-Comeau or NCAA). Can anyone following the Lancers provide any more info?

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06-04-2011, 12:55 PM
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TSN Hockey Analyst Bob Mackenzie reported on twitter that Nathan MacKinnon, the top pick in the QMJHL draft today, was skating with Omaha this a.m.. Kid obviously weighing his options - and appears to be declaring his intentions this way (trade from Baie-Comeau or NCAA). Can anyone following the Lancers provide any more info?
Has anybody asked him where he wants to play? Has he expressed a preference for either the Q or the U?

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It is widely believed that Nathan will play in the Q, but his non-appearence at the draft certainly suggests he is not interested in playing for the Drakkar - which of course is further enforced by Nathan skating with the Lancers...

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Metro News in Halifax twitter has reported that MacKinnon is on the verge of becoming a Halifax Moosehead...

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Stephane Leroux on Twitter has confirmed the Mooseheads will acquire MacKinnon - presser on Wednesday...

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Sorry U fans but he was never going to play U over Q.

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Sorry U fans but he was never going to play U over Q.
Gee, thanks for that newsflash.

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Done deal
MacKinnon to Moose and to play with home town team

http://en.lhjmq.qc.ca/article/nathan...seheads/101075

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Sorry U fans but he was never going to play U over Q.
imho, equal leagues strength wise... but more prestige in Q and he's a Canadian and there are probably more scouts, the league is better organized... pretty understandable and logical decision.

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08-27-2011, 03:47 AM
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imho, equal leagues strength wise... but more prestige in Q and he's a Canadian and there are probably more scouts, the league is better organized... pretty understandable and logical decision.
kk, umm thats not accurate, Q is better by far, better highend and low end talent, umm mor top tier talent, just all around better.

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Hes probably doing like what all kids in Juniors do. They will travel around and skate with as many top of the line teams as they can before their team has a camp. Here in Bismarck we had several kids from other states, universities and leagues skating with out junior team. Its just to get an early workout most coaches are cool with it cause it brings in some other players that the returning players are not used to working with.

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kk, umm thats not accurate, Q is better by far, better highend and low end talent, umm mor top tier talent, just all around better.
not really. the USHL and the Q are pretty on par with one another. you must not pay attention to the USHL as to the talent that does go through there each and every year. The problem with the USHL is that it isnt the same model as the CHL, players go to the USHL for a few years to then go to NCAA or the CHL...it really isnt apples vs apples when comparing the two leagues.

the USHL is a very talented league, and I would say the overall talent and depth is better then the Q. The highend talent is better in the Q then the USHL, but outside of that it is much much closer then you want to admit.

there are more talented kids from all over the place each year playing in the USHL, and it is only getting better ; Matheson and Girgensens to name a few.

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not really. the USHL and the Q are pretty on par with one another. you must not pay attention to the USHL as to the talent that does go through there each and every year. The problem with the USHL is that it isnt the same model as the CHL, players go to the USHL for a few years to then go to NCAA or the CHL...it really isnt apples vs apples when comparing the two leagues.

the USHL is a very talented league, and I would say the overall talent and depth is better then the Q. The highend talent is better in the Q then the USHL, but outside of that it is much much closer then you want to admit.

there are more talented kids from all over the place each year playing in the USHL, and it is only getting better ; Matheson and Girgensens to name a few.
Erne,Drouin,Duclair,Mackinnon,Shea too name a few, lets pit the Sea Dogs vs the The Fighting Saints, you would get crushed if you said that about the OHL. Last I heard the memorial cup resides in the Q. The tides turning back twords the Q. Theres few Q teams that would struggle against USHL teams.

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kk, umm thats not accurate, Q is better by far, better highend and low end talent, umm mor top tier talent, just all around better.
How many Q drafted this past June versus USHL?

You do get hit in the USHL, you know...

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Erne,Drouin,Duclair,Mackinnon,Shea too name a few, lets pit the Sea Dogs vs the The Fighting Saints, you would get crushed if you said that about the OHL. Last I heard the memorial cup resides in the Q. The tides turning back twords the Q. Theres few Q teams that would struggle against USHL teams.
How far ahead of the pack did that team finish?


Last year, Adam Erne, whom I believe to be a superior player in his age group, had 18pts and was -18 on a team that a) he couldn't crack the second line on and b) which finished far out of the money.

The comparisons are somewhat pointless though. The USHL is an older league than both the O and the Q. If a player hasn't cracked the lineup by age 17 in Major Junior than he's "suspect". In the USHL, he's the "future".

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How far ahead of the pack did that team finish?


Last year, Adam Erne, whom I believe to be a superior player in his age group, had 18pts and was -18 on a team that a) he couldn't crack the second line on and b) which finished far out of the money.

The comparisons are somewhat pointless though. The USHL is an older league than both the O and the Q. If a player hasn't cracked the lineup by age 17 in Major Junior than he's "suspect". In the USHL, he's the "future".
That's not really fair at all...Erne was FIFTEEN last year and Indiana had the top line in the league, so his hopes of cracking the top six as a fifteen year old are practically nil. 18 pts in 45 games as a fifteen year old is pretty damn impressive, man. One can say a guy like Ambroz was a more impressive rookie, but he was also a lot bigger than Erne. If you project him out to a full season, it's 24 points. That's not bad at all playing in a league as guys who are sometimes five years older than you and considered the best of the US crop.

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That's not really fair at all...Erne was FIFTEEN last year and Indiana had the top line in the league, so his hopes of cracking the top six as a fifteen year old are practically nil. 18 pts in 45 games as a fifteen year old is pretty damn impressive, man. One can say a guy like Ambroz was a more impressive rookie, but he was also a lot bigger than Erne. If you project him out to a full season, it's 24 points. That's not bad at all playing in a league as guys who are sometimes five years older than you and considered the best of the US crop.
And he's 16 this year and will, be playing in, what you claim, is a league with even more talent than the one in which he played @ -18 and that most, if not all, Q teams would spank all USHL comers. You're also expecting hbim to be a star in this league.

This is not an knock on Erne at all. He's a premier player and probably a Top10 pick in 2013.

It's a knock on your statement.

The USHL isn't a knockover league compared to the CHL and the easy defeat of your "logic" proves it.


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And he's 16 this year and will, be playing in, what you claim, is a league with even more talent than the one in which he played @ -18 and that most, if not all, Q teams would spank all USHL comers. You're also expecting hbim to be a star in this league.

This is not an knock on Erne at all. He's a premier player and probably a Top10 pick in 2013.

It's a knock on your statement.

The USHL isn't a knockover league compared to the CHL and the easy defeat of your "logic" proves it.
I don't get where I ever commented elsewhere in this thread other than my one post...

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How many Q drafted this past June versus USHL?

You do get hit in the USHL, you know...
How many Q players have been drafted in the past 10 years ? How many for the U ?


You really want to go there ?
Ya right the USHL is better, how many scouts do you think believe that ? If all these NHL teams believed it then why would they push players twords the CHL.

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How many Q players have been drafted in the past 10 years ? How many for the U ?


You really want to go there ?
Ya right the USHL is better, how many scouts do you think believe that ? If all these NHL teams believed it then why would they push players twords the CHL.
How many NHL teams deliberately tell their prospects to play in the Q?

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How many NHL teams deliberately tell their prospects to play in the Q?
Quite a few.....

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I don't get where I ever commented elsewhere in this thread other than my one post...
Yes sorry...I lopped your post in with someone elses. I apologize.

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How many Q players have been drafted in the past 10 years ? How many for the U ?
USHL has had ~200 drafted in that period...averages out to about 20 a year.

Same as....?

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Ya right the USHL is better, how many scouts do you think believe that ? If all these NHL teams believed it then why would they push players twords the CHL.
Some NHL push and some do not. Some NHL teams prefer that some of their players go the NCAA route because they know that they come out older and stronger from a "free" farm system.

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