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09-29-2011, 11:48 AM
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Greening/Filatov-Spezza-Filatov/Zibanejad
Michalek-DaCosta-Alfredsson
Foligno-Regin-Condra
Smith/Greening-Konopka/Smith-Neil

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09-29-2011, 11:50 AM
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09-29-2011, 02:32 PM
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Zibanejad has been amazing this pre-season but i rather have ottawa not burn a year on his contract...its not like we need to make the playoffs right away and then get knocked out first round what's the point.

Forwards
Greening - Spezza - Filatov
Michalek - Da Costa- Alfredsson
Foligno - Smith/Regin - Butler
Condra - Konopka- Neil

Cowen - Karlsson
Gonchar - Carkner/Kuba
Phillips - Lee

Rundblad can learn the defensive game in the AHL its better for him that is if he agrees to go down.....i really wish we could get rid of Kuba some way....cuz then i'd say keep Rundblad up but w/e i rather just have carkner around for toughness love watching the guy fight

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09-29-2011, 05:51 PM
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Zibanejad has been amazing this pre-season but i rather have ottawa not burn a year on his contract...
We'll just play him for 9 games then.

Also, Phillips-Lee is looking like a pretty good pairing to start the year.

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09-29-2011, 08:10 PM
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Opening night roster....

Michalek - Spezza - Butler
Filatov - Zibby - Alfie
Foligno - Smith - Condra
Greening - Konopka - Neil

Cowen - Karlsson
Philllips - Lee
Gonchar - Carkner

Anderson/Auld

Injured - Winny, Regin
Healthy Scratches - Kuba

Available callups - Runblad, DaCosta, O'Brien, Borocop, Gryba

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09-29-2011, 08:32 PM
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....preseason is over

My Final Lineup Prediction for Opening Night 2011 @ the Joe

Foligno-Spezza-Filatov
Greening-Zibanejad-Alfie
Michalek-Da Costa-Butler
Condra-Smith-Neil

Rundblad-Karlsson
Cowen-Gonchar
Phillips-Lee

Anderson

*pending Regin's injury

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09-29-2011, 08:45 PM
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For me its this:

Greening -Spezza-Butler (Filatov isn't working as much as I wanted it too, this line worked last year)
Filatov-Zibanejad-Alfie (very creative line)
Michalek-Da Costa-Condra (Da Costa and Michalek found chemistry, Condra is a smart player)
Foligno-Smith-Neil (I would trade Foligno, dont like his game, O think he still has quite a bit of value to other teams)
13/14F - Konopka, Winchester

Rundblad-Karlsson
Cowen-Gonchar
Phillips-Lee
7/8D - Carkner, Kuba

Anderson

*Regin could take Da Costa's spot but I liked Da Costa more.

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09-30-2011, 09:23 AM
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Greening -Spezza-Butler (Filatov isn't working as much as I wanted it too, this line worked last year)
I totally agree with this Filatov has flashes but playing with spezza hasn't worked out as well as i thought....maybe have spezza butler/Alfie and filatov on the PP?

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09-30-2011, 10:09 AM
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Have to say having two playmakers with Greening is a Risk. Spezza says he'll shoot more - but that's not his strength.

Butler hasn't done much, but he's not been paired with Spezza either. He is our only sniper at this point. Still curious why Petersson didn't get a sniff all Camp. Maybe he asked coach's daughter out or something.

Greening has size and speed and pretty decent hands.

Greening - Spezza - Alfredsson as line 1

Michalek - DaCosta - Filatov as line 2

Regin - Zibanejad - Condra as our energy line

Foligno - Smith - Neil as our shut down line

Konopka wins face offs and keep the other team honest so he slots in when needed.

Butler goes to AHL at least for 9 games (I assume we can do this) while the Zibanejad/DaCosta experiment is assessed. If not he may have to play with Spezza and Filatov goes down with Alfie sliding

If Regin is not ready, Foligno slides up, Smith Left and Konopka in

Phillips - Lee as our shut down

Cowen - Karlsson as breakout 1

Borowiecki - Gonchar as breakout 2

Carkner keeps them honest

Rundblad goes to AHL for 9 as Borowiecki is evaluated

Kuba is traded or waived (we can carry it all this year)

Anderson (do we add the 2nd s now)
Auld

Lehner to the AHL

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09-30-2011, 10:16 AM
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Expectation is that Regin will be healthy, so this is what I would do.

Greening-Spezza-Filatov
Regin-Da Costa-Michalek
Condra-Zibanejad-Alfie
Foligno-Smith-Neil
Winchester
Konopka

Cowen-Gonchar
Kuba-Karlsson (short leash with Kuba)
Lee-Phillips
Carkner

Anderson
Auld

**Anyone not on the roster has been sent to Bingo. Guys in bold we should be patient with (9 games or so), before making final decisions and putting Winny/Konopka into the lineup.

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09-30-2011, 11:52 AM
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People need to keep in mind the 23 man roster limit. With Winchester on IR that opens up 1 extra roster spot, but there still isn't enough room on the roster for all of Zibanejad, Filatov, Da Costa, Cowen and Rundblad. We'd have to waive one of Butler, Greening or Condra and send them to the minors to make room for all the rookies, and theres no way those guys will make it through waivers. Waiving Butler would be very similar to Florida waiving Grabner last season, and look how that turned out.

This is how I see things playing out:
-Cowen has most certainly earned his way into the starting lineup
-Zibanejad has the upper hand mostly because if he doesn't make the team, he goes back to Europe for the whole season. We can easily send Da Costa to Bingo while we see if Zibanejad can handle regular season play. If we pick Da Costa over Zibanejad, we're stuck with that choice for the whole season.
-I believe Kuba will be given the chance to re-establish himself at the start of the year, although his play this preseason has been once again underwhelming. He'll be on a very short leash, and I wouldn't be surprised if we payed him to play in Europe this season. I'm sure Kuba would rather play in the Czech league than the AHL, and the team would likely have no problem accomodating that request. That being said, I do think Kuba will at least be given ~10 games to find his groove, so Rundblad will likely start the season in the AHL. I doubt he finishes the season there though, he's improving rapidly.
-Filatov has impressed me, and we have a desperate need for skill on the wings. His speed fits Maclean's system to a T, and he's worked very hard defensively. If it was up to me, he'd be in the starting lineup, although his lack of finish might hold him back. They might want him to head to the AHL to get a little more confidence offensively, but like Rundblad, I doubt he finishes the season there.

Here's my best guess at a starting lineup:
Michalek - Spezza - Filatov
Greening - Zibanejad - Alfredsson
Foligno - Regin - Condra
Smith - Konopka - Neil
Butler

Cowen - Gonchar
Kuba - Karlsson
Phillips - Lee
Carkner

Anderson
Auld

IR - Winchester

Line combos are still very up in the air, but I'd be pretty confident at least in those 12 starting forwards. Butler will get his chance when one of the top 12 get hurt/play poorly, but at this point, he deserves to sit and needs the wakeup call.

P.S. I can't emphasize this enough, but Michalek is NOT a natural RWer. He was drafter as a LWer, played in San Jose as a LWer, and has played his entire tenure here as a LWer. I have no idea how this rumor got started, but it's entirely false. See this: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=951389

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09-30-2011, 01:27 PM
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....preseason is over

My Final Lineup Prediction for Opening Night 2011 @ the Joe

Foligno-Spezza-Filatov
Greening-Zibanejad-Alfie
Michalek-Da Costa-Butler
Condra-Smith-Neil

Rundblad-Karlsson
Cowen-Gonchar
Phillips-Lee

Anderson

*pending Regin's injury

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09-30-2011, 01:29 PM
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K-Daug on waivers. I can see a couple teams interested in him, too,

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Opening Day Line Up

Greening - Spezza - Alfredson
Filatov - Zibanejad - Michalek
Foligno - Regin - Butler
konopka - Z. Smith - Neil/Condra/Winchester

- Condra replaces Konopka against teams that are less physical or as an injury replacement.
- Winchester could replace Butler if he doesn't start scoring soon.
- Da Costa replaces Regin if he can't start the season or will replace him if he gets injured again.

Cowen - Gonchar
Kuba - Karlsson
Phillips - Lee/Carkner

- Rundblad starts the yr in Bingo & Carkner replaces Lee when he is healthy & against tougher teams.
- Once Kuba is traded Rundblad will replace him & play with Gonchar while Cowen could play with Karlsson.
- if Carkner or Lee are traded it's possible that Gryba or Boroweicki could replace one of them.

Anderson - Auld

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The team would be so much worse off if we replace Lee with Carkner, Gryba, or Boroweicki, regardless of how tough the competition is. I don't think Lee will be traded, I think he will solidify himself as a future Phillips replacement on this team.

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K-Daug on waivers. I can see a couple teams interested in him, too,
He clears imo

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I don't think you have to worry about any member of the Sens ever making any decesions based on this message board.....ever.
I said at the beginning of last year we should go after Anderson and Auld or Harding.

I guess that proves you wrong

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....preseason is over

My Final Lineup Prediction for Opening Night 2011 @ the Joe

Foligno-Spezza-Filatov
Greening-Zibanejad-Alfie
Michalek-Da Costa-Butler
Condra-Smith-Neil

Rundblad-Karlsson
Cowen-Gonchar
Phillips-Lee

Anderson

*pending Regin's injury
You want to ensure us selecting first overall do you? No way should Foligno be on the first line. ever. That should be painfully clear by now.

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your not very happy eh

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Bahahaha would totally have the same reaction as Sups if that was the starting lineup Oct 7th.

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Here's my opening night lineup:

Greening-Spezza-Filatov
Michalek-Zibanejad-Alfredsson
Foligno-Regin-Neil
Smith-Konopka-Condra

scratches - Butler, Winchester (IR)

Cowen-Gonchar
Kuba-Karlsson
Phillips-Rundblad

scratches - Carkner, Lee

Anderson
Auld

I don't see the Sens cutting Rundblad - I think they'll give him a few games to see how quickly he can adapt to the NHL game, and go from there. Eventually, Kuba or Lee has to be moved - Kuba being the preferred option, of course.

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You're not very happy eh

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My reasoning behind putting Nicky on the top line is because MacLean kept playing him with Spezza from the end of the 2nd and the entire 3rd period last night. Figured he might have seen something from them that no one else did.

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Spezza needs to step up his game cause I don't see him clicking with anyone in the pre-season.

Zibanejad was clicking with Alfredsson

Michalek was clicking with Da Costa

Michalek was not clicking with Zibanejad

Da Costa was clicking with Filatov

Regin has clicked with Spezza.

Filatov and Zibanejad have been iffy with Spezza.

Regin-Spezza-Michalek
Zibanejad-Da Costa-Alfredsson
Foligno-Smith-Condra
Greening-Kenopka-Neil

Cowen-Gonchar
Phillips-Karlsson
Lee-Rundblad

Anderson
Auld

Every line has grit, 2 way capability and offensive ability.

Most importantly, some sort of chemistry.

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