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09-03-2011, 03:12 PM
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Doughty definitely has more value than Duchene or Johnson, but in a package together, the plus on the Kings' side would be a LOT more than Stoll. I don't even think a package around them is logical at all. Now that Colorado has a #1 goalie, there aren't many proposals between the two teams that make sense.

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09-03-2011, 03:24 PM
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Weber, Chara, Listrom, Keith, Seabrook these are the first defenseman that came to my head and i think its safe to say their all better than doughty
wat Seabrook?

Weber
Keith
Suter
Pronger
Chara
Doughty
Lidstrom

are what most people would consider the top 7 (see poll on main board). had Doughty not had his down season last year he'd most certainly be coonsidered top 5.
I don't think it's an outrageous claim.


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I get that the Avs wouldn't do that. But Doughty is a top 5 d-man in the game. Is Duchene a top 5 forward or even center? Not even close.

All I'm saying is that's what it would probably take to get Doughty cause the Kings aren't looking for futures. It's not in the Avs best interest though.

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09-03-2011, 03:49 PM
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lol. see my post
Johnson has the potential to be just as good, if not better, than Doughty. Duchene has the potential to be a top 10 player in the league.

No way we do that one.

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09-03-2011, 03:56 PM
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Johnson has the potential to be just as good, if not better, than Doughty. Duchene has the potential to be a top 10 player in the league.

No way we do that one.
Duchene top 10 forward.

And just no about Doughty and Johnson. Definitely not better. wow

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09-03-2011, 03:59 PM
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Johnson has the potential to be just as good, if not better, than Doughty. Duchene has the potential to be a top 10 player in the league.

No way we do that one.
Blah blah potential. Well, right now, it's not even close when it comes to Doughty and Johnson. I doubt Erik is ever as good.

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09-03-2011, 04:02 PM
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No from both sides. This would be a step back for both teams.

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09-03-2011, 04:16 PM
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Kings fans: Doughty is the best player we've had since Dionne. His brief flashes of greatness put to shame the rookie years of Erik Johnson and Zach Bogosian and there's no way he falls backward. He would require two of the top 20 highest potential young players in the league.

Avs fans: We'll trade a quantity of medium-blue chip level prospects and a center that, as a fan base, we feel like we can lose. The Kings would accept the deal because nothing screams "we need center depth" like a 1-2-3 of Kopitar-Richards-Stoll.

Who's right? Neither fan base. Who's wrong? 19sens11 and johnnybuilt. There's NO GM in the league, not even Milbury would have made Duchene-Johnson trades for Doughty and Stoll. If that were proposed, it would be a landslide victory for the Kings.

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I wish Avs fans would stop making proposals for superstars here. It always ends up with Duchene and since that obviously is a no-go, why bother in the first place?

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09-03-2011, 04:23 PM
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Kings fans: Doughty is the best player we've had since Dionne. His brief flashes of greatness put to shame the rookie years of Erik Johnson and Zach Bogosian and there's no way he falls backward. He would require two of the top 20 highest potential young players in the league.

Avs fans: We'll trade a quantity of medium-blue chip level prospects and a center that, as a fan base, we feel like we can lose. The Kings would accept the deal because nothing screams "we need center depth" like a 1-2-3 of Kopitar-Richards-Stoll.

Who's right? Neither fan base. Who's wrong? 19sens11 and johnnybuilt. There's NO GM in the league, not even Milbury would have made Duchene-Johnson trades for Doughty and Stoll. If that were proposed, it would be a landslide victory for the Kings.
OMG for last time: Of course the Avs wouldn't trade Duchene+Johnson for Doughty.
What I said was: That's what it would take to get Doughty out of LA because

1-LA doesn't want futures. they want to win now
2-Colorado has no wingers of value who is good right now, thus it must be a center (closest is Hejduk but doesn't have many years left)
3-LA would need a replacement for Doughty (Johnson)

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OMG for last time: Of course the Avs wouldn't trade Duchene+Johnson for Doughty.
What I said was: That's what it would take to get Doughty out of LA because

1-LA doesn't want futures. they want to win now
2-Colorado has no wingers of value who is good right now, thus it must be a center (closest is Hejduk but doesn't have many years left)
3-LA would need a replacement for Doughty (Johnson)
That's not what it would take to get Doughty, it's what it would take to get Doughty + Williams + Stoll

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09-03-2011, 06:31 PM
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OMG for last time: Of course the Avs wouldn't trade Duchene+Johnson for Doughty.
What I said was: That's what it would take to get Doughty out of LA because

1-LA doesn't want futures. they want to win now
2-Colorado has no wingers of value who is good right now, thus it must be a center (closest is Hejduk but doesn't have many years left)
3-LA would need a replacement for Doughty (Johnson)
You can't claim that's what it would take to get Doughty out of LA when you're using another team's TWO franchise players to get him.

Ludicrous.

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09-03-2011, 06:33 PM
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Not that I want to trade Doughty, but I'm wondering what everyone's feelings are on the value of this trade:

Erik Johnson + Gabriel Landeskog

for

Drew Doughty

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09-03-2011, 06:58 PM
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Not that I want to trade Doughty, but I'm wondering what everyone's feelings are on the value of this trade:

Erik Johnson + Gabriel Landeskog

for

Drew Doughty
No from a Colorado POV. Colorado doesn't want Doughty, they have Johnson. If they want to trade up from Johnson, Landeskog is one of the last players they'd trade. We don't need a slightly better #1 dman at the expense of our newly drafted 2nd overall winger. We don't need or want to upgrade Johnson, he's played incredibly well for us. It's a complete non-starter.

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09-03-2011, 07:29 PM
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Not that I want to trade Doughty, but I'm wondering what everyone's feelings are on the value of this trade:

Erik Johnson + Gabriel Landeskog

for

Drew Doughty
Significantly closer.

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