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09-15-2011, 10:14 AM
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None of the kids are truly safe coming into camp this season.

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09-15-2011, 10:36 AM
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I think Geoffrion has more to gain from going to Milwaukee for a bit longer. I think there's still growth in his offensive game that he's more likely to realize playing on the first line down there, as opposed to getting the Barry Trotz patented "rookie treatment" on the fourth line with Zack Stortini.

Also, I believe Halischuk has to clear waivers, where as Geoffrion does not.
agreed 100%. I believe Halischuck should be on the starting roster over Geoffrion and Smith. He proved he is ready already.

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09-15-2011, 11:06 AM
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Arent Smith and Geoffrion both centers?

If one of them was a wing, I'd say let them play on a line together in milwaukee and develop some chemistry

but if one is going to be on the top line(in Milwaukee) and the other isnt, then let Geoffrion stay up here, since he has shown he can hack it..


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09-19-2011, 11:22 PM
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The golden boy played with the big boys this evening in South Florida. Any word about his play??? We know one thing, he didn't score.

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09-26-2011, 02:43 PM
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So, what's the latest on this guy anyways?

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09-26-2011, 02:51 PM
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Looks great from what I've seen. He will throw pucks at the net from absolutely anywhere on the ice. He set up a goal simply by shooting the puck on net from the boards with his back to the goalie. We definitely need a guy who will shoot the puck

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09-26-2011, 03:59 PM
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Looks great from what I've seen. He will throw pucks at the net from absolutely anywhere on the ice. He set up a goal simply by shooting the puck on net from the boards with his back to the goalie. We definitely need a guy who will shoot the puck
This. We could really use a shoot-first guy.

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Per my teammates, I like to shoot the puck...A LOT. Too bad I'm not NHL material.

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10-01-2011, 11:33 PM
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Trotz on whether Craig Smith is getting sent to Milwaukee: "No, no, he’s not."
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10-01-2011, 11:47 PM
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Right on!

Not sure how long he sticks, but it's great that he's getting a serious look.

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Wow! I just saw the Smith goal what a shot the kid has that it factor

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10-02-2011, 12:27 AM
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Wow! I just saw the Smith goal what a shot the kid has that it factor
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I have been dying to see

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So due to Smith being a scorer/shooter will he be started in the top 6 or bottom 6?

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10-02-2011, 02:18 PM
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So due to Smith being a scorer/shooter will he be started in the top 6 or bottom 6?
I think you have to play him on the top six. We have guys we could put in the bottom six if Trotz wanted to use O'Reilly as a top six center. I think we will see Smith taking Fisher's spot on Friday night.

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I just hope we don't have overly optimistic and unrealistic expectations of him...

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I just hope we don't have overly optimistic and unrealistic expectations of him...
I don't. I'll be happy with a goal every other game and an assist inbetween.

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I just hope we don't have overly optimistic and unrealistic expectations of him...
I don't. If he were to play 82 games I'd project him for 18g, 22a for 40 points at best, but I think he'll spend some time in Milwaukee this season...

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I'd expect very similar numbers to Joe Pavelski in his first season pro (2006-07)...

http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=69898

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I just hope we don't have overly optimistic and unrealistic expectations of him...
50g in 20gp, blindfolded .... no pressure.

Realistically, around 15 goals if he plays 70 or more games with the big club which is rather average for a rookie "scorer".

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50g in 20gp, blindfolded .... no pressure.

Realistically, around 15 goals if he plays 70 or more games with the big club which is rather average for a rookie "scorer".
It might be average in terms of league wide, but I'd say that was a good year for a team that spreads around the offense as much as the Preds do...

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It might be average in terms of league wide, but I'd say that was a good year for a team that spreads around the offense as much as the Preds do...
It would be Adam Hall-like. Our usual two or three 20+ goal scorers and a horde (ok, 5ish) around 15 goals. That would put him in the top seven or eight goal scorers on the team if he played relatively full season.

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It would be Adam Hall-like. Our usual two or three 20+ goal scorers and a horde (ok, 5ish) around 15 goals. That would put him in the top seven or eight goal scorers on the team if he played relatively full season.
Which is fine for a rookie coming out of college where the season is around 30 games and you play only on weekends. Look at Joe Pavelski's numbers and growth thereafter. If Smith can turn into a scorer like Pavelski over the next few years I'll be ecstatic!

Rookie seasons are supposed to be relatively average when your playing on a veteran laden team. As you prove yourself you earn more ice time and responsibility. Only then are you counted on to challenge for the team scoring lead...

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Which is fine for a rookie coming out of college where the season is around 30 games and you play only on weekends. Look at Joe Pavelski's numbers and growth thereafter. If Smith can turn into a scorer like Pavelski over the next few years I'll be ecstatic!

Rookie seasons are supposed to be relatively average when your playing on a veteran laden team. As you prove yourself you earn more ice time and responsibility. Only then are you counted on to challenge for the team scoring lead...
Concur ... but I wouldn't get upset if he played an entire season like his Worlds appearance.

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Which is fine for a rookie coming out of college where the season is around 30 games and you play only on weekends. Look at Joe Pavelski's numbers and growth thereafter. If Smith can turn into a scorer like Pavelski over the next few years I'll be ecstatic!

Rookie seasons are supposed to be relatively average when your playing on a veteran laden team. As you prove yourself you earn more ice time and responsibility. Only then are you counted on to challenge for the team scoring lead...
I haven't seen Smith play... Just using stat comparisons, Joe Pavlaski is our "best hope" scenario for Smith. He scored 56 points in 43 games for Wisconsin as a 21/22 year old. Smith scored 43 in 41 the same age.

Most NHL "scorers" who played college hockey absolutely lit up the college scene as a Freshman/Sophomore. Healtley scored 56p in the 38g as a freshman. Kessel scored 51 in 39 as a freshman. St. Louis scored 71 points in 35 games as sophomore (and yes, went undrafted).

Just statistically speaking, it would be a surprise if he turned in a decent NHL scorer based on his college stats as a 22 year old. But let's hope he becomes an exception to the rule... gawd knows we need it.

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I just hope we don't have overly optimistic and unrealistic expectations of him...
As others have said, if he can play between 70-82 games in Nashville I think he will put up something close to what Wilson had last season. I think his linemates will be a bit better than what Wilson had to work with, though, so I can see his assist total being a bit higher. 35-40pts isn't unreasonable for the guy. With that said, I'm with SLake. He made the team for two reasons: 1) he earned it with his play in preseason and how he worked in camp, and 2) Fisher is hurt so there was a spot for him. Unless he comes in playing so well that Poile can't justify sending him down simply because everyone else is waiver eligible I think he'll end up in Milwaukee when Fish comes back. On the flip side, if Bergfors doesn't work out then Smith could take his spot, and Bergfors can be a perma-scratch or waived.

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