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09-15-2011, 02:10 PM
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Of course he has things to work on. What 22 year old defenseman coming out of College Hockey doesn't?
Ones who are much better than "meh."

Kessel has a lot to do. I'm not saying he can't get there, but it's a long road to the NHL for him if he can make it.

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Ones who are much better than "meh."

Kessel has a lot to do. I'm not saying he can't get there, but it's a long road to the NHL for him if he can make it.
All defenseman coming out of that level have a lot to work on. Some are closer to the NHL then others. I still want to know how much you've seen him play, and what makes him a "meh" player.

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Does anyone know how he became an UFA? Theoretically the Isles would own his rights for another year.

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Does anyone know how he became an UFA? Theoretically the Isles would own his rights for another year.
Here is what BSH said about it:

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He opted to leave college after his junior year. If he stayed all four years at UNH, he would have been property of the Islanders until August 15 of next summer. But since he left early, that all changes. College players that fail to finish all four years of school become unrestricted free agents on June 1 of the fourth year following their draft year. If you've been following along, that means that Kessel used a loophole in the CBA, left college early, and became a free agent on June 1, 2011. Bye bye, Islanders.
http://www.broadstreethockey.com/201...yers#storyjump

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You're right, thanks. ...

According to 8.9.c.II of the CBA he became an UFA June 1st of this year, four years after his Draft because he left college early.

(Luukko and Parks could do that as well, 2014)

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You said that his being a converted defenseman from a forward tells a lot. It really doesn't. There are misses all over the place in talent evaluations. From 1st round picks on down. A players style of play can change. So your point that he's converted to a D man, really doesn't tell you anything. Why would the Flyers give a "meh" player the last contract spot they have currently? Obviously there's something there they like in his potential.

You still haven't given anything concrete to point out how he's a "meh" player.
Bartulis converted from a forward to a Dman when he was older too, IIRC.

You're right, of course. Maybe Holmgren didn't see him in person, so what? The Flyers' scouts who were giving very heavy scrutiny to JVR at UNH will have seen him and kept a book on him.

And they liked what they saw at Rookie Orientation in July, or they would not have signed him.

We'll see if he can develop into an NHL player over the next couple years.

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goal and an assist tonight, looked composed and a smooth skater. He is in the AHL this year, could push for a spot next year.

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Question, using simple common sense, wouldn't you have to know how much I have seen him play, in order for you to know that you've seen him play more than I have?

Of course he has things to work on. What 22 year old defenseman coming out of College Hockey doesn't? .
Unless you live around this area, I am going to go out on a limb and say I have seen him play live more then you have. I dont know where you live, nor do I care. just sayin.

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Its hard as **** for a forward to convert play d. Also most d men get better with age.

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Its hard as **** for a forward to convert play d. Also most d men get better with age.
Sami Kapanen destroyed those odds

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Kessel pretty much bought himself a roster spot in the A with his performance tonight?

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Kessel pretty much bought himself a roster spot in the A with his performance tonight?
That or the 925k the flyers will be paying him

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Do you have the particulars as to why he didn't sign with the Islanders?
If I had to take a guess from Kessel's POV. The Islanders have De Haan, Donovan and Ness all signed to play their first season in Bridgeport this year. Add to that Wishart is sort of the first callup/7th defenseman and Mark Katic(who recently got injured) are sort of higher on the depth chart Kessel saw the writing on the wall and used a loophole to get himself in a better position.

As an Islanders fan I would much rather of signed Kessel then Ness(who is way to small and doesn't put up enough points despite being an "offensive" defenseman) but I can't blame him for doing what he did. He probably will get more attention in Philly. The Islanders lost another mid tier prospect(Jason Gregoire) to Winnipeg this summer under similar circumstances. I think it's just a case of having an abundance of picks in a short amount of time, that some players will slip through the cracks.

From an Islanders POV, I think they have so many rookies coming to Bridgeport this year they wanted to keep Kessel in college one more year so they can sort out who fits where. I am guessing if the Islanders really didn't have much prospect depth at defense they would have made a hard play to sign him sooner.


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Well this is interesting:

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Blake Kessel made a nice little semi-debut tonight, a day after getting a contract from the team. He scored a goal, and you can tell he likes jumping up into the play offensively. We cited Hockey's Future in our story yesterday, saying that he switched from forward to defense with Waterloo in his USHL days, but he told me after the game that he switched to defense in his pee wee days. So there's that.
http://www.broadstreethockey.com/201...game#storyjump

Glad hf information is correct...

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Well this is interesting:

http://www.broadstreethockey.com/201...game#storyjump

Glad hf information is correct...
Don't look at me. That's not mine.

I'm going to look up who wrote it and find out why they said that.

Perhaps there was some kind of disconnect in an interview or something.

Doubt they would just make something like that up without having somewhere to draw from.

It's also possible that they used him all-around the lineup in the USHL. I've been told before that it's fairly common.

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http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/blake_kessel

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Kessel likes to join the offensive rush with his speed and skill and can act as a fourth forward on the ice. He was converted to defense by Waterloo coach Bob Suter.
With the inclusion of the name of the head coach, I'm fairly skeptical of it being a lie.

I'm sure there's just a misunderstanding somewhere because people don't use facts like that when they're making something up. Also, there's no real motive or reason to lie. Why just make up the idea that he was a converted forward? People are that creative now?


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