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09-21-2011, 10:02 AM
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Couturier signs entry-level contract

RT @NHLFlyers: #Flyers GM Paul Holmgren announced that the club has signed 2011 1st round pick (8th overall) Sean Couturier to an entry-level contract.

Someone is being dumped today.

http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?...id=DL|PHI|home

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The Flyers announced today that they have signed 6'4'', 200-pound forward Sean Couturier to an entry-level contract according to club general manager Paul Holmgren.

He made his NHL preseason debut at Toronto on Tuesday, posting a goal and an assist in 17:06 of time on ice.

Couturier (19, 12/07/92) was the Flyers' first round pick (8th overall) in the 2011 NHL Entry Draft. The pick was acquired from the Blue Jackets as part of the trade that saw Jeff Carter go to Columbus in exchange for forward Jake Voracek.

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RT @NHLFlyers: #Flyers GM Paul Holmgren announced that the club has signed 2011 1st round pick (8th overall) Sean Couturier to an entry-level contract.

Someone is being dumped today.
Noone needs to be traded/waived. Couturiers contract is similar to Noebels, it counts towards the 50 once he is on the roster for the tenth regular season game.

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Yay!! im extremely interested now on who we are going to trade. It will probably be a lower end prospect nothing too exciting probably. Maybe stefen Legein. Wonder if its a slider contract??

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Noone needs to be traded/waived. Couturiers contract is similar to Noebels, it counts towards the 50 once he is on the roster for the tenth regular season game.
I thought when the season starts it counts towards 50, but once he is sent back it does no longer.

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I hope it is Larsson-esque.

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I thought when the season starts it counts towards 50, but once he is sent back it does no longer.
No, its the other way around. It counts after ten games. Otherwise we would have been at 51 contracts since Noebels signed.

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As expected.

I would think he spends the year back in the Q, but it seems he'll get the regular season try out.

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So does this increase the chances of him staying past the 9 games?

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This is incorrect, is it not:

RT @philabright: Flyer ink F-Sean Couturier to an Entry-Level deal. Really curious move forcing PHI to keep him or lose year of control in JRS.

They don't lose a year of control if he goes to juniors before 9 games, right? The whole contract slides, only thing that might be affected is waiver eligibility.

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Why the rush to sign the kid? He doesn't belong in the NHL just yet.

Whatever Homer, I've learned to just stop questioning the moves and go with it.

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This is incorrect, is it not:

RT @philabright: Flyer ink F-Sean Couturier to an Entry-Level deal. Really curious move forcing PHI to keep him or lose year of control in JRS.

They don't lose a year of control if he goes to juniors before 9 games, right? The whole contract slides, only thing that might be affected is waiver eligibility.
Yea they would still have under contract.. it just slides and he doesnt lose a year in juniors. the contract will only kick in if he plays beyond the 9 game mark. its surprising that soe of the people who write for the flyers or consider themselves beat writters or bloggers dont no simple rules of the CBA?

Edit: dont mean to sound smug but i just feel these guys should know the rules

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This is incorrect, is it not:

RT @philabright: Flyer ink F-Sean Couturier to an Entry-Level deal. Really curious move forcing PHI to keep him or lose year of control in JRS.

They don't lose a year of control if he goes to juniors before 9 games, right? The whole contract slides, only thing that might be affected is waiver eligibility.
He can play 9 games in the NHL and then get send down to junior without losing a year of his contract, same thing happened with Schenn last season.

I have no idea about waiver eligibility, but as far as I can judge it, there's no down side of it, he still has three years on his contract if he gets send down accordingly and if not he probably has shown he belong in this league.

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This is incorrect, is it not:

RT @philabright: Flyer ink F-Sean Couturier to an Entry-Level deal. Really curious move forcing PHI to keep him or lose year of control in JRS.

They don't lose a year of control if he goes to juniors before 9 games, right? The whole contract slides, only thing that might be affected is waiver eligibility.
If they send him back after the ninth game it changes nothing.

- the contract slides, still three years on ELC
- UFA status stands, an accrued season is 40 games on active roster
- waiver eligibility stands, he signed as an 18 years old, its 5 years or 80 NHL games

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This is how Philly Sports Daily terms it:

http://phillysportsdaily.com/flyers/...ry-level-deal/

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Couturier is in an interesting situation in that he either has to make the Flyers roster or go back to his junior team in Drummondville. His contract can slide as long as he plays fewer than 10 games in the NHL, which means that the Flyers remain at the 50-contract limit.

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Someone will go anyways, because the Flyers don't like being right at 50.

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Unless he amazes for the rest of the preseason and in his first 9 games of the season, he won't stay

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Unless he amazes for the rest of the preseason and in his first 9 games of the season, he won't stay
I hate how rookies such as Couturier have a no win situation.

He can either play in a league where he is over matched physically and unable to make signifcant contributions.

Or he can play in a league where he has dominated and can't really improve on his game.

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I hate how rookies such as Couturier have a no win situation.

He can either play in a league where he is over matched physically and unable to make signifcant contributions.

Or he can play in a league where he has dominated and can't really improve on his game.
That's definitely true, but he can certainly work on adding some size in the weight room this season. There should be a set of exemptions to the CHL-AHL rule for guys who've obviously maxed out their potential in juniors, but CHL will never budge on that.

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Hopefully it's a cheap deal. That would be pretty sick if it was like Larsson's.

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That's definitely true, but he can certainly work on adding some size in the weight room this season. There should be a set of exemptions to the CHL-AHL rule for guys who've obviously maxed out their potential in juniors, but CHL will never budge on that.
I dont mean to criticize but the level of strength and conditoning involved in professional hockey is night and day compared to S and C in major junior hockey. If he goes down the improvements he makes on his conditioning and strength will only be age related gains.

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I hate how rookies such as Couturier have a no win situation.

He can either play in a league where he is over matched physically and unable to make signifcant contributions.

Or he can play in a league where he has dominated and can't really improve on his game.
It really makes a guy question the stupid "can't play in the AHL till you're 19" policy. I never have understood it. The AHL would be a perfect step right now for him.

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It really makes a guy question the stupid "can't play in the AHL till you're 19" policy. I never have understood it. The AHL would be a perfect step right now for him.
I know we are cup contenders this year, but we have a blue chip prospect on our hands here and we need to develop him properly. I would like to see him in a role similar to the one Seguin had last year for the Bruins. Have him on the roster and suite him up occassionally. That way he can get professional training all year, and the coaches and trainers can ***** his weaknesses and needs.

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It really makes a guy question the stupid "can't play in the AHL till you're 19" policy. I never have understood it. The AHL would be a perfect step right now for him.
It protects the CHL, or else they'd have all their prospects raided.

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It protects the CHL, or else they'd have all their prospects raided.
Not only that, the AHL, while not exactly like the Federal league in Slapshot, is a lot rougher than the CHL leagues and even the NHL. I wouldn't really want a 19 year old Couturier out there against Frank the Animal Bialowas or other players of that nature, especially when by all accounts, his biggest problem may be his strength and physicality. Let him bulk up in the CHL then make the team next year, that is, of course, unless he has a good camp makes it this year.

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