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10-05-2011, 08:45 AM
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JM: Budaj to start 22 games

Ok he didn't exactly say that but if you do the math he did.

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"I think Carey had an outstanding season last year and he was a big part of our success. In the off-season, we acquired Peter Budaj and hopefully he can take some games off Carey's responsibility. It's something that you have to judge and hopefully we're looking at probably 60 games for Carey during the season," explained Martin.
He talks about Price only starting 60 games. I'm glad that he's actively thinking Price really needs to rest more. I think he sees that Price played well in the playoffs but he didn't step up and steal games like he did during the regular season.

I don't think Price will get as low as 60 but I think his thinking is in the right spot and if it ends up 62-68 games, its better than 72 imo.

He does seem pretty high on Budaj though:


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"We feel that we've improved our hockey club this off-season with the addition of Erik Cole and Peter Budaj.

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10-05-2011, 08:47 AM
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I don't see how Budaj is a huge upgrade on Auld, but okay. Cole is definitely an improvement though. But losing Hamrlik and Wiz doesn't exactly scream improvement.

Hamrlik, Wiz, Auld > Budaj, Cole.

Doesn't mean we won't be better (healthy Markov, younger guys developing, etc), but still. It's basically something he has to say.

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10-05-2011, 08:53 AM
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We have 13 back to back games this year, so I would expect at least 13 starts for Budaj.

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10-05-2011, 08:55 AM
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22 starts seems unreasonable unless Budaj was simply very rusty during preseason. I didn't feel he played very well but I don't blame him for a fair number of the goals as well. Being a backup with a bunch of junior and AHL players playing D against NHL vets isn't an easy task.

That said if he can be as good as Auld 22 doesn't seem like that big a deal, it will likely be against teams we should have no problem beating.

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22 starts seems unreasonable unless Budaj was simply very rusty during preseason. I didn't feel he played very well but I don't blame him for a fair number of the goals as well. Being a backup with a bunch of junior and AHL players playing D against NHL vets isn't an easy task.

That said if he can be as good as Auld 22 doesn't seem like that big a deal, it will likely be against teams we should have no problem beating.
Pretty sure Budaj will be good with the Habs. He's the type of goalie that fits into the Habs mold. Groulx is gonna have a lot more to work with having Budaj rather than Auld IMO.

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22 starts seems unreasonable unless Budaj was simply very rusty during preseason. I didn't feel he played very well but I don't blame him for a fair number of the goals as well. Being a backup with a bunch of junior and AHL players playing D against NHL vets isn't an easy task.

That said if he can be as good as Auld 22 doesn't seem like that big a deal, it will likely be against teams we should have no problem beating.
Yeah right, habs have proven many times in the past that they have a tougher time to beat weaker team.

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Budaj will only play back to back games. That's all I want him for.

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I dont like and trust Budaj as much as the next guy, but this is necessary. We cant expect to have a deep run in the playoffs with Price playing 70+ regular season games. Id give Budaj 15-20 starts.

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10-05-2011, 09:28 AM
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I don't see how Budaj is a huge upgrade on Auld, but okay. Cole is definitely an improvement though. But losing Hamrlik and Wiz doesn't exactly scream improvement.

Hamrlik, Wiz, Auld > Budaj, Cole.

Doesn't mean we won't be better (healthy Markov, younger guys developing, etc), but still. It's basically something he has to say.
Sure. But Budaj and Cole aren't the sole additions. What about Gorges and Markov?
Fine, you can have your doubts about Markov, but we signed him for 3years, so I'm pretty sure management expects him to play at least half the season this year. Gorges is supposed to start.
It isn't as simple as you make it sound.

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10-05-2011, 09:30 AM
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I think Budaj is going to surprise a few people, he isn't as bad as he has played in pre-season. Don't forget last season, he played behind an Avs team that made Anderson look like an AHLer and once he got trade he did a lot better with the Sens. Also Budaj was in an #1-A/B role last season and played over 40 games, if you look at his numbers in the 2009 season when he played around 15 games, he had a decent .917 Sv%.

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Pretty sure Budaj will be good with the Habs. He's the type of goalie that fits into the Habs mold. Groulx is gonna have a lot more to work with having Budaj rather than Auld IMO.
Amazingly enough, Colorado has not had a full-time goalie coach at any point during Budaj's career. I think Groulx will really help Budaj, but he needs some time to work with him, and there will be an adjustment. It wasn't going to happen overnight in training camp.

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He needs to play at least 12-15. Lot riding on Mr. Budaj. I'm concerned about this signig, but I have some hope that he will respond well to coaching. Colorado didn't even have a full time goalie coach, apparently, and our current one has a good track record at this point, notably with big, athletic guys.

His preseason was awful, but to be frank so was Auld's last year. I sure hope he turns out to be a solid goalie. Playoff standings are too tight, you need to get points out of your backup too.

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I think Budaj is definitely an upgrade over Auld even though his pre-season play doesn't reflect that. Auld was not that better actually. One game against Carolina in particular last season, Auld was pretty awful.

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I don't see how Budaj is a huge upgrade on Auld, but okay. Cole is definitely an improvement though. But losing Hamrlik and Wiz doesn't exactly scream improvement.

Hamrlik, Wiz, Auld > Budaj, Cole.

Doesn't mean we won't be better (healthy Markov, younger guys developing, etc), but still. It's basically something he has to say.
we also brought in Yemelin Campoli and Diaz on defense.

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we also brought in Yemelin Campoli and Diaz on defense.
Also, don't forget that players like Eller, Subban, Pacioretty Weber and Desharnais *should* improve as they are getting adapted to the pace of the NHL.

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Yeah right, habs have proven many times in the past that they have a tougher time to beat weaker team.
"should have no problem"

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I dont like and trust Budaj as much as the next guy, but this is necessary. We cant expect to have a deep run in the playoffs with Price playing 70+ regular season games. Id give Budaj 15-20 starts.
True enough but can you see us making the playoffs if Budaj plays 22 games? I can but I can also easily see it going the other way too. Say Budaj puts up a 7-13-2 record, even Price going 40-18-2 wouldn't land us a playoff spot then.

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I think you guys are forgetting about Nate Lawson when he gets called up hallelujah the savior tandem will be in effect.

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I think Budaj is going to surprise a few people, he isn't as bad as he has played in pre-season. Don't forget last season, he played behind an Avs team that made Anderson look like an AHLer and once he got trade he did a lot better with the Sens. Also Budaj was in an #1-A/B role last season and played over 40 games, if you look at his numbers in the 2009 season when he played around 15 games, he had a decent .917 Sv%.
Are you aware that Anderson wanted out since the start of the season, because he wasn't offered a contract he wanted, altough he was offered a nice chunk of change for someone who had only one good season as a starter in the NHL? FYI he quit on the team from day one.

Please don't comment on things you obviously know nothing about, because you make yourself look foolish.

As for Budaj, he won't steal games for Montreal, he'll make most of the saves he needs to make, but nothing more than that.


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You're aware that Anderson wanted out since the start of the season, because he wasn't offered a contract he wanted, altough he was offered a nice chunk of change for someone who had only one good season as a starter in the NHL? FYI he quit on the team from day one.

Please don't comment on things you obviously know nothing about, because you make yourself look foolish.

As for Budaj, he won't steal games for Montreal, he'll make most of the saves he needs to make, but nothing more than that.
So basically your saying that Anderson numbers last season with the Avs (3.28 GAA/ .897 SV%) was because he quit on the team and nothing to with the Avs D, which also had the worst PK in the league?

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I picked Price in my pool...

I want him to be a workhorse dammit!

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65 would be more reasonable. How can they give Carey 12 less games? This year will probably be even more of a dogfight with Buffalo and Toronto improving.

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These are the kinds of things that coaches always say before the season starts. Then when you're in the thick of a playoff hunt, suddenly resting your star goalie seems like a less appealing idea. How many times have we heard the same about Kiprusoff, Luongo, Lundqvist, Brodeur, etc...

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As for Budaj, he won't steal games for Montreal, he'll make most of the saves he needs to make, but nothing more than that.
And this is exactly what you want from a backup goalie who is going to play well under 30 goals.

I don't know what people are expecting, he wasn't brought in to be Halak. He's an upgrade over Auld IMO.

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So basically your saying that Anderson numbers last season with the Avs (3.28 GAA/ .897 SV%) was because he quit on the team and nothing to with the Avs D, which also had the worst PK in the league?
Avs D wasn't good as well (they were decent in the first quater of the season when Quincey and Hannan played, later on they weren't good because of Quincey's injury and Hannan getting traded), but I can assure you as someone that saw all the games he played for Colorado that Anderson didn't play with the same level of commitment as he did the season before. He sulked from the get go and it was obvious he didn't care about the team.


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