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09-23-2011, 10:32 AM
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Couple times last game he turned back from the forecheck to find his defensive assignment.

At least once it looked like he had a chance to win the puck on the boards but peeled away to make sure he didn't get caught up ice.

Great defensive awareness but he's got to balance his game a bit more.
That's exactly why he'll make the team under Jacques Martin...

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09-23-2011, 11:29 AM
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So NOBODY is broadcasting today's game?
They are showing the game on a tape-delayed basis on Rogers channel 22 in Ottawa tonight at 10pm.

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09-23-2011, 11:55 AM
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Couple times last game he turned back from the forecheck to find his defensive assignment.

At least once it looked like he had a chance to win the puck on the boards but peeled away to make sure he didn't get caught up ice.

Great defensive awareness but he's got to balance his game a bit more.
I noticed that in the game against the Stars. I think because he knows what the coaches want from him and he wants to give it to them. I believe that when he gets more comfortable with his linemates and knows that if he is going harder on the forecheck and he can trust them to cover his responsibilities, he should balance out more.

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09-23-2011, 11:59 AM
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They are showing the game on a tape-delayed basis on Rogers channel 22 in Ottawa tonight at 10pm.
Game is available on channel 456 on Rogers according to Sens homepage.
Also 456 on Videotron Center ice package.

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09-24-2011, 10:45 AM
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Here's who I would keep after the weekend:

G - 3
Budaj
Lawson
Price

D - 10
Beaulieu
Diaz
Gill
Gorges
Markov
Spacek
Subban
Weber
Woywitka
Yemelin

F - 18
Avtsin
Blunden
Cammalleri
Cole
Darche
Desharnais
Dumont
Eller
Engqvist
Gallagher
Gionta
Gomez
Kostitsyn
Moen
Pacioretty
Palushaj
Plekanec
White

The next cuts would then be Lawson, Beaulieu, Diaz, Dumont, Engqvist, Avtsin, Palushaj which would leave us with:

Price/Budaj

Markov Weber
Gill Subban
Spacek Gorges
Yemelin+Woywitka

Cammalleri Plekanec Cole
Pacioretty Gomez Gionta
Kostitsyn Eller Desharnais
Moen White Darche
Blunden+Gallagher

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09-24-2011, 11:05 AM
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Isn't Gallagher too young for NHL?

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09-24-2011, 11:09 AM
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Isn't Gallagher too young for NHL?
Yes but he could still play a few NHL games with us since we got injuries and then go back to the WHL.

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09-24-2011, 11:10 AM
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I was hoping to see more of Alain Berger, but theyre playing Massť, Lefebvre tonight..

No Ellis yet either?

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09-24-2011, 11:19 AM
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I was at the game yesterday and kept an eye on few player i was curious about; Avstin, gallagher, Diaz and yemelin.

The least impressive of the bunch was Avstin. I have not seen any flash of his talent Yesterday. I was most srised by Diaz. this guy has very good instincts. He moves well andbthink he might be a dimond in the rough. I think he looks better then Streit when he came over and i already prefer him to weber.

Gallagher is shifty. He is very good to manoeuver is small area. If he gains some strength he will eventally become a very good nhler.

Yemelin did not stand out which might be a good thing for him.

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09-24-2011, 11:39 AM
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It's funny I actually think Weber would look sick next to Markov. If he can become Streit 2.0.... god help this division

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I was at the game yesterday and kept an eye on few player i was curious about; Avstin, gallagher, Diaz and yemelin.

The least impressive of the bunch was Avstin. I have not seen any flash of his talent Yesterday. I was most srised by Diaz. this guy has very good instincts. He moves well andbthink he might be a dimond in the rough. I think he looks better then Streit when he came over and i already prefer him to weber.

Gallagher is shifty. He is very good to manoeuver is small area. If he gains some strength he will eventally become a very good nhler.

Yemelin did not stand out which might be a good thing for him.
I agree with most of it. Diaz, in two games he played, was the best D on the team that included Yemelin, Weber, Gil and Woiwitka. He played team high 25 minutes last night and I get a feeling he will play an important role on the blue line this season. It seems that Yemelin needs more time to adjust to this game. As for Avtsin, he was able to show his skills better against Dallas but it is hard for him to do it while playing with the role players. But he clearly needs to play more minutes and with better linemates than he did last year in Hamilton.

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09-24-2011, 08:42 PM
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After sunday

I'm guessing that after tomorrow's game in Halifax, first cuts will be made

so after tonights games, here is my conclusions

Fred Saint-Denis: Did good safe player but no place for him, CUT

Mark Mittera: Depth for Hamilton, CUT

Nathan Beaulieu: you see the potential, he will be something but i don't get the people who says he should stay for the beginning of the year but, he stays longer

Spacek, Gorges, Woywitka all stay for now

forward

Worried about Plekanec but him, cammaleri, gionta, moen of course stays...

Lefebvre, CUT
Massť, SUPER CUT
Shultz, SUPER CUT

Archambault, like what i saw, might be good in the future but CUT for now

Disimone CUT

Trotter, doesn't do it for me... CUT

For now, i keep Dumont and Palushaj, one of them might be there at the end

what are your guess???

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09-24-2011, 08:44 PM
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I'm guessing that after tomorrow's game in Halifax, first cuts will be made

so after tonights games, here is my conclusions

Fred Saint-Denis: Did good safe player but no place for him, CUT

Mark Mittera: Depth for Hamilton, CUT

Nathan Beaulieu: you see the potential, he will be something but i don't get the people who says he should stay for the beginning of the year but, he stays longer

Spacek, Gorges, Woywitka all stay for now

forward

Worried about Plekanec but him, cammaleri, gionta, moen of course stays...

Lefebvre, CUT
Massť, SUPER CUT
Shultz, SUPER CUT

Archambault, like what i saw, might be good in the future but CUT for now

Disimone CUT

Trotter, doesn't do it for me... CUT

For now, i keep Dumont and Palushaj, one of them might be there at the end

what are your guess???
I agree

Id say Mitera is better than I thought.

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09-24-2011, 08:52 PM
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Dumont-Palushaj-Engvist-Blunden are still fighting for the last spot up front. They could keep 1 more if DD Eller or White is not ready to start oct 6.

On Defence, without Markov you need to keep 7 players.
Gorges-Subban-Spacek-Gill-Yemelin-Weber

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Who do you keep?

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09-24-2011, 08:56 PM
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Dumont-Palushaj-Engvist-Blunden are still fighting for the last spot up front. They could keep 1 more if DD Eller or White is not ready to start oct 6.

On Defence, without Markov you need to keep 7 players.
Gorges-Subban-Spacek-Gill-Yemelin-Weber

1 of Diaz-Woywitka-Beaulieu

Who do you keep?
I'd cut Palushaj and Blunden. Leave it up to Dumont and Engqvist for 4th line center.
And I'd keep Diaz.

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09-24-2011, 09:16 PM
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I'd cut Palushaj and Blunden. Leave it up to Dumont and Engqvist for 4th line center.
And I'd keep Diaz.
And I'd cut Palushaj and Engqvist. Go dominate the AHL if you can. Blunden as a young vet who will not improve even by going in the AHL, is your perfect 13th forward. As far as Dumont is concerned, while he would improve, my reason to keep him now is to prove that preseason might mean something....

On D, Diaz needs to see action even if it's the AHL level. And Beaulieu is surely gone. A vet like Woywitka is your perfect #7D.

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And I'd cut Palushaj and Engqvist. Go dominate the AHL if you can. Blunden as a young vet who will not improve even by going in the AHL, is your perfect 13th forward. As far as Dumont is concerned, while he would improve, my reason to keep him now is to prove that preseason might mean something....

On D, Diaz needs to see action even if it's the AHL level. And Beaulieu is surely gone. A vet like Woywitka is your perfect #7D.

Agree with all except Woywitka
i really dont like what i saw about that guy so far.....

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Dumont-Palushaj-Engvist-Blunden are still fighting for the last spot up front. They could keep 1 more if DD Eller or White is not ready to start oct 6.

On Defence, without Markov you need to keep 7 players.
Gorges-Subban-Spacek-Gill-Yemelin-Weber

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Who do you keep?
They gonna keep Woywitka unless beaulieu is so great that he's not giving them other option than keeping him.

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Agree with all except Woywitka
i really dont like what i saw about that guy so far.....
Sure, and I agree, but at the end of the day, you can call up a Diaz if some regular defenseman is out for a prolonged period. Woywitka's there just as insurance in the 7th D slot.

Also, and while I don't like what I've seen from Woywitka at all, he does have NHL size, decent skating, and understands what it takes to play in the NHL (albeit, not as a regular). That alone brings more stability than a youngster. And stability is what you want from someone jumping into the lineup.

Similarly, stability is what you want for a younger, developing player. Ideally, they're in a stable environment (AHL) where they play a lot, get exposed to tougher and more ice time than they're accustomed to, and can then make a clean promotion up to the NHL to energise the club later on down the stretch. That's the ideal, anyway. So from that vantage point, Woywitka is indeed the best choice of the group for the #7 slot.

Only question is what happens when all of the top-5 D are healthy? Then there's two spots (#6, #7) for Weber, Yemelin and Woywitka. My guess is that if Yemelin demonstrates he's worthy of playing in the NHL, then Woywitka's the odd man out.

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I would say Palushaj and Enqvist are the front runners right now. Dumont still needs seasoning, he will not stand out against NHL men.

I have not seen enough of Blunden to make a firm statement about him.

Yemelin will be a regular on D, I am pretty sure of it. I agree with Mike, Woywitka is best suited for a 7th defensemen.

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I'm not impressed much by the desire of the guys to make the team. And the physicality is non-existant. Where's the fire in these kids?

Also is Olivier Fortier injured? I wanted to see what he could do.

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I'm not impressed much by the desire of the guys to make the team. And the physicality is non-existant. Where's the fire in these kids?
seriously?

would a pre-game ritual sacrifice be enough to convince you?

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I'm not impressed much by the desire of the guys to make the team. And the physicality is non-existant. Where's the fire in these kids?

Also is Olivier Fortier injured? I wanted to see what he could do.
I agree. Very soft.

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The young players are very soft because they know the toughness is a non factor for their coach...

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