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09-27-2011, 11:02 AM
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Very true!

It is one of those idiotic truisms that the dinosaurs of hockey like to spew.

The fact is that the little guys tend to absorb very few big hits through the course of a season due to their elusiveness and style of play. It is the bigger players that use their body as a shield to protect the puck that take an enormous cumulative beating and end up limping into the post season.
You're simply wrong and the other poster is right. A large reason why our 5vs5 scoring has been putrid is the lack of size, especially in the top 6, that will likely change this year with Cole and Pacioretty from the beginning.

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Same place the Gomez bashers have disappeared to.
I don't think there were any Gallagher bashers. To ask where they went when they never really existed is a bit odd. As for Gomez, he'll give us plenty to bash over, no doubt about it. He's already used up 1/3 of his goals for the season.

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09-27-2011, 11:08 AM
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Only European players like Avstin can have two-way contracts. Unfair but that's the case.
You mean "only European players like Avstin can play in the AHL before being 20". It has nothing to do with one or two-ways contracts. All rookie contracts are two-ways, no exception.

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09-27-2011, 11:51 AM
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Only European players like Avstin can have two-way contracts. Unfair but that's the case.
That's not a rule

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09-27-2011, 11:51 AM
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You mean "only European players like Avstin can play in the AHL before being 20". It has nothing to do with one or two-ways contracts. All rookie contracts are two-ways, no exception.
Of course.

But only European players, who played no Junior hockey in Canada, are afforded to play on an AHL team before the age of 20. So, they have a two-way contract AHL/NHL before the junior guys.

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09-27-2011, 12:01 PM
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You're simply wrong and the other poster is right. A large reason why our 5vs5 scoring has been putrid is the lack of size, especially in the top 6, that will likely change this year with Cole and Pacioretty from the beginning.
well the other poster said little players are too tierd when comes PO to be productive. Considering Cammy and Gio are our best producers come PO time, given the context he was right and original poster was wrong. As to your statment, it would probably be better if you explained your corelation, like prophet did. (i dont care if youve already explained in somewhere else, if your going to make a correlation, at least give the details of it? especially iff your going to tag a poster as beiong wrong, who actually put some effort in his correlation)

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09-27-2011, 12:06 PM
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Of course.

But only European players, who played no Junior hockey in Canada, are afforded to play on an AHL team before the age of 20. So, they have a two-way contract AHL/NHL before the junior guys.
That's also incorrect.

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09-27-2011, 12:10 PM
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Of course.

But only European players, who played no Junior hockey in Canada, are afforded to play on an AHL team before the age of 20. So, they have a two-way contract AHL/NHL before the junior guys.
What about NCAA players?

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09-27-2011, 12:13 PM
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For a fifth rounder, Gallagher has been an absolute revelation this camp. Guy looks like a top six player down the road.

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09-27-2011, 01:52 PM
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According to the main forums we're running around like **** tards saying this kid is the second coming of Corey Perry

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09-27-2011, 01:54 PM
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In the 2 games he played against the Bruins he was by far the best player for you guys. He seems to have a great offensive up-side and if he didn't hit so many posts he would have 4-5 goals easily. But seriously for a 5th rounder you guys struck gold.

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09-27-2011, 02:10 PM
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According to the main forums we're running around like **** tards saying this kid is the second coming of Corey Perry
Perry's bigger, dirtier and more physical. He's also an NHL star. It's a bad comparison... The only faint similarity I see in their play is their capacity to operate in tight spaces.

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09-27-2011, 07:08 PM
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Ron Hainsey yearssss ago
I remember. And he was sent back. We kept Dykhuis and / or P. Traverse.

It was the beginning of the end for Ron Hainsey in a habs uniform.

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09-27-2011, 07:27 PM
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According to the main forums we're running around like **** tards saying this kid is the second coming of Corey Perry


I think the most anyone is saying he has a chance to be a 20-25 goal second line sniper. Which is still pretty exciting. Anytime you can land a prospect like that outside of the first round, of course you're excited...

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09-27-2011, 07:34 PM
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First of all, lets pretend that what happened last season and this years at camp didn't occurred.

How did this guy fell in the 5th rounds ???

He was coming from a 72gp-41g-40a-81p-111pm, plus at 16 yo he still put 31 points in 52 games. I mean, you look at a guy like Ryan Johansen and he did put 71-24-44-63 and he got drafted 4th overall.

Some will say that he is bigger and they saw more potential in him, it is true, thats is why he got 4th overall. But why a 17yo 40goals scorer slip to the 5th round ?

Didnt the GMs got their lessons whit Fleury,St-louis etc ?

I mean, if the small guy can score 40 goals and 100pm he wont shy away from men when hes going to be 22 years old.

On a side note, he said he uses is size as an advantage and I believe him, just go look some highlight when hes cutting to the net.

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09-27-2011, 08:00 PM
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First of all, lets pretend that what happened last season and this years at camp didn't occurred.

How did this guy fell in the 5th rounds ???

He was coming from a 72gp-41g-40a-81p-111pm, plus at 16 yo he still put 31 points in 52 games. I mean, you look at a guy like Ryan Johansen and he did put 71-24-44-63 and he got drafted 4th overall.

Some will say that he is bigger and they saw more potential in him, it is true, thats is why he got 4th overall. But why a 17yo 40goals scorer slip to the 5th round ?

Didnt the GMs got their lessons whit Fleury,St-louis etc ?

I mean, if the small guy can score 40 goals and 100pm he wont shy away from men when hes going to be 22 years old.

On a side note, he said he uses is size as an advantage and I believe him, just go look some highlight when hes cutting to the net.

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Because he was not recognized as a fast skater. Most of the players under 5'10 are very good skater.

Scouts worries how his tenure in the WHL would translate in the NHL.

While his skating is still a concern, he has improved his quickness in the past year.

But like you said 72gp-41g-40a-81p-111pm it's pretty good.

Congrats to T. Timmins to draft him at 5th round. We didn't have a second round draft pick because of the Tinordi trade. Guess now Gallagher kind of is!!!

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09-27-2011, 08:07 PM
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Because he was not recognized as a fast skater. Most of the players under 5'10 are very good skater.

Scouts worries how his tenure in the WHL would translate in the NHL.

While his skating is still a concern, he has improved his quickness in the past year.

But like you said 72gp-41g-40a-81p-111pm it's pretty good.

Congrats to T. Timmins to draft him at 5th round. We didn't have a second round draft pick because of the Tinordi trade. Guess now Gallagher kind of is!!!
There it is then, because if you look at Corey Locke... Give him some speed and sky is the limit

From what I saw, Gallagher have some similarities whit Cammy in term of skating abilities ; Both don't have the straight top notch speed but men, these guys are very quick and agile.

This pick could be a Subbanesque steal @ 5th overall.

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09-27-2011, 08:37 PM
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There it is then, because if you look at Corey Locke... Give him some speed and sky is the limit

From what I saw, Gallagher have some similarities whit Cammy in term of skating abilities ; Both don't have the straight top notch speed but men, these guys are very quick and agile.

This pick could be a Subbanesque steal @ 5th overall.
Straight line speed is irrelevant when comparing Gallagher to Locke. Locke didn't have Gallagher's quickness in the offensive zone from 0 to the net.

Gallagher can create something out of nothing from the offensive red line or off the boards in heavy traffic. He also has an instinct to drive the net at any price.

Locke's game necessitated more time and space. Locke didn't have the physical attributes to carry his type of game to the NHL level.

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09-28-2011, 08:20 AM
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I think the most anyone is saying he has a chance to be a 20-25 goal second line sniper. Which is still pretty exciting. Anytime you can land a prospect like that outside of the first round, of course you're excited...
Yeah I asked the poster "please link the post where anyone said this as I've been on the habs forum and nobody has even compared Perry to a poor mans version of Perry let alone Perry himself" In fact just like you said people are projecting him to be a potential second liner. Not a 50 goal scoring guy who is much bigger!

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I've seen a lot of bad analysts on TV, and Gaston Therrien is by far the worse I've ever seen or heard. You can already guess what he's going to say even before the game is over. He's a euro-hater too. I'll stop at that before getting an infraction.

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Oh you won't get an infraction for that. The mods are pretty down to earth and I think most of them would agree with you.

Regardless the guy looks like a francophone frankenstein, just put two bolts on his neck (photoshop anyone?) and you'll see what I mean.


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09-28-2011, 08:28 AM
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What was the name of the Q player that Timmins didn't draft instead of Gallagher and Gaston Therrien almost exploded on RIS? Jonathan something?

"Y'ont les mêmes statistiques et ont prend celui au plus petit gabarit!!! Jcomprends pas!!!"

I hate that man with a passion
SOrry to burst your bubble, but I remember vividly that he was raving about Westin instead of Brunelle. Not Gallagher

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That connoisseur would have had the Habs trade up from their #22 slot in 2007 (when they drafted Max Pacioretty) to select Angelo Esposito.
He would have picked him with the McDonagh pick.

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09-28-2011, 12:23 PM
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I really think it was Gallagher. it also took them something like 5 minutes before finding informations on him. Was funny as hell haha.

:Le canadien selectionne ...... Brendan Gallagher ................ Mesdames et messieurs laissez-nous un peu de temps pour trouver de l'info sur ce joueur.
I didn't whatch the draft on RIS but rather on internet (NHL.com) but I would guess that RDS didn't know M. Macmillan before the Habs drafted him. because he was from the BCHL

At least Gallagher was from the WHL

I'm always amazed (in a bad way) on how much RDS doesn't have a clue during the draft.

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If Eller is not ready for opening night, I d give Gallagher a try on the third line.
A line of Andrei - DD - Gallagher should be pretty good offensively, lots of speed, but could get in trouble defensively because they are small. Worth a try thou.

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09-28-2011, 12:41 PM
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I'd give Gallagher some NHL games if Eller, White and perharps Moen are not ready for opening night, if only for the message that it would send to the rest of the prospects.

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It bothers me that we are a contract or two away from the limit and most of you want to give Gallagher one to play 9 games. Offer him one in July when we have many expiring and he actually has a shot of making the team, or will play in Hamilton. It's a shame we can't flat out release Bishop and Lefebvre.

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It bothers me that we are a contract or two away from the limit and most of you want to give Gallagher one to play 9 games. Offer him one in July when we have many expiring and he actually has a shot of making the team, or will play in Hamilton. It's a shame we can't flat out release Bishop and Lefebvre.
Why? If he goes back to juniors after his nine game stint, his contract won't count against the fifty contract limit.

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Why? If he goes back to juniors after his nine game stint, his contract won't count against the fifty contract limit.
Pretty sure Leblanc's counted against us last year.

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