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10-06-2011, 10:27 AM
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Gagner isn't a right fit in Toronto. There is no sense in acquiring someone that we already have on our team (Bozak, Steckl).

Edmonton should look too somoene that has enough emerging proven defensemen like Washington, that could spare another up and coming blueliner.

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10-06-2011, 10:28 AM
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Gagner isn't a right fit in Toronto. There is no sense in acquiring someone that we already have on our team (Bozak, Steckl).

Edmonton should look too somoene that has enough emerging proven defensemen like Washington, that could spare another up and coming blueliner.
Just wondering how Steckel and Gagner are alike in your eyes. Gagner's biggest weakness is Steckel's only strength, faceoffs.

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A 40 point center, who misses 14 games a season the past 2 years. Who isn't built for the third line and certainly isn't better than our top 2 centers.

Yup personally not interested in trading Gunnar and less interested in trading anything bigger than a third round pick for Gagner. And to the person who said Gunnar or Franson isn't an upgrade from guys like Russel....just lmfao.

Gunnar would be your number 2 without question

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Gagner would make more sense if the Leafs didn't sign Connolly

He'd be a nice talent to have but the more you look at it its hard to find the fit

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The only Dman I want from the Leafs in an exchange for Gagner would be Schenn. Leafs aren't trading him. Next.

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I guess I missed the part where Sam Gagner became good. Four years in the league and he hasn't even sniffed 50 points since year 1.

Not alot of points, not physical, +/- getting steadily worse. What kind of value do Oilers fans think he has at this point? After 4 years the upside argument starts to go out the window.
49 points in your first year isn't "sniffing 50 points since year 1"?? His plus minus had gotten better since his first year as well. At least you could try and base your argument on some facts instead of blatant bullcrap.


I missed the part where he had actual NHL players to play with in the past 4 years and yet still managed over 40 pts each year playing on the 2nd/3rd line on the worst team in the league.

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10-06-2011, 10:31 AM
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A 40 point center, who misses 14 games a season the past 2 years. Who isn't built for the third line and certainly isn't better than our top 2 centers.

Yup personally not interested in trading Gunnar and less interested in trading anything bigger than a third round pick for Gagner. And to the person who said Gunnar or Franson isn't an upgrade from guys like Russel....just lmfao.

Gunnar would be your number 2 without question
Do you even know why Gagner missed 14 games last year? A freak injury, skate cutting his hand while Jones jumped on the bench.

And Gunnar would be our number 3 at best. Whitney and Gilbert are both better right now, Gunnar MIGHT end up better than Gilbert someday. Gunnar falls into the same category as Smid, so he would be our 3rd/4th d-man.

I don't mind if Leafs fans don't want Gagner, I'd actually prefer to keep him over getting another 4/5/6 d-man (which we already have too many of). But at least do your research.

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I think people underrate Gunnarsson. He's a pretty decent defenseman and he's working his way to being a consistent top 4 guy. He doesn't have much flash in his game and he's not going to put up good offensive numbers but he's capable of eating a lot of minutes while playing mistake-free hockey. Again, he won't "wow" you but he'll play a simple yet solid game.
You just described Kimmo Timonen in the making. I'm sure Edmonton would love to have Timonen...

Fact of the matter is that on these forums if you wear a Leafs sweater than suddenly you have no value. It's getting old.

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Just wondering how Steckel and Gagner are alike in your eyes. Gagner's biggest weakness is Steckel's only strength, faceoffs.

They aren't alike, I'm just saying we have enough 3rd liners on this team that we don't need any more at that position.

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Gagner played 3rd line last season...
Lol. The guy lead the team in ESTOI/Game last year by a center.

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Sorry., I doubt the Leafs have interest in Stajan 2.0.

Very average, nothing special or spectaccular to see here.

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No thx, don't need another center back especially AHL quality, we have that shelf in the cupboard stocked up.

Franson and a 1st for Gagner and a 2nd.

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You want another 3rd line centreman for a team that already has 2??

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No thx, don't need another center back especially AHL quality, we have that shelf in the cupboard stocked up.

Franson and a 1st for Gagner and a 2nd.
You forgot your emoticon. Not a chance.

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Haha, this should be fun to watch. Oilers fans will want something ludicrous and post his stats etc., Leafs fans will want to give up Gunnerson + 3rd.

Go for it! Entertain us.
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Franson and Gunner aren't worth Gagner. they might have to throw in a draft pick or two.
Franson + Gunner for a centreman who didn't keep up to expectations? Easily fair enough. You wont get both though. #sorry!

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I think a Gunnarsson for Gagner swap would be pretty fair.
I think it works, as much as the Oiler fans will hate it, they don't have a great D at their side atm so Yea it should work.

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Gunnar would be your number 2 without question


In that same dream world Gagner would be your #1 Center AINEC. Our D is bad, but not THAT bad.

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Gagner isn't a right fit in Toronto. There is no sense in acquiring someone that we already have on our team (Bozak, Steckl).

Edmonton should look too somoene that has enough emerging proven defensemen like Washington, that could spare another up and coming blueliner.
There is no way that Steckel even remotely compares to Gagner. I'd also place him well above Bozak in terms of potential. I'm not saying that Gagner will ever realize that potential but he's 21 years old and shows flashes of some pretty high skill.

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Maybe the Oilers would be more interested in Aulie than Gunnarsson. Stay at home Western Canadian kid with some size.

Certainly they'd be willing to sweeten the pot for Schenn. But he has to be considered off the table from Toronto's perspective.

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There is no way that Steckel even remotely compares to Gagner. I'd also place him well above Bozak in terms of potential. I'm not saying that Gagner will ever realize that potential but he's 21 years old and shows flashes of some pretty high skill.

I'm referring to the point that he's a 3rd line centre on the worst team in the league. He won't be a good fit on a Leafs team that already has 2 3rd line centres.

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In that same dream world Gagner would be your #1 Center AINEC. Our D is bad, but not THAT bad.
I would think if Leafs are interested in Gagner it is definately to be # 1 or 2 centre. No use trading for another 3rd or 4th line centre.

I think a # 1 or 2 centre for a # 2 defenceman is close to being fair but no doubt Toronto would have to give more.

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You just described Kimmo Timonen in the making. I'm sure Edmonton would love to have Timonen...

Fact of the matter is that on these forums if you wear a Leafs sweater than suddenly you have no value. It's getting old.
Actually the fact is that Gunnarson will be fighting for a roster spot and will likely see a lot of time up in the PB. Claiming him to a top pairing Dman on another club just show ignorace. If he is going to be so great then Leafs should keep him and trade one of their other 6 Dmen.
Leafs may have interest in Gagner but EDM has no interest in another depth Dman.

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Sorry., I doubt the Leafs have interest in Stajan 2.0.

Very average, nothing special or spectaccular to see here.
Stajan didn't break the 40 point barrier in the NHL until he was 25. Gagner has hit at least 40 points every season so far and he's only 22.

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You just described Kimmo Timonen in the making. I'm sure Edmonton would love to have Timonen...
Except for the part about "not going to put up good offensive numbers".

In the past 9 seasons, Timonen has put up 50+ twice, 40+ seven times- the past 2 years he's put up 39 and 37 respectively. Those are good offensive numbers.

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I think it works, as much as the Oiler fans will hate it, they don't have a great D at their side atm so Yea it should work.
The only way it really works from Edmonton's side is if its Gunnar and Toronto's 1st for Gagner and Edmonton's 2nd or 3rd. I think Gagner is still more valuable to Edmonton than yet another depth defenseman.

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