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09-03-2011, 12:36 PM
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Not to be rude but speculations already happening so it may as well here as well.

I don't buy the accidential aphyxiation angle and I think its a well meaning attempt to make it look like it wasn't suicide.

A couple other points.

You can't always tell if someone is even profoundly depressive. Many people have an ability to persevere and mask this to the outside world. Husbands and Wives often don't even know if their partner is clinically depressed.

The comments about the person not being suicidal because "thats the funniest guy I know" as if humor runs counter to depression is wrong. Some of the funniest guys ARE clinical depressives and some have taken their lives. A lot of comedians are actually depressed individuals. Humor being a coping skill they quickly learned.

From Red Skelton to Jerry Lewis to Jim Carrey, Owen Wilson, Rodney Dangerfield, Ben Stiller, Robin Williams, Richard Pryor, Woody Allen, Conan O Brien, Johhny Carson, Mark Twain, Britney Spears..just to name a few.

Reads like a who's who of comedy.
One of these things is not like the others

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Autoerotic asphyxiation?
Yeah it happens, IIRC there was a movie awhile back "Rising Sun"? with Snipes and Connery, where a man accidentally killed a woman because of it. I even recall hearing about school kids playing "the choking game" (not quite the same obviously) and dying from it on Dateline or some such program. Not saying that fits the case here, if the police believes it to be suicide then so be it.

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09-03-2011, 12:41 PM
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Yeah it happens, IIRC there was a movie awhile back "Rising Sun"? with Snipes and Connery...
Based on the Michael Crichton book, yeah.

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Based on the Michael Crichton book, yeah.
I'm not into reading novels so I'll take your word for it. It was a decent movie though from what I recall.

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One of these things is not like the others
Oh, unintended comedy then?

sorry about the j/k around with that if anybody thinks this isn't time and place sensitive but yeah I threw that in for a laugh. good catch.


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Yeah it happens, IIRC there was a movie awhile back "Rising Sun"? with Snipes and Connery, where a man accidentally killed a woman because of it. I even recall hearing about school kids playing "the choking game" (not quite the same obviously) and dying from it on Dateline or some such program. Not saying that fits the case here, if the police believes it to be suicide then so be it.
On the linked article it just struck me that theres a want for suicide to not be applied as a label to this tragedy which I can certainly understand, and sympathize with.

Again condolences to all impacted by this tragedy.


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Autoerotic asphyxiation?
Its highly speculative. Not out of the question I guess but accidental death of that nature not being any less of a tragedy.

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like to add that before people lay the blame on fighting for the guys killing themselves

4 former MLB players have also killed themselves in the past 5 months with the last two being Flanningan and Hedaki

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like to add that before people lay the blame on fighting for the guys killing themselves

4 former MLB players have also killed themselves in the past 5 months with the last two being Flanningan and Hedaki
Interesting, and concussions are much fewer and far between in baseball.

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like to add that before people lay the blame on fighting for the guys killing themselves

4 former MLB players have also killed themselves in the past 5 months with the last two being Flanningan and Hedaki
Were they a specific role? You know, apart from being players on the field.

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Were they a specific role? You know, apart from being players on the field.
3 were pitchers and 1 was 2nd base

Flanningan the former jay did himself with a shotgun and I think the former yankee pitcher also used a gun


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sooooo.... autoerotic asphyxiation seemingly witnessed by PJ Stock at some point.....

or a man battling depression maybe tips a little too much one way and makes a very sad decision.....

I think I believe number 2.

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I just listened to Micheal Landsberg and his interview on TSN Radio today. He said Wade texted him after Rypien died and said he was on "happy pills" for the last little while and that he was suffering from depression. That kinda throws out the accidental suicide angle.

Seems he might have used humour as a coping method, like Replacement suggested. Very sad to hear.

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Interesting, and concussions are much fewer and far between in baseball.
One thing they do have in common with baseball players is the fact that they are competitive individuals who were playing sports at the highest level for 20-30 years. Then one day these individuals realize it is all over or will be over soon; the money (for most players), the camaraderie in the locker room, and the sense of purpose in life.

It can be a very difficult transition to make for people used to focused and structured lifestyles, and I am not surprised that numerous former athletes become depressed.

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