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09-22-2011, 10:40 AM
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It's pretty simple. He's gonna be happy if Markov reinjures again because it will prove he was right all along. It's an ego thing.
Wow.. he came up with that analysis all on his own, it wasn't the 90% of reports brainwashing the public that Markov would get reinjured it was all his amazingly in depth analysis of the situation.

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09-22-2011, 10:41 AM
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He looked so much more promising that Diaz, Weber, Tinordi and all the other prospects.

Yemelin I put into another category, because of the potenial of him adding the phyiscal element to the defensive corps. That is the differentiator between him and all the other prospects. That....we need.
If you're going to put Yemelin in a different category, then you have to do the same for Tinordi who isn't the same type of player as Beaulieu, Diaz and Weber who are all offensive defencemans. Tinordi doesn't belong in that category and plays a totally different game

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09-22-2011, 10:44 AM
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Wow.. he came up with that analysis all on his own, it wasn't the 90% of reports brainwashing the public that Markov would get reinjured it was all his amazingly in depth analysis of the situation.
Clearly he is a student from the great Dr. Recchi.

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09-22-2011, 10:48 AM
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Wow.. he came up with that analysis all on his own, it wasn't the 90% of reports brainwashing the public that Markov would get reinjured it was all his amazingly in depth analysis of the situation.


Markov MIGHT re-injures. I repeat, he MIGHT get re-injured. Saying that he WILL and we should not count on him whatsoever is sign of either future telling or letting your pessimism/ego cloud your judgment.


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Could Beaulieu be this year's Cam Fowler ?

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One thing is for sure...I'm drooling at the thought of a Subban and Beaulieu PP pairing for the future.

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Markov MIGHT re-injures. I repeat, he MIGHT get re-injured. Saying that he WILL and we should not count on him whatsoever is sign of either future telling or letting your pessimism/ego cloud your judgment.
Agreed. Not sure if you were implying I was saying that, seemed like it, but just to clarify I wasn't

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09-22-2011, 12:48 PM
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Could Beaulieu be this year's Cam Fowler ?
Problem is that there is simply no room for him on the Habs this year. Kid was really good last night and showed some good things, no need to rush him, let him develop another year in the minors

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If you're going to put Yemelin in a different category, then you have to do the same for Tinordi who isn't the same type of player as Beaulieu, Diaz and Weber who are all offensive defencemans. Tinordi doesn't belong in that category and plays a totally different game

I did not lump them together because of type of Defensemen, but because they were all not full time NHL'rs yet.

And yes, Tinordi would not be considered a offensive D, and a good team needs a mix of stay at home and puck moving D.



I am giddy with all the potential NHL'rs

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I did not lump them together because of type of Defensemen, but because they were all not full time NHL'rs yet.

And yes, Tinordi would not be considered a offensive D, and a good team needs a mix of stay at home and puck moving D.



I am giddy with all the potential NHL'rs
alright then, just making sure. And yes our defence looks great down the road

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09-22-2011, 12:53 PM
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Could Beaulieu be this year's Cam Fowler ?
He wont but take a look at post 68

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Agreed. Not sure if you were implying I was saying that, seemed like it, but just to clarify I wasn't
I wasn't sure if you did, actually. I wanted to make my position clear 'cause it seem people were making fun at me for calling out a guy's preposterous and extremely (and needlessly) negative posts.

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I wasn't sure if you did, actually. I wanted to make my position clear 'cause it seem people were making fun at me for calling out a guy's preposterous and extremely (and needlessly) negative posts.
No worries. Yeah I find it ridiculous as well. At least let it happen before going crazy about it. People are very pessimistic about the team in general. It's why I consider myself the habs optimist around these parts

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09-22-2011, 01:16 PM
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he looked great last night and if it weren't from all the other guys ahead of him, he might make it.

still, i wouldn't mind giving him a few games, early in the season before tossing him back to juniors

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Beaulieu made a lot of clear mistakes in his 27 minutes. I'm not sure how any of you can say he looked better than Weber. Weber looked like an NHLer while Beaulieu looked like a future NHLer.

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09-22-2011, 01:25 PM
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Beaulieu made a lot of clear mistakes in his 27 minutes. I'm not sure how any of you can say he looked better than Weber. Weber looked like an NHLer while Beaulieu looked like a future NHLer.
Odd how you had this take on his play. I saw him recover loose pucks nicely in the defensive end, I saw him make crisp, hard passes and handle the puck with decent poise for a rookie.

I saw Spacek and others make a few brutal plays in the defensive zone though.

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Beaulieu made a lot of clear mistakes in his 27 minutes. I'm not sure how any of you can say he looked better than Weber. Weber looked like an NHLer while Beaulieu looked like a future NHLer.
I'd agree with that. It's not a knock on Beaulieu - some aspects of his game looked great, but it's obvious he needs work on others. Watch Pominville's goal, where Pominville just slips away from Beaulieu who gets left staring at the rafters. The giveaway in the first period leading to a near breakaway is another one.

But considering he was drafted all of three months ago, I was thrilled with what I saw. His puck handling might be NHL-ready but that doesn't mean he is. No big deal.

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09-22-2011, 01:56 PM
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He looked good but he will be in the Q this year and at least 1 year in Hamilton, There is no need to rush him....

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Futures looks promising for him, that's for sure.

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People get a bit too obsessed about defensive errors in exhibition games. You see it with all players and teams, for the most part it's a bunch of guys not used to playing with each other with vets and rookies mixed in.

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09-22-2011, 02:30 PM
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If you're going to put Yemelin in a different category, then you have to do the same for Tinordi who isn't the same type of player as Beaulieu, Diaz and Weber who are all offensive defencemans. Tinordi doesn't belong in that category and plays a totally different game
Great point. Beaulieu looks to be following the path of Subban, maybe even bi-pass the AHL if he gets bigger and stronger with his already NHL game.

Tinordi is a different class of Dman, one that will be appreciated more when he is full developed in his body and game. He is still on a learning curve as he hasn't played the highly competitive level Beaulieu has over his development, and he has a larger body to get use to and to develop.

Tinordi is a player like a Komisarek who is going to need to play a couple years of junior and in the AHL too. Kommy was drafted in 2001 and wasn't an NHL full timer until 2005-06. Same can be said about Duncan Keith and others, 2 years in the AHL didn't hurt him, and he wasn't labelled bust because of it either.

Some players come flying out of the gates, and some others take time. Most GM's would tell you that all players pick are usually put on a timeline of finishing their junior career or partial NCAA career and then playing pro in the AHL to learn the pro game. And we all know the average Dman coming into the NHL full time is around 23-24, there is a lot of time for Tinordi.

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In time, between 2 and 4 years, I expect Beaulieu and Tinordi to replace Markov and Gill.

so for now we got (with a healthy Markov and benched/let go after this season Spacek):

Gorges-Markov
Subban-Yemelin
Gill-Weber


and in 3 years give and take we'll have:

Subban-Yemelin
Gorges-Beaulieu
Tinordi-Weber

It pretty much works out perfectly...

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Could Beaulieu be this year's Cam Fowler ?
Yeah Cam Fowler and his -25 lol

Beaulieu displayed some very impressive skills and hockey sense last night but he was clearly looking like a kid who needs polishment.. Still, great first impression in the big show, very impressive..

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I don't know what makes our fans so darn stupid..
I understand people are excited, but damn, one freaking game and already there's a thread like this.

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The only thing that surpasses the enthusiasm for Beaulieu is the underwhelming response to Tinordi. Style of play is a factor here.

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