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09-26-2011, 03:34 PM
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09-26-2011, 05:58 PM
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Yes, Saad should have been a top 10 pick, just like Larsson should have gone 1st overall.

Sometimes people need to stop getting way too attached to prospects and realize that professional scouts know more than they do. It seems like every year the players who fall in rank are touted as ridiculous steals on this forum.
Cam Fowler should have gone in the top ten last year. Sometimes the scouts make mistakes--it is still a game of speculation, after all.

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09-26-2011, 06:01 PM
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A statement that you can't substantiate.
I can substantiate it by watching him play. Same with Wolski. It's obvious with both.

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That's probably why Wolski was in Newmarket this off-season training with Gary Roberts and sticking to a strict diet, because he simply doesn't care.
Boy, and how long did it take him to start caring? Must have been when he realized he was almost going to be released and without a job.

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09-26-2011, 06:09 PM
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Obviously the EDM brain trust must have all done drugs just before the draft to have taken RNH over him.

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09-26-2011, 06:18 PM
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I would have to see it to believe that Saad will be better than McNeill.

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09-26-2011, 07:57 PM
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Scored 20 goals in the first half then just 9....
That's why he slipped.
And the fact there are questions about his compete level as well as his obvious inability to hurt a fly out there. He's soft as butter...

I did mention before the draft that he had top 10 skills though...

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09-26-2011, 08:07 PM
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He was hurt last year but playing through it hence why it looked like his compete level wasn't as high as scouts would like. Just an example of a player due to a badly timed injury but who otherwise had top 15 type skills. I like him better than both of the Hawks 1st Round picks.

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09-26-2011, 11:18 PM
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I would have to see it to believe that Saad will be better than McNeill.
They're two different players. Saad definitely has a higher ceiling though.

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09-26-2011, 11:30 PM
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They're two different players. Saad definitely has a higher ceiling though.
And higher bust ratio.

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09-27-2011, 04:15 AM
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And higher bust ratio.
Certainly haven't seen that this preseason. McNeil looks to have the higher potential to bust.

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It's a Saad, Saad situation. And it's getting more and more absurd.

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09-27-2011, 10:39 AM
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Certainly haven't seen that this preseason. McNeil looks to have the higher potential to bust.
Sample size my friend, sample size.

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And clearly Scheifele should of gone first overall because of his strong camp.

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09-27-2011, 11:27 AM
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Yes, Saad should have been a top 10 pick, just like Larsson should have gone 1st overall.

Sometimes people need to stop getting way too attached to prospects and realize that professional scouts know more than they do. It seems like every year the players who fall in rank are touted as ridiculous steals on this forum.
Come off it, you're like a broken record.

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And clearly Scheifele should of gone first overall because of his strong camp.
Well, he's getting the "We knew it all along" treatment for now...will look good if he pans out. Terrible if not. We'll see.

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09-27-2011, 11:51 AM
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Sample size my friend, sample size.
I understand about sample size. Until the last half of last season, Saad was more highly regarded than McNeil. The sample size over the last few years would perhaps be in the favor of Saad.

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09-27-2011, 12:07 PM
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I understand about sample size. Until the last half of last season, Saad was more highly regarded than McNeil. The sample size over the last few years would perhaps be in the favor of Saad.
There is a reason why Saad went in the 2nd round and McNeill went in the 1st.

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09-27-2011, 12:31 PM
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I understand about sample size. Until the last half of last season, Saad was more highly regarded than McNeil. The sample size over the last few years would perhaps be in the favor of Saad.
I've only seen Saad play twice, and once live. I've seen McNeill play over 15 times, including atleast a dozen live. I really like them both as players but I have to agree that McNeill is the much safer bet, Saad might have more upside.

I saw them against Edmonton here in Saskatoon the other day and McNeill was definitely stronger in the game. Didn't look out of place at all.

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09-27-2011, 01:49 PM
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Come off it, you're like a broken record.
Yup, and I'll keep posting it as long as people keep posting ridiculous stuff like this thread.

It's interesting that every player that was ranked high a year before the draft (Larsson, Couturier, Saad) is touted by HF as a steal.

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09-27-2011, 02:11 PM
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Yup, and I'll keep posting it as long as people keep posting ridiculous stuff like this thread.

It's interesting that every player that was ranked high a year before the draft (Larsson, Couturier, Saad) is touted by HF as a steal.
You really are a broken record. Yes, we all know RNH is your God. But coming from a Rangers fan, it would have been very reasonable for Larsson to go number 1 overall.

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09-27-2011, 02:25 PM
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You really are a broken record. Yes, we all know RNH is your God. But coming from a Rangers fan, it would have been very reasonable for Larsson to go number 1 overall.
Sure, if you don't trust 95%+ of scouts.

It would have been a terrible, need-driven reach if the Oilers took Larsson.

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09-27-2011, 02:30 PM
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Sure, if you don't trust 95%+ of scouts.

It would have been a terrible, need-driven reach if the Oilers took Larsson.
If you cannot see the lunacy in what you are saying, then you really are too much of a homer to have a conversation with. I've seen you all over the boards become absolutely feral if anyone says one negative thing about any Oiler prospects.

I have not seen ONE scout that said anything along the lines of Larsson being a terrible reach by any of the top 4 teams that drafted. Was RNH being projected as a "better" player? Probably, but Larsson was being projected by plenty of scouts to be a potential franchise Dman.

Are you RNH's girlfriend? Why is it so big a deal that anyone says Larsson could be potentially as good a player as RNH?

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09-27-2011, 02:35 PM
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Why does every ****ing thread about a young player needs to turn into a ****ing circle-jerk about which prospect is better???

Saad is having a great preseason and I am personally ecstatic about it. The Hawks did a great job picking him up in the 2nd round and I'm sure a lot of GMs are going to be jealous in a couple of years. With that said, the draft was just 3 months ago, so let's give the kid a break.

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09-27-2011, 03:22 PM
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Why does every ****ing thread about a young player needs to turn into a ****ing circle-jerk about which prospect is better???

Saad is having a great preseason and I am personally ecstatic about it. The Hawks did a great job picking him up in the 2nd round and I'm sure a lot of GMs are going to be jealous in a couple of years. With that said, the draft was just 3 months ago, so let's give the kid a break.
But...but...

How is everyone suppose to know how good RNH is unless Oilers fans post it in every thread?

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If you cannot see the lunacy in what you are saying, then you really are too much of a homer to have a conversation with. I've seen you all over the boards become absolutely feral if anyone says one negative thing about any Oiler prospects.

I have not seen ONE scout that said anything along the lines of Larsson being a terrible reach by any of the top 4 teams that drafted. Was RNH being projected as a "better" player? Probably, but Larsson was being projected by plenty of scouts to be a potential franchise Dman.

Are you RNH's girlfriend? Why is it so big a deal that anyone says Larsson could be potentially as good a player as RNH?
I don't care who drafted who. It's just lunacy when random HF posters somehow think they are superior to scouts. Every time a prospect is at the top a year before the draft, HF falls in love with them and can't understand that they might fall.

That's why I'm posting in this thread. Saad, Larsson, Couturier, etc.. are touted as ridiculous steals because nobody here can understand that other players can establish themselves.

Where the hell did I say Larsson was a reach? He was a sick player at #4 and might have been the best #4 prospect pick in several decades. I don't know where you'd get that from.

The bottom line is that Saad should not have been a top 10 pick. He fell for a reason. People get way too attached to prospects who shine early.

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