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10-01-2011, 04:10 PM
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Also the only d pairing i'm not sold on is our third one, again. Our top 4 if Staal and Sauer are healthy is perfectly fine.

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10-01-2011, 04:12 PM
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Bickell? Really? I would've kept up Bell.

We kept Bell lol

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10-01-2011, 04:17 PM
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We kept Bell lol
Oh woops.

Well good, then. Bickell will be the 7th d-man.

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10-01-2011, 04:22 PM
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Under normal circumstances, you have Staal, Girardi, Sauer and McD eat up the bulk of the minutes... leaving the 5 and 6 D with 10-15 minutes... I really think Eminger/Bell/Bickel could handle these minutes if they make defending their priority...

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10-01-2011, 04:27 PM
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This will be the first time in... a long time that the Rangers go into the regular season with no rookies on the roster. I'm not counting Bickel because he is injury insurance and will not be in the starting 6.
Which is fine, considering how young our team is.

McDonagh, Sauer, Stepan in their sophomore years.

MDZ in what should be his junior year, but considering he didn't play so many games in the NHL it can't really be considered that.

MZA in what will hopefully be his first full NHL season.

Hell, Erixon will possibly play in the NHL this year if he pulls a McDonagh (knock on wood.)

Everybody was clamoring to put youth in the lineup, but the fact is the youth is there and we didn't need to put in rookies just for the sake of putting in rookies.

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10-01-2011, 04:34 PM
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I thought McIlrath was better than both Bickell and Bell. Considering the uncertainty with Staal, I would have kept him up longer.

Bourque was also very good and if the team were thinner on bottom 6 wingers he'd probably make it but thats an area that NYR has a lot of depth.

Erixon isn't going to go anywhere. I'm sure Torts told him that they're going to give him every opportunity to come up like McDonagh did and he wants to be a Ranger.

The whale pack should be pretty good this year from the looks of it.

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10-01-2011, 04:34 PM
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I thought Erixon was decent in the first couple of preseason games but he definitely tailed off recently.
Yeah, you gotta wonder what the people who say that he has been bad all preseason expected???

I don't think he was good last night. The Philly game got to him. But he, from what I expected from him, was great against NJD. Tremendously poised with the puck etc.

Given that the kid mostly played with very inexperienced partners; that he is very young and still pretty raw, I think his camp overall has been positive.

And the fact that our blueline is a mess is NOT helping him. Like if we had 5 very solid experienced Ds, but one big hole, he probably would have stuck. Now we have a bunch of holes, and as thing could be messy for a while it's just better for him to start in the AHL.

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10-01-2011, 04:51 PM
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So with Staal likely out atleast the first two games D may be Del Zotto, Girardi, McDonaugh, Sauer, Bell, Eminger, Bickel to start they yr?

Highly doubt that. Make a move Sather
Why on earth would you make a move for two games?

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10-01-2011, 04:54 PM
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Why on earth would you make a move for two games?
I was thinking the same exact thing

Unless we want to get into the "every point matters" argument, Staal missing the first 2 games of the season does not warrant going out and trading for a dman...

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10-01-2011, 04:55 PM
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This will be the first time in... a long time that the Rangers go into the regular season with no rookies on the roster..
MZA & McDonagh with only half a season of NHL experience under their belt, so they're more or less still rookies out there.....

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10-01-2011, 05:03 PM
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Why on earth would you make a move for two games?
it's not for two games it's for the yr. You want Eminger playing full time? Can't just assume Erixon will pull a McD

Sure I can live with Bell for a few games if Staal is indeed ready to play soon

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it's not for two games it's for the yr. You want Eminger playing full time? Can't just assume Erixon will pull a McD

Sure I can live with Bell for a few games if Staal is indeed ready to play soon

i made the argument earlier in the thread. there's no reason to hit the panic button right now.

we brought in Bell to see what he could do - now let's see what he can do. If it doesnt work out - whatever. Got to give a chance to those guys that you've already put trust in.

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it's not for two games it's for the yr. You want Eminger playing full time? Can't just assume Erixon will pull a McD

Sure I can live with Bell for a few games if Staal is indeed ready to play soon
IF Staal is only out for the 2 European games there's no need to do anything...YET. Perhaps we can pick up a 3rd pair guy on waivers who can hold down the fort for a while. I'm simply saying there's no point in rushing into making deals when we haven't played any games that count yet.

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10-01-2011, 05:08 PM
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Under normal circumstances, you have Staal, Girardi, Sauer and McD eat up the bulk of the minutes... leaving the 5 and 6 D with 10-15 minutes... I really think Eminger/Bell/Bickel could handle these minutes if they make defending their priority...
I don't understand why you want to put so much pressure on our top 4 so early into the season. There's a playoffs you know...

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10-01-2011, 05:20 PM
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If they Rangers can keep their top 4 defensemen off the power play for most of the season, they should be able to get pretty heavy use at even strength.

I'm certain Del Zotto will be a point man and Richards will be another.

There is a chance Wolski will man the point with Richards and if not him, than Stepan or Zuccarello might do it.

That leaves really only one slot left that could reasonably be held by anyone, including Bell or Eminger.

I like Staal and Girardi, but they are mediocre at the very best on the power play. Sauer has little to no offense in his game and McDonagh is still developing that aspect of his game.

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10-01-2011, 05:33 PM
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Yeah... If Avery doesn't make the team then there is some serious ********* going on in the Rangers organization.
Or maybe, just maybe, there is another, off-ice reason why the Rangers wouldn't want him around.

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10-01-2011, 05:34 PM
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I don't understand why you want to put so much pressure on our top 4 so early into the season. There's a playoffs you know...
if you go to NHL.com and see the ice times for the last seasons, you'll clearly see the divide, first pairing minutes, second pairing minutes and third pairing minutes...

I have faith in Bell, not so much in Eminger and Bickel is a darkhorse

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10-01-2011, 05:39 PM
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Nothing shocking about the cuts.

The Avery/Christensen decision should be interesting.

I hope Eminger, Bickel, and Bell can hold down the fort until Staal (and Sauer?) return(s).

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If they Rangers can keep their top 4 defensemen off the power play for most of the season, they should be able to get pretty heavy use at even strength.

I'm certain Del Zotto will be a point man and Richards will be another.

There is a chance Wolski will man the point with Richards and if not him, than Stepan or Zuccarello might do it.

That leaves really only one slot left that could reasonably be held by anyone, including Bell or Eminger.

I like Staal and Girardi, but they are mediocre at the very best on the power play. Sauer has little to no offense in his game and McDonagh is still developing that aspect of his game.
KEY concept for this season... if you have Del Zotto as #5 or #6, use him, PP player, forward on the other point.

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10-01-2011, 05:40 PM
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Or maybe, just maybe, there is another, off-ice reason why the Rangers wouldn't want him around.
From what I hear, Avery is not a cancer in the lockerroom. He may take stupid penalties from time to time and that may piss off the team cuz they're trying to win, but other than that, he is a good teammate and loves playing here.

As long as Avery is the good Avery, as in forechecking, working his ass off, drawing penalties, and mind ****ing other players without taking penalties, he is a good teammate and someone you want on the ice.

If EC makes the cut over him, I'll throw up.

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i made the argument earlier in the thread. there's no reason to hit the panic button right now.

we brought in Bell to see what he could do - now let's see what he can do. If it doesnt work out - whatever. Got to give a chance to those guys that you've already put trust in.
u are likely right. If Staal will be fine for when they get back to NA then whatever Bell has some NHL experience

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Del Zotto has to get a lot of PP time. If they want him to develop into the player they want him to be, its imperative that he get a lot of Power Play time.

Id like to see:

Stepan. Dubinsky. Gaborik
Del Zotto. Richards

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10-01-2011, 05:48 PM
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Del Zotto has to get a lot of PP time. If they want him to develop into the player they want him to be, its imperative that he get a lot of Power Play time.

Id like to see:

Stepan. Dubinsky. Gaborik
Del Zotto. Richards
I'd like that.

Callahan-Stepan-Gaborik
Del Zotto- Richards

isn't that bad.

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we're missing a bomber from the blue line...

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Keep Avery. If/when WW disappoints, could see Avery in that spot (yes, for real) or Boyle moved there with Rupp centering a fourth line with Avery and Prust.

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