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09-12-2011, 04:16 PM
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Well, sure, he got that out of your post because it's in your post . You're bad at "alluding", because somewhere along the line, while "alluding" to Gustavsson, you specifically "denoted" Reimer and Gustavsson.

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That was you, I believe.



So, it's possible to assess the quality of the players in your system prior to camp and decide whether or not you have presumed top players at all positions? There's a method for this? And when Burke says he's got guys set into roster spots, but they're going to see what happens (i.e. evaluate) do you suppose he meant something else other than pencilling his best guys in and then deciding whether or not they've been outplayed in camp - just as you'd like? Are you having the same trouble with the language there as you seem to with "allude"?

Man, I'd heard big things about you.
Geez...I never know what to make of your posts...your handle is Courage, your avatar is a clown who certainly cannot be taken seriously and your posts for the most part are an attempt to be humorous, witty and at times condascending...

Your last point is well......

maybe you shouldn't bring the size of my manhood into this topic of discussion.

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Brunnstrom, and Voros were on one way contracts, and the Marlies didn't make playoffs, not very cost efficient moves.
Voros was simply a tough game for the Marlies after the Rosehill call up and the Brunnstrom trade bought the Leafs an extra contract slot this year, for spending an extra $600k last year in the minors. Who cares about the cost, except maybe MLSE and their bottom line?

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09-12-2011, 04:19 PM
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Brunnstrom, and Voros were on one way contracts, and the Marlies didn't make playoffs, not very cost efficient moves.
What was the cost of Voros and Brunnstrom?

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A billion dollars!

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What was the cost of Voros and Brunnstrom?
Who cares? More like what was the point of Voros and Brunnstrom? Another "truculent" knuckle scraping goon and a free wallet devoid of any cash....I think the Leafs have an abundance of these in the system....making above mentioned players redundant.

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09-12-2011, 04:26 PM
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That's a bit like arguing over the point of hiring some extra night cleaning staff.

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Who cares? More like what was the point of Voros and Brunnstrom? Another "truculent" knuckle scraping goon and a free wallet devoid of any cash....I think the Leafs have an abundance of these in the system....making above mentioned players redundant.
An extra contract slot on the 50 man reserve list this year. That was the point.

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09-12-2011, 04:30 PM
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An extra contract slot on the 50 man reserve list this year. That was the point.
Wow, it's like the wiring under the board, brah!

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Who cares? More like what was the point of Voros and Brunnstrom? Another "truculent" knuckle scraping goon and a free wallet devoid of any cash....I think the Leafs have an abundance of these in the system....making above mentioned players redundant.
Really? You do realize that we basically ravaged the Marlies last year right? We acquired them because we needed depth.

Burke does actually have more than one team's roster to fill, FYI.

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An extra contract slot on the 50 man reserve list this year. That was the point.
And this matters why?

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Who cares? More like what was the point of Voros and Brunnstrom? Another "truculent" knuckle scraping goon and a free wallet devoid of any cash....I think the Leafs have an abundance of these in the system....making above mentioned players redundant.
His words, not mine. I just wanted to know what he meant.

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Who cares? More like what was the point of Voros and Brunnstrom? Another "truculent" knuckle scraping goon and a free wallet devoid of any cash....I think the Leafs have an abundance of these in the system....making above mentioned players redundant.
The fact that you're complaining about bringing in a decent but mostly irrelevant top six AHL player and a goon to play on the AHL team, makes it quite clear that you're just looking for things to complain about, really. There's no reason whatsoever to be upset about this.

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09-12-2011, 05:18 PM
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And this matters why?
Because you aren't allowed to have more than 50 contracts? We would have been at 49 contracts without the trade this year. I find it hard to believe someone can think that having 1 contract slot is better than having 2 slots. Seeing as it can affect the ability to make moves during the season and sign college FAs.

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Because you aren't allowed to have more than 50 contracts? We would have been at 49 contracts without the trade this year. I find it hard to believe someone can think that having 1 contract slot is better than having 2 slots. Seeing as it can affect the ability to make moves during the season and sign college FAs.
Yeah, it was all pretty simple: Dallas got Brunnstrom's expensive contract off the books to save money and in return took on Stefanovich's dead-end contract for an extra year while he'll likely plays in the KHL. Meanwhile Burke gets himself another contract slot. Easy peasy...small deal, but everyone wins.

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Because you aren't allowed to have more than 50 contracts? We would have been at 49 contracts without the trade this year. I find it hard to believe someone can think that having 1 contract slot is better than having 2 slots. Seeing as it can affect the ability to make moves during the season and sign college FAs.
It doesn't matter unless it's actually preventing something important from happening. If we were able to sign Brad Richards, but already had 50 contracts filled, then Dale Mitchell can be let go. Not a big deal.

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It doesn't matter unless it's actually preventing something important from happening. If we were able to sign Brad Richards, but already had 50 contracts filled, then Dale Mitchell can be let go. Not a big deal.
"Let go" doesn't happen anymore. Any player with a contract remains on the books until traded or bought out or contract expires. So opening up contract spots isn't as easy as it once was unless you can find a team who needs some extra bodies. And seeing how Mitchell is injured he couldn't be bought out to begin with.

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It doesn't matter unless it's actually preventing something important from happening. If we were able to sign Brad Richards, but already had 50 contracts filled, then Dale Mitchell can be let go. Not a big deal.
Surely you can see the value in having flexibility? Stefanovich's contract was simply dead weight, but his total AHL salary for the remainder of last season and this one (65K/@) is less than the 675K/@ Dallas was paying Brunnstrom on a one way contract last season. Burke does Joe N. a solid, earns a little good will, gets himself roster flexibility going forward. What's so hard to comprehend? Did Burke borrow the four hundred grand to pay Brunnstrom from you? Had Brunnstrom put on a better showing, then perhaps Burke extends him a contract offer this season. Otherwise, he's got room to sign someone he might actually get some use out of going forward -- like Heard -- should they show themselves worthy, or make a two-for-one swap (remember Franson/Lombardi for Ledba?). Pretty basic stuff all the way around, really.


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It doesn't matter unless it's actually preventing something important from happening. If we were able to sign Brad Richards, but already had 50 contracts filled, then Dale Mitchell can be let go. Not a big deal.
If you back yourself into a corner and need to make a quick move to open a contract spot or cap space, it isn't going to be cheap for another GM to take a player off your hands. I'd rather have Burke do it before we are stuck paying a premium to get a rid of a contract.

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I could think of about 81 things that are way funner to argue about than this dribble, while we have the misfits online.

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I could think of about 81 things that are way funner to argue about than this dribble, while we have the misfits online.
No, it is way funner to talk about dribble.

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No, it is way funner to talk about dribble.
For the last time, man, I don't want to talk shop with you any more.

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For the last time, man, I don't want to talk shop with you any more.
I thought we were talking about basketball. Not shop class.

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