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Who will be our 4th line Center?

View Poll Results: 4th line center for playoff push and beyond?
David Desharnais 14 12.61%
Lars Eller 4 3.60%
Andreas Engqvist 55 49.55%
Ryan White 28 25.23%
Someone other, called up from Hamilton 1 0.90%
Someone other, acquired in a deal or through free agency 9 8.11%
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09-15-2011, 11:18 PM
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Who will be our 4th line Center?

This is one of the questions I'm curious to see answered.

Who will be our 4th line center for our playoff push and into the postseason more specifically?

My personal hope is Ryan White emerges as quality 4th line center. It's the position he played growing up, and it would help fill a huge organizational need long term.


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09-16-2011, 07:30 AM
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Andreas Engqvist, the type of player Martin loves. Would not be surprised if he makes the team unless Gauthier signs a veteran to a tryout

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I think it will be Engqvist. Eller will center the 3rd line and I don't see Desharnais as a 4th line center in the NHL. White I think they would prefer to play on the wing and in the corners crashing and banging.

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Am I seriously the first person who voted for Desharnais... which is the most likely candidate at this point?

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Am I seriously the first person who voted for Desharnais... which is the most likely candidate at this point?
I think The 3rd line will consist of Eller surrounded by DD and Kostitsyn, which is why DD won't be the 4th line center.

I voted for Engqvist and I really hope it's him. I think bottom line duties will be split amongst Moen, Darche, Engqvist and White. If there's an injury we might see some movement but I'd be really happy to see our forward lineup as such.

Cammalleri - Plekanec - Cole
Gionta - Gomez - Pacioretty
Desharnais - Eller - Kostitsyn
Moen - Engqvist - Darche/White

We've got 3 lines that can score goals, and a 4th line that can hit and isn't afraid to drive the net. I also really hope that Engqvist can be a strong PK guy to take some time away from Plek so that he can focus more on scoring. I think we'll always be sending Plekanec out on the 5-3 situation, but if we can cut down the time he spends on 5-4 we'll be getting a lot more out of him production-wise.

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09-16-2011, 08:41 AM
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If Eller's out at the start of the season then Enqvist gets it almost automatically. If everyone's healthy, it all depends on whether DD plays center or wing. He's definitely ahead of Enqvist on the org depth chart, his one-way contract makes that clear.

Be interesting to see. With AK, Eller and DD all likely out of the top 6, JM has more offensive depth than in the recent past, and with it quite a bit of flexibility in how he uses his bottom six. He can put out those three as a line together, or he could use Moen and/or Darche on the third line. I expect to see a lot of mix-and-matching in the bottom 6, personally.

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I voted Engqvist because he can kill penalties and he is pretty much our only right-handed center. My only concerns is his capacity to win face-offs. I think his percentage was like 32% last year in the NHL.
I would have add Trotter to this pool however, he might surprise!

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09-16-2011, 11:47 AM
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dd unless engqvist proves at camp he can do the job or goatse signs a free agent center

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White was a natural center in Junior, and if you take a look at the lineup for the camp, Cammy - pleks - Cole are on team A, Patches - gomez - gio are on team B, DD - Eller -kostitsyn and Moen - White - Darche are on team C. I think These are the Lines JM wants to test out. If White can win some faceoffs, I think it will be him over Engqvist, who is also on Team C

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4th line = Darche - White - Moen

Enqvist and Bluden will be call up's or the 13th forward

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Desharnais !

I would like to see Eller with Moen and Kostitsyn on the 3rd. They do pretty well together last year.

So my guess for the 4th line (without injury) is Desharnais with White at RW and Darche on left.

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Desharnais' abilities are completely wasted on the 4th line. He's one of the most talented and smartest guys on the roster. You need to surround him with offensively talented players in order to utilize him properly.

I think a more like scenario for him would be to play on a 3rd line and if he happens to be playing with eller, then daisy can move to the wing but also take draws.

4th line C duties is probably between white and engqvist

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Engqvist

but i if we sign someone it's madden

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Why oh why did we let go Halpy? ... The guy was perfect for that role.

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Why oh why did we let go Halpy? ... The guy was perfect for that role.
It's Montréal.

Usually when we acquire good role players we either trade them for crap role players, picks, or let them walk.


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Why oh why did we let go Halpy? ... The guy was perfect for that role.
Aging quickly and has been unable to stay healthy since the lockout. It's better to give Enqvist a shot so he doesn't leave for Sweden. Plus he's 6'4. Size!

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Aging quickly and has been unable to stay healthy since the lockout. It's better to give Enqvist a shot so he doesn't leave for Sweden. Plus he's 6'4. Size!
Yea I like Engqvist and all, but he's not guaranteed that spot. I'd rather have Halpern who can also play wing if injuries hit along with calling up Engs for 20 or so games.

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Yea I like Engqvist and all, but he's not guaranteed that spot. I'd rather have Halpern who can also play wing if injuries hit along with calling up Engs for 20 or so games.
If we kept Halpern there would be no point in having him on the wing. His faceoff percent was 57 which, I believe was 6 percent higher than anyone else's on the team. However, Martin didn't give a **** and played him on he wing from time to time.

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If we kept Halpern there would be no point in having him on the wing. His faceoff percent was 57 which, I believe was 6 percent higher than anyone else's on the team. However, Martin didn't give a **** and played him on he wing from time to time.

He was still taking the important faceoffs..

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I don't say it was a mistake to trade him, but I think that Ben Maxwell would have been a good fit on the roster this year. I prefer him to Engqvist...

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Maxwell is nothing more than an AHL bound player. He was a bust pure and simple.

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Akost-Eller-Desharnais
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White is crap at faceoffs. 40% last year. We have no penalty killing unit after Plek-Moen right now with Halpern and Pyatt gone. Don't really want to see Gionta-Gomez on the PK together. These are the reasons Engqvist makes sense.

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White is crap at faceoffs. 40% last year. We have no penalty killing unit after Plek-Moen right now with Halpern and Pyatt gone. Don't really want to see Gionta-Gomez on the PK together. These are the reasons Engqvist makes sense.
Engqvist is worse at faceoffs than White.

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