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08-22-2011, 10:44 AM
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edit- I meant to post this in the which player would you get rid of thread. I moved it there.


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Here's what I'd like to see:

JvR-Giroux-Jagr
Hartnell-Briere-Voracek
Nodl-Schenn-Simmonds
Talbot-Betts-Sestito
Shelley

Pronger-Carle
Timonen-Coburn
Mez-Bartulis/Gus/Lilja
Bartulis/Gus/Lilja

Bryz
Bob

I'd like them to waive Shelley, especially if Sestito makes the team, but I don't think they will do it. Also if Nylander plays well and makes it he might help Jagr out, but I am not sure where he would play and I am not holding my breath on him making the team. Six and seven dman are all interchangeable on this team I think so whichever two of the three make it is fine and just start whichever one is playing better at the time.

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08-22-2011, 07:43 PM
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Here's what I'd like to see:

JvR-Giroux-Jagr
Hartnell-Briere-Voracek
Nodl-Schenn-Simmonds
Talbot-Betts-Sestito
Shelley

Pronger-Carle
Timonen-Coburn
Mez-Bartulis/Gus/Lilja
Bartulis/Gus/Lilja

Bryz
Bob

I'd like them to waive Shelley, especially if Sestito makes the team, but I don't think they will do it. Also if Nylander plays well and makes it he might help Jagr out, but I am not sure where he would play and I am not holding my breath on him making the team. Six and seven dman are all interchangeable on this team I think so whichever two of the three make it is fine and just start whichever one is playing better at the time.
From the outside, I'd say this is probably a very balanced team. Also should have nice chemistry although I am not sure if Jagr should be with the top line.

Also if I am correct...isn't talbot a RW more?

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08-22-2011, 07:45 PM
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Here's what I'd like to see:

JvR-Giroux-Jagr
Hartnell-Briere-Voracek
Nodl-Schenn-Simmonds
Talbot-Betts-Sestito
Shelley

Pronger-Carle
Timonen-Coburn
Mez-Bartulis/Gus/Lilja
Bartulis/Gus/Lilja

Bryz
Bob

I'd like them to waive Shelley, especially if Sestito makes the team, but I don't think they will do it. Also if Nylander plays well and makes it he might help Jagr out, but I am not sure where he would play and I am not holding my breath on him making the team. Six and seven dman are all interchangeable on this team I think so whichever two of the three make it is fine and just start whichever one is playing better at the time.
I'd just say to switch Jagr and Voracek. And if it is not Sestito, I think it will be then Holmstrom. Shelley should only ever crack the top 12 if someone on the 4th line got injured or just can't play. Honestly, I hope to god that Gus gets the job.

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08-23-2011, 09:09 PM
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Not saying he'll play center for the Flyers, but Talbot took a lot of faceoffs last season for the Pens, probably due in part to injuries to Staal and Malkin.

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08-23-2011, 09:11 PM
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You are actually incorrect on both statements.

According to Dobberhockey, Talbot during the 2010-2011 season



The only time he took any faceoffs was on the pk.


On the 2nd statement, I would 100% rather have Schenn center that line. Matt Read isnt even going to be a center in the pros so I have no idea what the hell your talking about. In the AHL last season he played on the wing. In the prospect scrimmages he is playing on the wing.
Thanks for lookin that up for me...

He takes faceoffs .... well... and sorry forgot the with Mr. Read. Guy of his caliber should be able to play any position. Even be our 3rd goalie.

I hope Schenn pulls 3rd line duties... my line up is based on what i "think" is going to be the out there.. not necessarilly what I'd put out there.. Should have mentioned that too...

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08-23-2011, 09:19 PM
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Thanks for lookin that up for me...

He takes faceoffs .... well... and sorry forgot the with Mr. Read. Guy of his caliber should be able to play any position. Even be our 3rd goalie.

I hope Schenn pulls 3rd line duties... my line up is based on what i "think" is going to be the out there.. not necessarilly what I'd put out there.. Should have mentioned that too...
Eh, when people put Talbot as a 3rd line center, kind of annoys me, since he isnt a center. Not taking alot of faceoffs can make your faceoff % look good.

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08-24-2011, 10:54 AM
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Talbot's faceoff percentage wasn't actually that good it was 48.6% and he was second on the team in terms of the number taken in the regular season, at 874. He was also second in the number of faceoffs taken in the playoffs, though his percentage was 46.8%.

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09-22-2011, 07:16 PM
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Hey guys,
I'm just wondering if anyone would be interested in updating the Flyers line combinations on a new website I've created over the course of the season?
Anyone can do it as long as you're registered.

I apologize if anyone is offended and feels this isn't the place to ask - but I definitely didn't want to start a new thread.

Here's the website:
http://www.1stopfantasyhockey.com/te...id=Phi&type=lc

Just so you know, I'm not making any money on the site and don't even have any advertising. My goal is to create a completely free site for users with the most up-to-date information. I watch a ton of hockey but in all honesty I rarely catch the Flyers so I'm not the best person to post the line combos as the season progresses.

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09-22-2011, 07:27 PM
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I'm hoping Read, Gustafsson, and Holmstrom impress enough at camp to get a spot.

JvR-Giroux-Voracek---Young skill line. All can set up, all can bury it
Hartnell-Briere-Jagr---pretty elite cycling line
Read - Schenn - Simmonds---Underrated defensive line, and they could all pot 40+ points
Talbot - Holmstrom - Nodl---very pesky line, excellent defensively, won't cost us offense.

Betts, Sestito/Shelley/Rinaldo - I feel like Betts and Holmstrom will split time as they rest Betts and groom Holmstrom. Sestito, Shelley, and Rinaldo essentially fill the same role, and we won't need an enforcer unless there's a regular enforcer dressed for an opposing team.

Timonen - Coburn - Coburn needs #1 time
Pronger - Carle - Can't break these two up when Pronger's healthy
Meszaros - Gustafsson - Mez is a solid partner for a rookie to start with.

Lilja, Bartulis

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How many players are you expecting the Flyers to carry?

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09-22-2011, 09:00 PM
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How many players are you expecting the Flyers to carry?
21-23 players. Note the backslashes between each players names, instead of commas, implying that one or two of them I'd like to see make the team, not all.

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09-22-2011, 09:03 PM
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21-23 players. Note the backslashes between each players names, instead of commas, implying that one or two of them I'd like to see make the team, not all.
21 maybe. I don't see the Flyers being able to carry 14 Forwards

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09-22-2011, 09:07 PM
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JVR-Giroux-Jagr
Hartnell-Briere-Voracek
Couturier-Schenn-Simmonds
Talbot-Betts-Nodl

safe to assume?

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JVR-Giroux-Jagr
Hartnell-Briere-Voracek
Couturier-Schenn-Simmonds
Talbot-Betts-Nodl

safe to assume?
Read will be there and I have my doubts about Couturier playing more than 9 games in the NHL.
I also think Sestito > Nodl in a fourth line role.

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09-22-2011, 09:19 PM
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I would hope the Flyers don't rush Couturier and let him play another yr in juniors.

I would want to see something like

JVR - Giroux - Jagr
Hartnell - Briere - Voracek
Nodl - Schenn - Simmonds
Rinaldo - Betts - Talbot
Shelley/

Timonen - Coburn
Pronger - Carle
Meszaros - Lilja

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09-22-2011, 09:20 PM
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Read will be there and I have my doubts about Couturier playing more than 9 games in the NHL.
I also think Sestito > Nodl in a fourth line role.
Read is a question mark to make it. How do you know that Sestito is greater than Nodl in a 4th line role? How many NHL games have you seen Sestito play in the NHL?

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09-22-2011, 09:21 PM
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If we dropped Shelley we could go

JVR - Giroux - Jagr
Hartnell - Briere - Voracek
Talbot - Schenn - Simmonds
Rinaldo - Betts - Sestito/Nodl

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09-22-2011, 09:36 PM
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JVR - G - Jagr
Hartnell - Briere - Voracek
Read - Schenn - Simmonds
Talbot - Betts - Sestito

Coburn - Timmonen
Pronger - Carle
Gus - Me

Bryz
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Lilja - Rinaldo

Would waive Shelley

Would look to move Nodl, Bartulis, Legin, Marshall and Bourdon for picks or for the last 3 to free up contract space.

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09-22-2011, 10:02 PM
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Read will be there and I have my doubts about Couturier playing more than 9 games in the NHL.
I also think Sestito > Nodl in a fourth line role.
Nodl is an everyday 4th liner. I haven't seen that from Sestito yet. He doesn't have a very defined role. He's not quite a heavyweight, not really a grinder, not much of a power forward, and to the best of my knowledge, he's not a two-way forward.

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Nodl is an everyday 4th liner. I haven't seen that from Sestito yet. He doesn't have a very defined role. He's not quite a heavyweight, not really a grinder, not much of a power forward, and to the best of my knowledge, he's not a two-way forward.
I'm amazed more and more when I read posters saying they want to trade a solid young player with upside in Nodl, so they can put a player that people know nothing about, in Sestito in the lineup. The guy has played all of about 90 minutes of NHL Hockey in his life. But let's trade a solid young two way forward, who can forecheck, check defensively, kill penalties, and can play as a support player on about any line. Mind boggling

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JvR - Giroux - Jagr
Hartnell - Briere - Voracek
Read/Wellwood/Nodl - Schenn - Simmonds
Sestito/Nodl - Betts - Talbot

Rinaldo/Holmstrom


Pronger - Carle
Coburn - Timonen
Meszaros - Gustaffson

Lilja

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I'm amazed more and more when I read posters saying they want to trade a solid young player with upside in Nodl, so they can put a player that people know nothing about, in Sestito in the lineup. The guy has played all of about 90 minutes of NHL Hockey in his life. But let's trade a solid young two way forward, who can forecheck, check defensively, kill penalties, and can play as a support player on about any line. Mind boggling
This day in age, I feel like playing enforcers everyday is a waste of a roster spot. Vancouver and Boston went to the finals last year rolling 4 lines of decent players without sacrificing skill. I have no problems with keeping Sestito, Rinaldo or Shelley around, but I don't think they should be playing everyday.

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09-22-2011, 10:41 PM
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I'm hoping Read, Gustafsson, and Holmstrom impress enough at camp to get a spot.

JvR-Giroux-Voracek---Young skill line. All can set up, all can bury it
Hartnell-Briere-Jagr---pretty elite cycling line
Read - Schenn - Simmonds---Underrated defensive line, and they could all pot 40+ points
Talbot - Holmstrom - Nodl---very pesky line, excellent defensively, won't cost us offense.

Betts, Sestito/Shelley/Rinaldo - I feel like Betts and Holmstrom will split time as they rest Betts and groom Holmstrom. Sestito, Shelley, and Rinaldo essentially fill the same role, and we won't need an enforcer unless there's a regular enforcer dressed for an opposing team.

Timonen - Coburn - Coburn needs #1 time
Pronger - Carle - Can't break these two up when Pronger's healthy
Meszaros - Gustafsson - Mez is a solid partner for a rookie to start with.

Lilja, Bartulis

Bryzgalov
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I think you've won the thread.

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09-22-2011, 11:55 PM
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I would hope the Flyers don't rush Couturier and let him play another yr in juniors.
its hardly rushing, hes already 19... many players play at that age.. he was a late birthday remember. and he isnt gonna do much else in junior, he woulda had over 100 points if he wasn't hurt and gone for wjc.. plus he was like plus 50 or somethin crazy, hes good defensively as well. that would be a pretty sick 3rd line i think

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09-23-2011, 12:36 AM
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My main position battles are:

Vorachek vs Simmonds for the second and third line duties

Nodl vs Read for the third line

Shelley vs Holmstrom vs Sestito for the fourth line and the 13th forward spot

Gustafsson vs Bartulis for the 3rd pairing or 7th d spot

I currently am giving the edge to Vorachek, Read, Holmstrom, Sestito, and Bartulis.

Vorachek has more offensive skill then Simmonds, though Simmonds is a rock and I am excited about watching him play.

Read has been IMPRESSIVE and if given a shot on the third line he could be an impact player.

Holmstrom is the speed for against the smaller teams and Sestito is the beef for against the more physical teams.

Bartulis has looked better on defense than Gustafsson. Sure Gusty has the offensive skill, but his defense seemed lacking. Gusty should play in a top 4 role if called up so he would get more playing time and a better chance to improve on his positioning/defensive game.

My lines are:

Hartnell, Briere, Jagr
JVR, Giroux, Vorachek
Read, Schenn, Simmonds
Holmstrom/Betts/Talbot
Sestito

Pronger/Carle
Kimmo/Mez
Coburn/Lilja
Bartulis

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