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10-05-2011, 10:01 AM
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Voynov Assigned To Manchester - Roster is Now Complete

Per Hammond:

http://lakingsinsider.com/2011/10/05...hl-roster-set/

Hopefully the kid fully understands and sacrifices a little more, if he does, he will be a Kings regular pretty easily pretty soon.

Our roster is set for opening night. Let's make it a good one, the best one in Kings history!

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Stupid decision.

We'll see if he reports there. Either that, the KHL or a trade.

Id be seriously pissed if we lose this guy.

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I do not agree with this move

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As I said I hope management has a good talk with him and Loktionov. Obviously they will talk, but I mean make it clear that they have great chances and we believe in them.

How will this go now... Does he stay with the team in Europe?

Really rooting for Voynov and Loktionov to play great and make it.

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10-05-2011, 10:12 AM
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I don't think it's for the whole year. My guess is, we have to keep Parse right now, as he is in for Penner. Voynov can't fill that spot, so we need a forward. Once Penner is healthy, and if Parse hasn't showed his worth by then, he's is traded/waived and Voynov is back with the big club. It could easily be just until we're back in the States (if Penner is okay then). We had to get the roster set by 12pm pt today, and this is the easiest/most logical move right now.

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A ****ing logjam of good defenseman, and it's only the beginning.

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10-05-2011, 10:32 AM
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A ****ing logjam of good defenseman, and it's only the beginning.
Right. It's going to be a regular occurrence. Drafting well for years gets us in to the position where guys spend more time in the minors before the big club has a slot to fill them with.

It's something the Wings have been dealing with for a long time.

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If it weren't for the threat of him bolting to Russia, I would fully support this move. In the games I saw him he looked flashy but not very solid in his own end.

Hopefully he is on board with the whole thing and understands.

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Parse promised to take Penner's weigh ins for the rest of the year, if Penner said he pulled a muscle for game one.

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Dustin Penner ($4.250m) / Anze Kopitar ($6.800m) / Justin Williams ($3.650m)
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Kyle Clifford ($0.870m) / Trevor Lewis ($0.725m) / Trent Hunter ($0.600m)
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This is going to be a very interesting situation. VV has said that it is his only goal to play in the NHL but this has to be a hit to the guy. I think he will stay and wait his turn since he is so close.

Too bad we have decided to hang on to DavisD for so long. You could see this coming when he was re signed.

With Loki and VV both down on the farm we have two amazingly talented Reds to call up as the season goes on. It is shocking how deep we are when you stop and look at us.

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Right. It's going to be a regular occurrence. Drafting well for years gets us in to the position where guys spend more time in the minors before the big club has a slot to fill them with.

It's something the Wings have been dealing with for a long time.
Just have to make sure the message to these guys is clear and an occasional bone is thrown to our top level prospects or they can (and will) bolt. They're not indentured servants and there is plenty of money to be made for top talent in EUR/KHL.

Europe is leverage for guys like VV if he wants to go that route. The difference in salary for him right now is HUGE and he's spent 3 seasons in New Hampshire already and has little else to prove there.

Kings can't **** this one up! This kid could be special...bigger upside than A-Mart... maybe even JMFJ too.

I'm not saying he should have made the team, I'm just preaching caution and extra care with this guy.

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Just have to make sure the message to these guys is clear
The Kings need to go deeper in the playoffs this year (and future years) for that message to resonate. Players are patient with the Wings because the Wings contend every year.

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Can someone please explain to me what the lovefest with Parse is? The guy is garbage.

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The Kings need to go deeper in the playoffs this year (and future years) for that message to resonate. Players are patient with the Wings because the Wings contend every year.
I agree... but $$$ is the other side of the equation here. This is their living after all and waiting costs $$$ even for a RFA if they can leave to go to EUR. Dean can complain all he wants about the rules/lack of patience of prospects but the reality is the EUR leagues are improving and aren't just places for past-prime players to play anymore.

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Quite annoying.

Completely agrees if he decides to move to Russia.

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Blah. Ditch Sparse and Big n' Soft.

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One thing I don't like is they haven't even given him a "reward" if you want to call it that. He's been in America for over 3 years and done everything the organization has asked and they haven't even once called him up, let alone get him in an NHL game. And then he has to see a guy like Drewiske stick here for 2+ seasons doing jack ****. Yes I know they are in different situations but Slava see's this and that's why I wouldn't be surprised or even mad if he goes to Russia. I'd be super pissed however if DL picks a couple scrubs> Voynov and trades him.

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I can't see why we are hanging on to DavisD in favor of VV and the Parse experiment well, I don't know why we are still in that either but at least with Parse you can argue that we have given him this long so giving him some time to see what he can do to start the season would be giving our investment due time before cashing in. Not an ideal situation but at least a potential minor win instead of an automatic fail.

I would have moved him when wpg was interested but maybe mgmt sees something or knows something that we don't. Either way 20 games will give us a better idea of what we have. Unless he ends up on the rack again.

DavisD is serviceable and would likely be picked up if waived but we have so much better talent who is capable of stepping right in below him that you have to wonder why we still have him.

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Can someone please explain to me what the lovefest with Parse is? The guy is garbage.
Who do you want to replace Penner?

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I have seen KHL games in almost every stadium and have seen every team play live at least once and much more in a few cases and while I agree that the money offered can be good, the level of play is far below that of the NHL and there are BIG problems getting paid on a regular basis and several players have opted out of contracts with one team to sign with another.

Some people think of the KHL as the NHL's little cousin but I would say go, go see a few KHL games in person and you will see why every player would rather play in the NHL then in the KHL who is worth their salt.

The SEL is a more comparable league in so far as professionalism and caliber of play is concerned but even then, it is different and there isn't anywhere near the same opp to make money.

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"The roster is now complete - When I left you, I was but the learner. Now, I am the master."

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"The roster is now complete - When I left you, I was but the learner. Now, I am the master."
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Sorry, not a fan of this, unless it is just a simple matter of waiting for Penner to get healthy so we can send down a forward and recall Voynov. Outside of that, this move bites.

I didn't like the Loki move either, but even I felt the kid needed to show he could stay healthy and doing so playing big minutes would be beneficial. I don't see anything Voynov has to prove. He dominated in the AHL last year. If there are holes in his game, they are minute and can be just as easily fixed with him up on the big club as a #7 d-man.

VV outplayed Drewiske, so it's almost like they figured Voynov had no chance from the start because they wanted someone to sit out every second game, hence keeping Drewiske.

If he stays, he better get a recall. Toss him some NHL games and the corresponding salary as a reward. Hickey deserves some NHL games this year too. I love the fact we some great NHL ready D-men in the system, but throw them a bone.

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