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09-23-2011, 01:22 PM
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If anyone I like moen in front of the net. That way AK can work his potential magic
darche is a better fit in my opinion. its a good thing we are having this debate. It shows that the habs have some depth.

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Great move by JM.

What do you think the chances are of AK remaining in MTL after this season?

We don't have anyone currently in our system to replace his size, shot and scoring ability.

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AK has a very hard shot and it would be good for the 2nd unit. I'm not sure AK plans on using it much, but last year we had Pleck at the point on 4-3 and 5-3, while Pleck is a good passer, the shooting threat of AK on the point opens more even more room for guys down below.

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How about using big Hal "sasquatch" Gill?
Too confusing. Next thing you know, he's going to start blocking Carey's view during the PKs too...

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Interesting, but with Markov and Subban, it's pretty clear who the PP QBs are going to be. Wonder what AK's one timer from the point looks like. Hopefully we'll get to see.

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Interesting, but with Markov and Subban, it's pretty clear who the PP QBs are going to be. Wonder what AK's one timer from the point looks like. Hopefully we'll get to see.
Marky Weber and Subban are for sure going to be on the point(if weber makes the team). But who after that? Spacek?. If Yemelin makes the team then he should be on the point he has a bomb.

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If it gets AK PP time then this is win/win imo. AK can play on the 3rd line and that 3rd line being competent will likely get more minutes than a usual 3rd line would. Then give him that PP opportunity, should make AK happy cause I know he wanted more PP time last season. This could be beneficial to him.

Also does anyone get the feeling that AK potentially did sit down with JM and discuss his issues?

Seems like exactly the kind of thing that could not only help the team but make JM and AK both happy.

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Marky Weber and Subban are for sure going to be on the point(if weber makes the team). But who after that? Spacek?. If Yemelin makes the team then he should be on the point he has a bomb.
I think the 2nd PP will be Yemelin and Weber. They didn't bring Yemelin to NA for him "not to make the team". Even if you have to bring him along slowly(#5-6 instead of top 4) he's a no brainer to be on the roster.

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Marky Weber and Subban are for sure going to be on the point(if weber makes the team). But who after that? Spacek?. If Yemelin makes the team then he should be on the point he has a bomb.
Weber is also a lock to make the team. They can't send him down without waivers, I'm sure he'd get claimed, nad it would be crazy to trade him with Markov on the team. Weber is a good insurance policy, especially on the PP and 4 on 4 situations.

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09-23-2011, 01:46 PM
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If it gets AK PP time then this is win/win imo. AK can play on the 3rd line and that 3rd line being competent will likely get more minutes than a usual 3rd line would. Then give him that PP opportunity, should make AK happy cause I know he wanted more PP time last season. This could be beneficial to him.

Also does anyone get the feeling that AK potentially did sit down with JM and discuss his issues?

Seems like exactly the kind of thing that could not only help the team but make JM and AK both happy.
I totally think that's happened. It seems like they both put their issues on the table and made some sort of compromise and worked things out. If this is the case then bravo to both of them

But who knows I am not going to jump to any conclusions

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Weber is also a lock to make the team. They can't send him down without waivers, I'm sure he'd get claimed, nad it would be crazy to trade him with Markov on the team. Weber is a good insurance policy, especially on the PP and 4 on 4 situations.
Sorry I meant to say if Weber was the 7th dman on the team. Its either him or Spacek, but judging from Spacek's performance the other night there could be quite the battle for the 6th spot. Personally I like Weber more.

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I totally think that's happened. It seems like they both put their issues on the table and made some sort of compromise and worked things out. If this is the case then bravo to both of them

But who knows I am not going to jump to any conclusions
I can't predict how Kostitsyn will perform on the PP point but I would be very much relieved if he came to an understanding with JM. He's a very talented player.

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He tends to fan on shots, which worries me back there as 1 of 2 players back. Plus one timers aren't his bread and butter.

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I can't predict how Kostitsyn will perform on the PP point but I would be very much relieved if he came to an understanding with JM. He's a very talented player.
JM always sounded to me like a guy who would say : "prove me you can make it work, and I'll use it. But don't start doing it when it ain't the time"

I think it's also why Subban was so active with the puck on Wednesday. JM told him that if he proves he can spearhead the offense, he'll be allowed more liberty about it

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I totally think that's happened. It seems like they both put their issues on the table and made some sort of compromise and worked things out. If this is the case then bravo to both of them

But who knows I am not going to jump to any conclusions
I'm pretty sure I remember hearing Martin talk about that during the golf tournament. He said he didn't pay too much attention to what the Russian reporters said and that they were going to have a sit-down that week to talk it over.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure coaches and players have at least a sit-down every other week. There's too much time and money invested in NHL players to just let things happen as they happen. Coaches and GM's need to cover their ***** by protecting the owners' investment, which is done by making sure the team is happy and functional.

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He does have a bomb of a shot, we tried this before with Carbo but Andrei wasn't accurate enough. We'll see if his accuracy his improved.

You want Kostitsyn out there on the PP, but Cole, Patches and Gionta have the net presence job.

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Suddenly, I'm thinking .....how many goals Ovechkin or Stamkos score on PP when playing at blue line.

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Suddenly, I'm thinking .....how many goals Ovechkin or Stamkos score on PP when playing at blue line.
plenty, but don't put Kostitsyn in the category of those 2

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Suddenly, I'm thinking .....how many goals Ovechkin or Stamkos score on PP when playing at blue line.
Stamkos never plays the point, he plays off wing on the half boards much like Cammy does and Kovalev used to do. Ovechkin plays the point but he scores by jumping into the play, not necessarily point shots.

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plenty, but don't put Kostitsyn in the category of those 2
I agree but he has a similar shot, just needs to work on small things like space, fanning and one timers

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09-23-2011, 02:52 PM
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AK not very fast? Says who?

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I agree but he has a similar shot, just needs to work on small things like space, fanning and one timers
He has a great shot no doubt about it but if Subban is the shooter no point in having both there. A forward like Kostitsyn playing D is very risky, it's pre season and it's time to try stuff out but I'd be very surprised to see Martin use Andrei there during the season

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Disagree. Andrei's one of the few big bodies we have to park in front of the goalie, and he usually does a pretty good job in that role.
This. That's where I usually see him parked on the PP, and that's where he should be.

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I dont think it would work well. AK is at his best in the slot picking up loose pucks, along the boards cycling the puck or when he is full stride. The way he handles the puck he needs room to backtrack. On the blue line I can definitely see his stick handling being more exposed to poke checks then a guy like Plekanec for instance.

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A forward like Kostitsyn playing D is very risky, it's pre season and it's time to try stuff out but I'd be very surprised to see Martin use Andrei there during the season
I don't think it'll work out but I fail to see how it's risky, if teams cheat tocover AK more, that is a good thing because it mans more open space for the other players.

People are acting if AK is a turn over machine,even a former goalie like me could cycle the puck from the point with a goalie stick, ok maybe not a goalie stick.

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I don't think it'll work out but I fail to see how it's risky, if teams cheat tocover AK more, that is a good thing because it mans more open space for the other players.

People are acting if AK is a turn over machine,even a former goalie like me could cycle the puck from the point with a goalie stick, ok maybe not a goalie stick.
Using a forward on D is more risky because they dont have the same reflexes/experience as a D. When you have two D one will usually know when to pull back/cover for the other D and vice versa and they are better at defending 1 on 1/1 on 2 when something breaks down.

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AK can't skate backwards fast enough. Even Pleky can't do it. We don't have an Ovi who can take over the powerplay from the point.

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