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09-07-2011, 11:45 AM
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Kronwall expectations

Leaf fan coming in peace. Just wondering, with Rafalski gone What are the expectations of Niklas Kronwall this year. I'm looking to pick him up in my hockey pool. As of right now I have narrowed my choice between one of Kronwall, Goligoski and Giordano. The league I'm in gives points for hits and blocked shots aswell as your standard points. Thanks in advance.

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I think if he doesn't score between 40-45pts this year it will be a disappointment.

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I think he'll easily be a top 10 fantasy d-man, possibly top 5.

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I'm expecting a pretty big season out of kronwall mainly with Rafalski leaving and his pay increase. I would definetly pick him up taking into account hits and blocked shots are in your league. Good luck

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He's coming off a career high with 11 goals and will definitely log plenty of PP time with Rafalski retiring. Double digit goals and 40-50 points seem like reasonable expectations.

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I basically just want him to stay healthy *knock on wood*

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He's coming off a career high with 11 goals and will definitely log plenty of PP time with Rafalski retiring. Double digit goals and 40-50 points seem like reasonable expectations.
I feel like he better get Rafi's spot on the first power play unit with the first string talent. I know having a right hand shot is a good option but I just think he should be on the first unit with the first unit talent.

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being on the pp with someone like holmstrom will give him more opportunities to sneak into the slot

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I feel like he better get Rafi's spot on the first power play unit with the first string talent. I know having a right hand shot is a good option but I just think he should be on the first unit with the first unit talent.
Yeah I know White has the right handed shot but it remains to be seen if they put him out there with Lids. I agree that it makes sense to start off with Lids and Kronner and if for some reason that doesn't work then you kick White up to the top PP unit.

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I think the Wings will play a lot of Ian White early. Once Kronwall signs, Kronwall will get his IT and start producing like crazy.

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I think he'll easily be a top 10 fantasy d-man, possibly top 5.
No doubt. He was a great contributor for me last year. If anything, his stock should spike with more responsibility going to him offensively.

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Between those three, take Kronwall!

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I would definetly pick him up taking into account hits and blocked shots are in your league. Good luck
Actually, Kronwall does not hit and block very much at regular season.

He somehow saves his body, because he has been injury prone earlier years. I think he has found the balance to keep the body helthier and that means less hitting.

But when he hits, it's the big hit, but statistically, he hits quite less.

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Actually, Kronwall does not hit and block very much at regular season.
He led the team in blocked shots last season.

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I think the Wings will play a lot of Ian White early. Once Kronwall signs, Kronwall will get his IT and start producing like crazy.
I can see how they would think that for the purposes of the salary cap but I think the more important issue is recovering the production of the now retired Rafalski. I feel like the Wings would rather count on Kronwall to lead that operation than Ian White, regardless of the contract negotiations. Production like Rafalski's seems to require a good and early start. Playing Ian White a lot early on is a plausible experiment but the Wings need to win and I'm sure they want to put their best foot forward since they seem to be big believers in the 20-25 games benchmark.

I believe Kronwall is the main guy for that issue and I think that if he stays healthy he'll step up because he senses that the team really needs him and it's a contract year for him. It'd definitely be a luxury if Ian White were to burst right out of the gate and potentially soften the hit Kronwall's future cap hit will cause but I think the biggest story this year in terms of the dmen is a promotion for Kronwall, especially with Lidstrom's retirement on the near horizon.

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He led the team in blocked shots last season.
Of NHL defencemen, Kronwall was 56th at the league with blocked shots and 61st with hits. Not very impressive. As I said, Kronner doesn't hit very much at regular season.

I think Commodore will be the hit/block leader at next season and White is also good blocking shots (more than Kronwall last year). And there's also Stuart who's the current hit leader on defence. Would have been the block leader also, without the injury shortened season.

But as a point producer + hitter + blocker, Kronwall could be great package at fantasy leagues. He will not be hitting or blocking machine, that's more hype than actually shows in stats. He will be more a point producer, because the loss of Rafalski.

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I can see how they would think that for the purposes of the salary cap but I think the more important issue is recovering the production of the now retired Rafalski. I feel like the Wings would rather count on Kronwall to lead that operation than Ian White, regardless of the contract negotiations. Production like Rafalski's seems to require a good and early start. Playing Ian White a lot early on is a plausible experiment but the Wings need to win and I'm sure they want to put their best foot forward since they seem to be big believers in the 20-25 games benchmark.

I believe Kronwall is the main guy for that issue and I think that if he stays healthy he'll step up because he senses that the team really needs him and it's a contract year for him. It'd definitely be a luxury if Ian White were to burst right out of the gate and potentially soften the hit Kronwall's future cap hit will cause but I think the biggest story this year in terms of the dmen is a promotion for Kronwall, especially with Lidstrom's retirement on the near horizon.
Yeah I pretty much agree with this. I think you keep a top pairing at ES of Lids and Stuart and allow Lids to do his thing. Second pairing is probably Kronner and either E or Commodore. I can see White on the third pairing but of course the defensive pairings will get alternated a bit.

For the PP pairings it makes sense to get Lids and Kronner out there together. The only thing in White's favor is the right handed shot. Let's not forget Rafi was a very gifted offensive defenseman before injuries derailed him. I am not sure White is quite near that level of production but we'll see how he does on a team like Detroit. He had solid point production for the Sharks during the playoffs.

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