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09-29-2011, 03:40 PM
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That size with his speed can be LETHAL. Imagine if he puts everything altogether! he needs to have a big year in college, for sure. Hope we see him legitimately competing for a spot on the big club next year.

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Kreider isn't a "dangler". He never was and was never projected to be one.

He's a straight forward, north-south player, that goes to the net.

He absolutely holds on to the puck, when the situation calls for it.

What he shouldn't do, is screw around with it and turn it over. He doesn't do that. When he has the puck, he's looking to go straight to the net or looking for an open teammate.

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09-29-2011, 05:21 PM
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He was drafted at 6'2 205 and is now 6'3 225.

Are we certain that he's grown this much and it's not just "creative accounting"?

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Kreider isn't a "dangler". He never was and was never projected to be one.

He's a straight forward, north-south player, that goes to the net.

He absolutely holds on to the puck, when the situation calls for it.

Good. Danglers make you get up off your seat, and then make you spit on the floor as they turn over the puck.

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Good. Danglers make you get up off your seat, and then make you spit on the floor as they turn over the puck.
Yeah, especially that Pavel Datsyuk and that Jaromir Jagr. I just HATE having guys like that on my team.

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Yeah, especially that Pavel Datsyuk and that Jaromir Jagr. I just HATE having guys like that on my team.

Those are superstar talents. When a second liner begins to dangle, he is a turnover machine more often than not. Even Kovalev was a turnover machine into his mid20s.

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09-29-2011, 07:22 PM
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I like the way Kreider plays.

Simple kind of game.

Torts is going to love the kid, IMO.

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Those are superstar talents. When a second liner begins to dangle, he is a turnover machine more often than not. Even Kovalev was a turnover machine into his mid20s.
Kris Versteeg is a good example of this. He's not a very good hockey player because he's not as talented as he thinks he is

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09-29-2011, 09:03 PM
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Those are superstar talents. When a second liner begins to dangle, he is a turnover machine more often than not. Even Kovalev was a turnover machine into his mid20s.
Well that's a different matter. You're not a dangler if you can't actually dangle.

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Goal by St. Croix from 2 nights ago, :50 second mark


http://whl.ca/video/index/id/1317329658

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Good article about some impact players in college next year. Kreider is on the list.

http://www.uscho.com/2011/09/30/ten-...s-for-2011-12/

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interesting remarks in that article:

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“He’s been hidden behind others,” an opposing coach said about Kreider. “But he should be counted on as a leader this season.”
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However, considering he has been buried on a veteran-laden Boston College team for each of his first two seasons

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Has there been an update on Jesper Fasth's concussion?

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Miller had a goal (3rd period GW) and an assist as Plymouth beat Ottawa 3-2 in OHL action tonight.

Hopefully there are highlights up soon.

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09-30-2011, 09:19 PM
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Miller is probably going to dominate Juniors.

The late game winner doesn't surprise me, either.

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"J.T. Miller’s first Ontario Hockey League goal at 11:45 of the third period snapped a 2-2 tie and the Plymouth Whalers came from behind to defeat the Ottawa 67’s, 3-2, in an Ontario Hockey League game played Friday night at Compuware Arena."

I'm really starting to get a good feeling about this kid. In the photo on the Whalers site he's right in that dirty area near the crease. Exactly where you should be if you want to win.

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JT Miller has a great chance to play in the WJC this year.

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10-01-2011, 08:25 AM
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This could be our lineup in 2 years:

UFA/trade - Richards - Gaborik
PACK LINE
Kreider - Stepan - Fasth/Thomas
Boyle - Lindberg - Miller
Prust, Hagelin/Bourque/goon

Staal - Girardi/ev trade PMD
McD - McIlraith
MDZ/Erixon - Sauer
VET

VERY EXCITING
If 3-5 guys pan out as hoped/predicted and we add a little via trades, we look extremely strong...

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if Brian Boyle is still a 3rd/4th liner, id bet you anything hes moved at that point for cheaper internal options. imho Boyle needs to keep improving, put up 20-30 goals this season, and be consistent throughout for him to have a job in 2 years.

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10-01-2011, 08:48 AM
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Frankly, the only two current forward prospects I have any confidence making the Rangers for a sustainable period of time are Kreider and Miller. The rest are all trade fodder, AFAIC.

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10-01-2011, 08:53 AM
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Frankly, the only two current forward prospects I have any confidence making the Rangers for a sustainable period of time are Kreider and Miller. The rest are all trade fodder, AFAIC.
I agree.

Been saying that for a while.

They are the only two that IMO are definitely going to be NHL regulars with the Rangers. And be considered core members.

I like Fasth a lot, too, though.

And feel Yogan will be an NHL player, either with us or someone else.

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I agree.

Been saying that for a while.

They are the only two that IMO are definitely going to be NHL regulars with the Rangers. And be considered core members.

I like Fasth a lot, too, though.

And feel Yogan will be an NHL player, either with us or someone else.
This is not to say that I don't think Thomas, Bourque, Hagelin, Lindberg and the rest won't be NHL players. But, you've got a young core already. It is also questionable that, with the signing of Richards, the Rangers keep all three of Boyle, AA and Stepan., especially if they believe center is Miller's best position. You also have a relatively young player in Prust as a key contributor. At some point, some these kids are going to be used to add a piece if the Rangers believe they are in a position to make noise in the playoffs.

Right now, aside from the players on the current NHL roster, they only three prospects I would consider off limits are Kreider, Miller and McIlrath.

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This is not to say that I don't think Thomas, Bourque, Hagelin, Lindberg and the rest won't be NHL players. But, you've got a young core already. It is also questionable that, with the signing of Richards, the Rangers keep all three of Boyle, AA and Stepan., especially if they believe center is Miller's best position. You also have a relatively young player in Prust as a key contributor. At some point, some these kids are going to be used to add a piece if the Rangers believe they are in a position to make noise in the playoffs.

Right now, aside from the players on the current NHL roster, they only three prospects I would consider off limits are Kreider, Miller and McIlrath.
I agree.

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If you have too many players, you can do a 2-for-1 or 3-for-1.

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This is not to say that I don't think Thomas, Bourque, Hagelin, Lindberg and the rest won't be NHL players. But, you've got a young core already. It is also questionable that, with the signing of Richards, the Rangers keep all three of Boyle, AA and Stepan., especially if they believe center is Miller's best position. You also have a relatively young player in Prust as a key contributor. At some point, some these kids are going to be used to add a piece if the Rangers believe they are in a position to make noise in the playoffs.

Right now, aside from the players on the current NHL roster, they only three prospects I would consider off limits are Kreider, Miller and McIlrath.
I'll give a +1 to this. We've been stockpiling for years. Sooner, rather than later, it's' going to be time to make a move or moveS.

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