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09-05-2011, 12:51 PM
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Dmitri Kugryshev WSH

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Waivers: #capitals Dmitri Kugryshev 2nd round pick in 2008. This waiver is a 125$ to release him.

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09-05-2011, 01:04 PM
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Waivers: #capitals Dmitri Kugryshev 2nd round pick in 2008. This waiver is a 125$ to release him.
They get to waive him for only $125? seems cheap to me...

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Can I buy him personally ?? Loll

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09-05-2011, 01:17 PM
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Second Caps prospect being released outright this summer.

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Why? No interest in the NHL?

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whats the reasoning behind this

was he that bad

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Certainly skilled, but couldn't put up numbers in the AHL.

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Certainly skilled, but couldn't put up numbers in the AHL.
They quit on him after 1 bad year?

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They quit on him after 1 bad year?
200910 Quebec Remparts QMJHL 66gp 29g 58a 87p
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Sure does look like it, but maybe he has problems with the management.

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Second Caps prospect being released outright this summer.
Either they're picking kids with questionable character or management is tough on these kids, or both.

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He had signed in the KHL prior to the Caps releasing him; I think it was probably just the next step.

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He signed in the KHL for two years. Maybe they're seeing if someone wants to take a chance on him next year because unless he really improves, he won't crack a deep Caps system.

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The Russian Factor

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Right, because he had such a bright future over in NA and spurned it to run home. Either that or the guy just can't succeed in NA and took the best job offer he had.

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Right, because he had such a bright future over in NA and spurned it to run home. Either that or the guy just can't succeed in NA and took the best job offer he had.
That's what the Russia factor is my friend.

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Either they're picking kids with questionable character or management is tough on these kids, or both.
if it was management and the kid wanted out, you'd think a trade would be worked out. assuming other nhl teams saw anything in them. right?

outright cut means there was no interest. in the case of gustafsson, he quit playing hockey. injuries. this kid....the caps shopped him and no one else wanted him. he took the option to give the K a try.

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umm...was eric mestery russian? how about little gus?

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If I were Chiarelli, I'd sign him and then immediately tell him we'll loan him to his KHL team.

I don't believe that would count as a contract under the 50 limit and it would give a prospect a chance to grow and develop where he will be the most comfortable while giving the Bruins another potential asset.

If he never comes back over then who cares but it could be worth a shot for a player that has got some strong talent.

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So are these waivers for a mutual release? To my understanding that's what $125 waivers are, but I could be wrong. Either way, if he clears or he's claimed by someone else (very slim chance), he won't be Caps property anymore correct?

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09-05-2011, 05:31 PM
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If I were Chiarelli, I'd sign him and then immediately tell him we'll loan him to his KHL team.

I don't believe that would count as a contract under the 50 limit and it would give a prospect a chance to grow and develop where he will be the most comfortable while giving the Bruins another potential asset.

If he never comes back over then who cares but it could be worth a shot for a player that has got some strong talent.
I agree that makes alot of sense for several of the better GM's not just Chiarelli. I would like it if Detroit did that.

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09-05-2011, 06:50 PM
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So are these waivers for a mutual release? To my understanding that's what $125 waivers are, but I could be wrong. Either way, if he clears or he's claimed by someone else (very slim chance), he won't be Caps property anymore correct?
My understanding is that $125 is the cost for the claiming team (vs. thousands of dollars like other players I believe - kdb?) and these are unconditional waivers that permit buyouts and mutual releases (see: Gustafsson earlier this offseason and I think Matt Nickerson some years ago and Jon Sim last year, IIRC).

He won't be claimed of course, and once he clears he'll be a free agent - an autonomous player without restriction as some translators would suggest. I believe there's a clause somewhere that allows for mutual releases via this route and if not, I wonder if the Caps can claim on technicality that Kugryshev is in breach of contract and filed grounds for termination (even though there was an understanding between both parties).

There are plenty more here that are more well-versed in this than I am though, so corrections may be necessary.

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I agree that makes alot of sense for several of the better GM's not just Chiarelli. I would like it if Detroit did that.
I'm not sure if that's really in Kugryshev's best interest. Considering he probably could have had an NHL contract if he wants it (by staying with the Washington organization - I'm assuming this is mutual). What if he develops in Russia and wants to come over in a few years, he would be obligated to fulfill his entry level contract still...why should he subject himself to that? He could come over as an unrestricted free agent later, if necessary...

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That's what the Russia factor is my friend.
The Russian factor is a player choosing a KHL contract over an NHL/AHL contract. In this case, there was no NHL/AHL contract available. It's not like Kugryshev ditched the Bears to go play at home. This was something that judging by the circumstances, was mutually communicated and agreed upon. Mutual release of contract two days after he signs a KHL deal sounds to me like they told him he wasn't making the Bears and let him go get a deal before they waived him. He's not pulling a Radulov.

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