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09-12-2011, 01:39 AM
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Bylsma's preferred line combos

This was mentioned up in the cap/lineup thread, but seeing as how this comes straight from Disco instead of being just speculation, it makes sense to break off into a new thread.

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Ideally, Bylsma projects his top three forward lines this way:

Kunitz-Crosby-Neal
Sullivan-Malkin-Kennedy
Cooke-Staal-Dupuis

Kennedy and Dupuis could swap spots at times.

He sees Arron Asham and Craig Adams on the wings of the fourth line, with Mark Letestu, Dustin Jeffrey, Richard Park, Joe Vitale and Jason Williams competing to center it, while Eric Tangradi, Steve MacIntyre and Nick Johnson also contend for spots on the opening-night roster, which will have from 20-23 men.
www.post-gazette.com/pg/11255/1174055-61-0.stm

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Interesting that Bylsma plans to use Neal on the right side. With his shot, it could be a good idea... if Sid is ready to start to season that is!

But honestly, I'd love to see Neal on Geno's right wing.

Kunitz - Crosby - Dupuis
Sullivan - Malkin - Neal
Cooke - Staal - Kennedy

I think this is the best top 9 we can ice. We will have some cap room at the deadline to add a RW on line 1 and drop Dupuis to line four for the playoffs. Would be the best cast scenario IMO.

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TK in the top six and Dupuis in the bottom six?

Finally...

BTW, that's not a dig towards Dupuis. I like Dupuis. He's a good hockey player and a good teammate to boot...for a bottom six player. I'm glad he re-signed.

But yeah, I can live with those lines.

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09-12-2011, 02:14 AM
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Malkin gets screwed in that line-up, lol. 2 left wingers, top 6 left wingers and Bylsma throws them both with Sid.

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So as per Bylsma's preferred lineup Staalkin is done?

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Interested to see if Neal can covert to RW, Doesn't Sid always say he likes a RH on his line?

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Honestly I don't get why he would break up Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis seeing how Crosby dominated the NHL on that line.. why not let Geno (who struggled) finally have a couple of skilled wingers to help him get back to form?

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Honestly I don't get why he would break up Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis seeing how Crosby dominated the NHL on that line.. why not let Geno (who struggled) finally have a couple of skilled wingers to help him get back to form?
So Sullivan and Kennedy aren't skilled? And Dupuis has no place in the top 6.

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So Sullivan and Kennedy aren't skilled? And Dupuis has no place in the top 6.
Sure Sullivan is skilled, IF he stays healthy. Kennedy is a grinder, I just don't see him meshing well with Geno and would rather "spread the wealth" (with Neal opening up space for Geno) than stack the first line.

Dupuis does what he does well. That said, you're right he shouldn't have a place in the top 6, but when someone goes down with injury he sure as heck will be the first to fill in.

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I really hope Malkin signs with another team if his contract runs out. The Pens are my favourite team, but it is absolutely pathetic how Malkins talent gets wasted with all those 3rd/4th liners or some washed up scoring winger. He needs some proven top6 talent to play with.
He hase been treated second fiddle since he joined the pens. Crosby always gets the best wingers and Malkin is only alowed to play with them if Sid is injured again or when he fails to get get any kind of decent production out of his wingers(see Malone and Sykora).

But knowing this board, Kennedy and Sullivan will suddenly become some uber skilled top6 wingers. It would be hilarious to see the reactions if Malkin would get Kunitz and Neal. Kennedy and Sullivan wouldn't be good enough any more.

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Well, better than it has been in a long time, but I admit I still see this as an example that Bylsma fundamentally doesn't get what it means to help Geno. Not that those guys aren't individually better than what he is used to, but if giving him some physical presence on his line, some net chrashing, some down low support and perhaps some face-off backup, was deemed desirable (it should, IMO) we'd be hard pressed to see where that is. Anyway... Bylsma won the Adams and I am a management consultant in China. One would hope he knows better. Nice to see Dupuis outside the top6, but as said before, I think we have better fits for Staal/Cooke. Fair enough, those guys have to prove that they are better options.

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Why does Sid get the only two physical wingers, when everyone saw what happenend when Malone was able to create some space for Geno. Sullivan and Kennedy will get pushed around and the other team can focus on Malkin, just like it was with Talbot and Fedotenko for most of the time.

Kunitz-Crosby-Sullivan/Kennedy
Neal-Malkin-Kennedy/Sullivan

That would make much more sense, you would have spread speed,physicality and scoring much better. With the Bylsma lines Geno is left with some weak/fast wingers who have shady goal scoring abilities.

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Kunitz-Crosby-Kennedy
Neal-Malkin-Kennedy
Cooke-Staal-Dupuis

That's what I'd like to see. But there is probably a reason I'm not a NHL head coach.

Is it opening night yet?

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I amnot reading too much into this right now. Line mate changes are rather frequent in the NHL. If it is not working, Bylsma will make appropraite changes based upon what talent he has available. Besides, Crosby will not be ready to start the season so if Malkin and Neal get some chemistry going, I doubt that he would break that up just to put Neal with Crosby. Much ado about nothing IMO.

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Not real encouraged with Crosby being out most likely. Would have liked too see plan B just in case.

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Kunitz-Crosby-Kennedy
Neal-Malkin-Kennedy
Cooke-Staal-Dupuis

That's what I'd like to see. But there is probably a reason I'm not a NHL head coach.

Is it opening night yet?
Lol You have 2 Kennedys dude ^


Kunitz - Crosby - Dupuis
Sullivan - Malkin - Neal
Cooke - Staal - TK
Adams - ??? - Asham

Thats a hell of a competition for 4th line center! Can we all agree its most likely down to Letestu or Jeffery? Or maybe Park...

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Cool stuff. Too bad these won't be the lines to start the season.

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Call me crazy, but I'd like to see:

Call me crazy, but I'd like to see:

Kunitz-Crosby-Asham
Neal-Malkin-Sullivan
Cooke-Staal-Kennedy
Jeffrey-Letestu-Dupuis
Tangradi-Williams-Adams

4th & 5th line players are interchangeable by position.

I think Asham could pot 25+ with Sid. I also like the idea of having some muscle on Sid's line upon his return... just to keep the bad guys away. If after 15 games, we can tell Asham doesn't fit up there, then we move him and get Kennedy up there.

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Everyone pissed and moaned about Dupuis on the top line last year now some of you can't wait to see him there again? Have you totally lost your minds?!

The should use the time while Sid is out to see how Neal and Sully play with Geno, if it doesn't work switch it up when Sid is back but by no means should Dupuis be on the 1st or 2nd line over TK.

I am still holding out for:

Kunitz-Crosby-Neal
Sully-Staal-Malkin
Cook-Jeffery/Test tube-TK
Adams-Jeffery/Test tube-Asham

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If Malkin is playing well, Sullivan and Kennedy is just fine. If he's 100% healthy, no more excuses.

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Sometimes I really don't get Dan Bylsma.

Neal-Crosby-Kunitz would be justifiable if he put Malkin with Staal, but not with Sullivan and Kennedy. Malkin needs that big body presence.

And our recent creative RH RW acquisition to play the point instead of the left side?

Zuh?

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This deadline...winger for Geno.

That 1st line is a whole lotta filth though. Can't wait to see it.

I also think we're bound to lose some good players this season for nothing.

I'd also rather see Sullivan on the left wall v. the left point.

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Bylsma really doesn't get it. Speedy guy = Crosby linemate. Sneaky sniper = Malkin linemate. Power forward = Malkin linemate. And he still thinks Dupuis could play with Malkin??? Hasn't he seen that enough times to know it doesn't work???

As for the guy who thinks Asham should play with Crosby, Asham is slow as hell. He's the exact kind of player who should never play with Crosby. If injuries force him into the top 6, they'd be better off putting him on Malkin's line.

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Bylsma you crazy old man, I don't care how many times he says he isn't and that the doctors say he'll make a full recovery. Crosby is retiring.

With that said. Don't get to bent out of shape over some hypothetical lineup people. There'll be plenty of experimentation and lineup juggling during and after training camp that you can shake a stick at.

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Would be nice for Tangradi to play his way into the top 9 and replace Dupuis. That means (when healthy) Dupuis bumped down to the 4th line, and MacIntyre taking up 1 spot, there'd only be 2 spots on the roster left for: Letestu, Jeffrey, Adams, Asham, Williams, Johnson, Vitale, etc.

Kunitz-Crosby-Neal
Tangradi-Malkin-SUllivan
Cooke-Staal-Kennedy
Dupuis-Letestu/Jeffrey-Adams/Asham
Big Mac

^what I prefer, if Tangradi forces himself onto the roster

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