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10-04-2011, 10:06 AM
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Booo.

I was looking forward to another year of Avery torturing Fatso and Kovalchuk.

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Truth is... Christensen showed up for more games last year than Avery did.

Sean showed up against the Stars, maybe a couple other games. He had a better preseason but apparently that was not enough.

But Avery has had his own serious consistency issues, so lets not pretend we're talking about mr. ironman effort here.

As a fan my issues with Sean have been

a. LOVE him when he's ON

b. but he disappears for 10 game stretches

c. he gets hurt a lot

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10-04-2011, 10:07 AM
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Nobody in the farm can play as well as him yet. And we have cap
Space.
See but that is okay. We are talking 5 game stints. Let Hagelin play 5 games and send him back down. Let him get his feet wet. If he is overwhelmed send him back down. Same goes for Deveaux and Bourque and Marchessault, etc.

Sometimes a player will surprise and do well and you can keep him up. That's how teams slowly integrate youth. Its easier to see where a prospect stands when they play against NHL competition with NHL teammates.

Callahan did it. Dubinsky did it. Girardi did it. Sauer did it.....You get the point.

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Darren Dreger
Hearing (NYR)Weise is likely to get claimed. Fights, can skate..good hockey sense.
I could see Burke nabbing him. He's a total Burke player- likes to hit, fight, get his hands dirty, and not much talent. He'd fit right in on Toronto.

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10-04-2011, 10:08 AM
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Wow. I "really liked" Torts. This move just put me down to the "like" status. Pathetic.

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I could understand this decision if EC outplayed Avery, but he didn't. At all.

They need to find a better spare forward than Erik Christensen. Makes me sick that he'll be on this team for 3 years when he should have just been a placeholder for Richards.

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Hm, somewhat surprising. I guess it's a cap move and also based in large part off of his play last season. Ah well, adios Sean.

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10-04-2011, 10:10 AM
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I'm OK with putting him on waivers....after he gets his shot and proves he's not worthy. It seems the decision was really made before camp even started.

This was not handled well. Regardless of the player or what you feel about him. The organization prides itself on being classy and doing things accordingly. I'm really disappointed in them right now.

Christenson, for his part has proven that he is a non presence. I don't get how he makes this team.

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Christensen did have a sick goal earlier.

What it must have boiled down to is cap hits. Avery's is more of a hindrance than Christensen's.

Either that, or they kept EC in case the whole Richards-Gaborik thing doesn't work out.
As SLU said, I think it happened because of EC's role as a center, and because of sean's cost to benefit is not all that good. Lets face it, he really hasn't been that great the past few years... he is just a shadow of what he used to be. With that being said, I am not a fan of EC either.

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I could understand this decision if EC outplayed Avery, but he didn't. At all.

They need to find a better spare forward than Erik Christensen. Makes me sick that he'll be on this team for 3 years when he should have just been a placeholder for Richards.
Christensen may not play practically at all. The organization may feel Newbury, Bourque and Hagelin are all above him. But they may want to keep a cheap NHL vet just in case there are a LOT of injuries.

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10-04-2011, 10:12 AM
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I could see Burke nabbing him. He's a total Burke player- likes to hit, fight, get his hands dirty, and not much talent. He'd fit right in on Toronto.
Agreed. Plus that's Avery's home town.

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the ONLY reasoning I can find to keep EC over Avery is the shootout...other than that Avery has outplayed almost everybody in camp despite being given the worst linemates.

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10-04-2011, 10:13 AM
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Man, I was looking forward to him being on that show the most. Fück.
I was actually concerned he might draw the cameras away from our core guys for his little sideshow antics. Happy to see him gone. We're building a certain culture and Avery doesn't fit that culture. Too selfish, too inconsistent and when you start talking about the hockey side the guy can't play. Sorry Avery lovers, but he just can't play anymore. 3 goals all of last year. Are you kidding me? Outscored by Marc Staal and Dan Girardi? Outscored by MZA and Frolov in just about half the time? Tied with Michael Sauer? Oh yeah, and not to mention outscored by Erik Christensen.

There was a time when Avery went something like 25-30 his first 85ish games with us. Those days are long gone. Thanks for the good Sean, but we're done with the bad.

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10-04-2011, 10:14 AM
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the ONLY reasoning I can find to keep EC over Avery is the shootout...other than that Avery has outplayed almost everybody in camp despite being given the worst linemates.
And we hardly need EC in the SO when we have Richards, MZA, and Wolski.

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the ONLY reasoning I can find to keep EC over Avery is the shootout...other than that Avery has outplayed almost everybody in camp despite being given the worst linemates.
I was about to say this, sorry reason to keep a guy, but we struggle for shootout goals as a team, and he is one of the best.

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Agreed. Plus that's Avery's home town.
And play with Dion Phaneuf? That's a recipe for disaster.

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10-04-2011, 10:15 AM
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Eh, I'll always like Avery and I'll miss him, but this is really barely news if we're looking at the player and not the reputation/name. Ok, so we're waiving an overpaid borderline 3rd liner. It happens. He's either a fan favorite, or a fan-hated. Like I said, I'll always like the guy and I'll miss him but he was going to be a spare forward anyway and this isn't likely to have a very big impact on our season. Don't think he really got a fair shake from Torts but c'est la vie.

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Agreed. Plus that's Avery's home town.
hes talking about Weise...at least one would think.

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the ONLY reasoning I can find to keep EC over Avery is the shootout...other than that Avery has outplayed almost everybody in camp despite being given the worst linemates.
$985,000>>$1.9 million cap space wise is a fairly large reasoning, also.

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I'm OK with putting him on waivers....after he gets his shot and proves he's not worthy. It seems the decision was really made before camp even started.

This was not handled well. Regardless of the player or what you feel about him. The organization prides itself on being classy and doing things accordingly. I'm really disappointed in them right now.

Christenson, for his part has proven that he is a non presence. I don't get how he makes this team.
That's how I feel too. Why string him along like that when they knew before camp that he wouldn't make the team? They could have bought him out over the summer. Now the Rangers organization looks like schmucks because they let him play in training camp and he did well. I guess they didn't anticipate he would outplay most of the roster... maybe that's why Avery didn't play the last 2 games, it was so obvious he was better than Christensen.

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Torts is a joke. It's that simple. The guy would rather have Christensen play due to his ego.
Really? The guy who's brought our team back to respectablility Is a joke?

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Avery played his ass off this preseason. He deserved to stay.

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the ONLY reasoning I can find to keep EC over Avery is the shootout..
good point. Christ is good in the shootout

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And we hardly need EC in the SO when we have Richards, MZA, and Wolski.
EC is one of the best shootout players EVER since they started this....i think last year they mentioned that he had the highest percentage all time for ppl who have taken more than 10 shootout attempts or something like that.

MZA has shown the ability to put 1 move home. once goalies figure out the old backhand forehand that he does, he's going to be dead in the water unless he has other moves.

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@NYP_Brooksie Torts is doing what he did in Tampa and the fact the team is not going to be a north south team is starting. the Euro influx
Dagoon c'mon man. Euro influx? Who? MZA? They brought in Rupp over the off-season. Their entire defense is NA's.

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