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09-26-2011, 08:03 PM
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Can't believe the Sox might pull a Mets and choke their way out of the playoffs.
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and the braves
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I'd prefer having the Braves make the playoffs.

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I wanna see the Braves make it but have to really sweat it out these last couple of games. And hopefully have to play a one game playoff

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I wanna see the Braves make it but have to really sweat it out these last couple of games. And hopefully have to play a one game playoff
I'd love to see the Braves choke, but I really don't want to play the Cardinals, so I like your scenario. All we can do is get ready and try to win our games regardless of the implications though.

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I'd love to see the Braves choke, but I really don't want to play the Cardinals, so I like your scenario. All we can do is get ready and try to win our games regardless of the implications though.
Why don't you want to play the Cardinals? I'm not understanding the trepidation of the Cardinals. The only team that I didn't want to see in the playoffs didn't make it (SF). No other team in the NL scares me even a little bit.

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Why don't you want to play the Cardinals? I'm not understanding the trepidation of the Cardinals. The only team that I didn't want to see in the playoffs didn't make it (SF). No other team in the NL scares me even a little bit.
Garcia, Carpenter, Pujols, Holliday, Berkman...

Do I need to continue?

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I'd rather have the Red Sox and Braves make the playoffs.

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Why don't you want to play the Cardinals? I'm not understanding the trepidation of the Cardinals. The only team that I didn't want to see in the playoffs didn't make it (SF). No other team in the NL scares me even a little bit.
They have a pretty damn good lineup. Their pitchers are likely good enough for a best of five. They're on a bit of a hot stretch here.

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The Cardinals having a winning record against the Phillies this year is another thing.

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They have a pretty damn good lineup. Their pitchers are likely good enough for a best of five. They're on a bit of a hot stretch here.
Nice thing is that Carpenter will be on the mound in their last game, so he won't be ready to go until game 3 at the earliest.

Garcia, in a must win game last night, gives up 4 runs in 4 innings against Houston.

Sorry, I'm just not fearing the Cards, or like I said, anyone in the NL.

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The Cardinals having a winning record against the Phillies this year is another thing.
True, but so do the Nats. I'll play them before the D-Backs.

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Nice thing is that Carpenter will be on the mound in their last game, so he won't be ready to go until game 3 at the earliest.

Garcia, in a must win game last night, gives up 4 runs in 4 innings against Houston.

Sorry, I'm just not fearing the Cards, or like I said, anyone in the NL.
Garcia has been pretty damned good throughout this season and while Carpenter going on the third game is a plus if it goes five games, I'd still be worried about facing their lineup. Pujols, Berkman, Holliday, Furcal has been playing well, Jay is solid. Not to mention you still have to deal with Garcia and Carpenter. I think we can beat them, for sure, but St. Louis poses a threat, whereas Arizona, at least on paper is not all that imposing.

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Nice thing is that Carpenter will be on the mound in their last game, so he won't be ready to go until game 3 at the earliest.

Garcia, in a must win game last night, gives up 4 runs in 4 innings against Houston.

Sorry, I'm just not fearing the Cards, or like I said, anyone in the NL.
This post reminds of this place this time last year. A hot Cards team is a bit scary. They also have arguably the best manager in baseball.

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09-27-2011, 10:04 AM
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This post reminds of this place this time last year. A hot Cards team is a bit scary. They also have arguably the best manager in baseball.
Holy crap...are we agreeing on something???

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This post reminds of this place this time last year. A hot Cards team is a bit scary. They also have arguably the best manager in baseball.
I don't want to see any more compliments to Tony La Russa on this thread. He makes some of the most asinine relief decisions I've ever seen.

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100 Wins, im a little late but that is all.

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I don't want to see any more compliments to Tony La Russa on this thread. He makes some of the most asinine relief decisions I've ever seen.
Yet the man wins baseball games. He's also one of the few managers willing to do demonstrably good things that go against convention (moving your pitcher up in the lineup).

Guy is without a doubt one of the best managers in the history of the league.

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Yet the man wins baseball games. He's also one of the few managers willing to do demonstrably good things that go against convention (moving your pitcher up in the lineup).

Guy is without a doubt one of the best managers in the history of the league.

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He's also one of the few managers willing to do demonstrably good things that go against convention (moving your pitcher up in the lineup).
How can you truly make that determination? If anything, a lot of Sabremetricians would claim that lineup construction is largely irrelevant and overrated. He's gone on record as saying he only does it so Pujols can be his cleanup hitter and bat in the 1st inning (even though he maintains it when Pujols is out). If so, it's only an unconventional lineup for the first 8 hitters (first time "through"), anyway.

It seems like his unconventional decisions usually backfire when he's faced the Phillies, as well.


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LaRussa, while a good coach, is probably the most overrated in the history of baseball.

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How can you truly make that determination? If anything, a lot of Sabremetricians would claim that lineup construction is largely irrelevant and overrated. He's gone on record as saying he only does it so Pujols can be his cleanup hitter and bat in the 1st inning (even though he maintains it when Pujols is out). If so, it's only an unconventional lineup for the first 8 hitters (first time "through"), anyway.

It seems like his unconventional decisions usually backfire when he's faced the Phillies, as well.
...ah, no it's unconventional the entire time. And the idea of getting more men on base in front of the top of your order... is rather smart.

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...ah, no it's unconventional the entire time. And the idea of getting more men on base in front of the top of your order... is rather smart.
The idea to give your pitchers more ABs than your worst position player is rather dumb. Still the effect of batting order is rather small, the most optimal compared to the least optimal comes out to about a 5 game win difference in a season, so most of the time the order hardly ever matters.

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