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Where would you rank John Tortorella

View Poll Results: Where does Torts rank?
Top 3 9 6.87%
3-5 29 22.14%
5-10 69 52.67%
10-20 22 16.79%
20-30 2 1.53%
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09-10-2011, 01:22 PM
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He is better than any coach on the list who has yet to win a Stanley Cup. Those guys never reached their goal.
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i think Trotz is a better coach than Torts... Ruff, as well.


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09-10-2011, 05:31 PM
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He's about 4-5.

The work he has done with our youth has been just remarkable.
Amen! He certainly has as opposed to past regimes who either misused, underused or didn't play our young players at all and yo yo'd them between the rangers and hartford thereby destroying their confidence. Prime examples of this was the incompetent handling of malhotra and lundmark.

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09-17-2011, 06:45 PM
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Generously went with the second ranking.
On the plus side, he gets a lot out of the players.
On the negative side, he rides them very hard phyiscally (e.g., would try to give first pair D 2min less avg per game).

I that regard reminds me of Billy Martin managing the A's before he came to the Yankees. Great starting rotation, and several had injury problems thereafter.

The overall grade is mixed but favorable.

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I don't mean to be overly harsh, but I think most coaches, etc in most sports are overrated. They win because they have the best (proverbial) horses so to speak,

The one exception to the rule was the late greate Bill Walsh of the football 49ers.
For example, he knew exactly when to trade for a Garrison Hearst, and when to dump him and still get decent value in draft picks or trade.

have I missed something?
Any Ranger execs that good?
Any hockey execs that good?
What do you think....

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5-10. He did a lot with a little last year. But to be ranked higher you have to win, no matter what your team is.

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09-18-2011, 01:26 AM
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Top 10... Somewhere behind Ruff, Babcock, and Trotz

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Being with this organization is great. You can accomplish absolutely nothing with the team and still be a top 5 coach

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09-18-2011, 03:58 AM
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Being with this organization is great. You can accomplish absolutely nothing with the team and still be a top 5 coach
Except I think the question is where you would rank him as a coach, not as a coach of the rangers. Which I would have to agree that he is a top 10 coach. He took a Lightning team that had previously struggled and turned them into division winners, and stanley cup champions. No he hasn't done anything with the Rangers yet. But, give him time - he has already helped in the development of so many of our kids. He teaches them to play the game right, and if you don't you won't be playing.

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Except I think the question is where you would rank him as a coach, not as a coach of the rangers. Which I would have to agree that he is a top 10 coach. He took a Lightning team that had previously struggled and turned them into division winners, and stanley cup champions. No he hasn't done anything with the Rangers yet. But, give him time - he has already helped in the development of so many of our kids. He teaches them to play the game right, and if you don't you won't be playing.
Yep, It took him about 4 years to build a team and get Tampa to the Cup. Can't take a bad team with little talent and turn them into champions overnight.

Anyone who thought Torts could magically make the Rangers into contenders with the roster he inherited was just delusional.

Not counting the half season where he took over for Renney because that was not his team,we're at the start of year 3. Give him some time.

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09-18-2011, 09:04 AM
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10-20.

Trotz
Bylsma
Boudreau
Boucher
Babcock
Martin
Quenneville
Carlyle
Laviolette


Those guys, in no order, I would rather have than Torts.

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What about Herb Brooks? Certainly he didn't gave the best horses but won.


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Generously went with the second ranking.
On the plus side, he gets a lot out of the players.
On the negative side, he rides them very hard phyiscally (e.g., would try to give first pair D 2min less avg per game).

I that regard reminds me of Billy Martin managing the A's before he came to the Yankees. Great starting rotation, and several had injury problems thereafter.

The overall grade is mixed but favorable.

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I don't mean to be overly harsh, but I think most coaches, etc in most sports are overrated. They win because they have the best (proverbial) horses so to speak,

The one exception to the rule was the late greate Bill Walsh of the football 49ers.
For example, he knew exactly when to trade for a Garrison Hearst, and when to dump him and still get decent value in draft picks or trade.

have I missed something?
Any Ranger execs that good?
Any hockey execs that good?
What do you think....

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