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09-26-2011, 11:24 PM
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Best and worst one year wonders

Who were the best and worst players who were amazing statistically one year and then tailed of and never achieved the same numbers ever again

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09-26-2011, 11:57 PM
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Obvious answers are Nicholls, Maruk and Brown.

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09-27-2011, 01:16 AM
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I couldn't disagree more with Bernie Nichollls, who had seasons of 95, 100, and 97 in the mid 80s with the Kings.

Guy is a legitimate scorer. And one that was clearly helped immensely when Gretzky got there.

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09-27-2011, 01:33 AM
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At least Nicholls, Brown and Maruk were capable of decent seasons before and after. Nicholls had that one 150 point season in '88-'89 (and from what I know DIDN'T play with Gretzky much...), but he was still a capable player who had 95, 97 and 100 point seasons before then, and scored near a point-per-game clip into the mid 1990s. Brown has his 115 point sophomore season paired with Lemieux, but he had an 80 point season after that. Maruk was stuck playing on some awful Seals, Barons and Capitals teams; while he never had over 100 points again after his '81-'82 season he still had better than a point per game every year he played with the Capitals (incl. 90 and 97 point campaigns).

If you want to talk real outliers: Jacques Richard. He was drafted by the Flames in 1972 (the Flames' first ever draft choice) and his best season there was his 43 point second year. He was an alcoholic and Flames management had enough by 1975, shipping him off unceremoniously to Buffalo. He toiled there and was later traded to the Nordiques. In '80-'81 he was paired with a couple of Slovakian brothers named Peter and Anton, and he had 103 points in 78 games.

The next year Marian Stastny came over and took his spot on the top line. Jacques Richard retired in 1983.


On the goaltending side, the best example I can think of is Blaine Lacher. He came out of nowhere (well, actually, Lake Superior State) and became the Bruins' starter in 1995. He finished the lockout shortened season with a 19-11-2 record, 2.41 GAA and .902 SV%. In his second year the wheels fell off; he went 3-5-2 in 12 games with 0.845 SV% and 3.93 GAA. The Bruins brought in Billy Ranford and Lacher was demoted to the AHL and IHL. He didn't fare better there. He appeared in a few games in the 'I' in 1996-97, did horribly, and retired. His pro hockey career lasted less than three seasons.


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bj macdonald

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Maybe Joe Juneau (holds NHL record for most assists by LW), Bobby Carpenter (50+ goals season) and Cheechoo...

I agree that Nicholls and Maruk were decent PPG players with one monster fluke season. But skills were there.

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09-27-2011, 02:30 AM
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Maybe Joe Juneau (holds NHL record for most assists by LW)
Again, if you're looking at ONE fluke season I don't think Juneau really qualifies. He had that 70 assist, 102 point year with Boston, his first full year, but he still had 66 assists (85 points) the next year too, and 43 points in 44 games in the lockout season.

It wasn't until 1996 that his production really dropped off after, from what I remember, many niggling injuries.

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Bobby Carpenter (50+ goals season) and Cheechoo...
Now there're some good examples. Carpenter never came close to his 53 goals and 95 points again. Part of that is due to injury; he only had one full season after his '85-'86 peak. But it is an outlying number. By the end of his career he was solely a defensive specialist with the Devils, lucky to sniff 20 points in a season.

And Cheechoo... yeesh... Amazing how he went from 56 goals in a season to barely-cracking-the-lineup scrub in four years, and not even in the league five years later.

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09-27-2011, 03:26 AM
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I couldn't disagree more with Bernie Nichollls, who had seasons of 95, 100, and 97 in the mid 80s with the Kings.

Guy is a legitimate scorer. And one that was clearly helped immensely when Gretzky got there.
Still difference during his 2nd best and best season is 50%.

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09-27-2011, 04:19 AM
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how about a one year wonder dynamic duo?

Bob MacMillan 71 A, 108 Pts (next best 39 A, 71 Pts)
Guy Chouinard 50 G, 107 Pts (next best 31 G, 83 Pts)

one year aberrations:

Vic Hadfield at age 31: 50 G, 56 A, 106 Pts (next best 31 G, 42 A, 73 Pts)
Jean Pronovost at age 30: 52 G, 52 A, 104 Pts (next best 43 G, 39 A, 75 Pts)

also, Troy Murray 45 G, 54 A, 99 Pts (28,43,71)


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For the worst I will go with the obvious classics and products of Gretzky and Lemieux
Warren Young and Blair or bj? Macdonald.
For best That is a tough Juneau definitely comes to mind as I am a Boston fan............
But then there is the bizzare case of Wayne Babych..He was a one time and one time only 50 goal scoer I suppose he was the Cheechoo of the 80s........Had some speed and a very very good wrist shot but couldnt create anything at all.

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Rob Brown.
44 pts in 51 GP as 19 year old rookie.
115 pts in 68 GP as 20 year old.
80 pts in 80 GP as 21 year old.
58 pts in 69 GP as 22 year old.
then even more decreasing, followed by not even making the league.

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how about a one year wonder dynamic duo?

Bob MacMillan 71 A, 108 Pts (next best 39 A, 71 Pts)
Guy Chouinard 50 G, 107 Pts (next best 31 G, 83 Pts)
Chouinard's 83 pts in 80-81 came in 52 games, he was scoring at a 128 pt pace.
In 81-82 he scored 80 pts in 60 games, 100 pt pace.

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09-27-2011, 07:50 AM
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But then there is the bizzare case of Wayne Babych..He was a one time and one time only 50 goal scoer I suppose he was the Cheechoo of the 80s........Had some speed and a very very good wrist shot but couldnt create anything at all.
He suffered a significant shoulder injury the preseason after his 50-goal campaign, then came back too soon and was ineffective (at age 23). Three or four years later, he was slashed across the leg and suffered a compound fracture with arterial and nerve damage. His career was done at age 28.

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Um, define what's "best" and what's "worst"?

I imagine we've been talking about the "best" one season wonders.....how about the "worst", those players who were consistently good except for one bad aberration of a season.

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And Cheechoo... yeesh... Amazing how he went from 56 goals in a season to barely-cracking-the-lineup scrub in four years, and not even in the league five years later.
First name that came to mind for me. But then again put a kid from pee-wee with Thornton and he is bound to score a lot of goals.

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Warren Young always take the cake for me in these discussions, but Scott Bjustad should get an honorable mention --- 45 goals in 1985-86, while his next highest total was only 11.

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Jean Potvin, brother of Denis, has to be up there.

He actually led all NHL defensemen in points in 1975-76, with 72 points in 78 games. His next best total was 46 points, and his third best was 33 points.

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09-27-2011, 05:26 PM
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Ken Hodge Jr.

30 goals, 29 assists in 70 games in 90-91

9 goals and 19 assists in the rest of his career

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To go way back, what about Punch Broadbent?

http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...broadpu01.html

He was inducted into the HHOF based on leading the league in goals and points in 1921-22, but he never came close again. His next highest finish in points was 10th, which is actually quite unimpressive, as he played back when half the world's talent still played in the Western Leagues.

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Cheechoo is probably the most disparate one, but some others:

Craig Simpson - 87-88 - Pitt / Edm - 56 goals / 90 points / +20. Best season ever at 20 yrs old. Following year he had 35 goals / 76 points / -3. Never really got to close before or after.

Mickey Redmond - Went on a 3 season tear of 42, 52 and 51 goals for Detroit, then was done 2 years later. Looks like injuries. Anyone know the story?

Gary Leeman - Had 2 30+ goal seasons with Toronto, followed by 51 goals in 89-90. Then finished his career 6 years later, never getting higher than 17. Looks like injuries too.

Brian Gionta - 05-06 - NJD - 48 goals. Hasn't broken 30 goals since.

Troy Murray - 84-85 - CHI - 45 goals - 22 yrs old - never broke 30 in his career. Never broke 20 after 88-89. Retired 6 years later after averaging just over 4 goals a season in his 30's. Looks like injuries took their toll.

Mike Krushelnyski - 84-85 - EDM - 43 goals. Never had more than 26 goals at any other point in his career.

Brian Bradley - 92-93 - TB - 42 goals. Had 24 and a 23 goal seasons and never broke 20 at any other point in his 12 year career.

Darcy Rota - 82-83 - 42 goals. Had his next highest the following season with 28, and then was gone by the age of 31. The first 8 years before then he averaged around 20 per season. Injuries?

Ryan Kesler - 41 goals last year. An anomaly?

John Wensink - 78-79 - BOS - 28 goals after scoring 16 the year before. A fearsome fighter / goon with some skill, he averaged around 5 goals a season for the other years of his career.

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09-27-2011, 07:49 PM
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Warren Young, Not the Goalie Wendell Young, he was winger with the pens and scored 40 goals playing with Mario in Lemieux's rookie season

he was 29 years old and made the all rookie team in '84-'85 , he left the pens to sign for the wings where he did score 22 goals but returned to the pens and scored only 8 goals in the next two seasons, he retired in 1988 with 72 goals in 236 NHL Games

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To go way back, what about Punch Broadbent?

http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...broadpu01.html

He was inducted into the HHOF based on leading the league in goals and points in 1921-22, but he never came close again. His next highest finish in points was 10th, which is actually quite unimpressive, as he played back when half the world's talent still played in the Western Leagues.
You've missed his NHA seasons of course. He was third in goals in 1914/15. He also missed three prime seasons to the war. I'm not saying he's Hall worthy, of course.

His big season was helped immensely by Jack Darragh's one-season retirement. Darragh returned the next season, and he and Broadbent had to split the RW minutes, both putting up 15 points; 28 or more points would have ranked fourth in the league if recorded by a single player.

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Brian Gionta - 05-06 - NJD - 48 goals. Hasn't broken 30 goals since.
This one's about the PP. He had 23 ES goals that year, and has others seasons of 21 and 20 ESGs, and also 18 in 61 games.

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This one's about the PP. He had 23 ES goals that year, and has others seasons of 21 and 20 ESGs, and also 18 in 61 games.

Yes, 2005-06 was the season of the great crackdown, when a small player like Gionta could stand in front of the net and nobody was allowed to touch him.

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Steve Penney - he was the Habs rookie sensation in 1985. Got injured the next year and some guy named Patrick Roy took his place.

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