I never was a believer. He has had a tough start. Teams are jumping speedy fws when he is on the ice and breaking him down. I am willing to give him 20 games to show me something. He is supposed to be the thumper on the blueline. The flyers other 5 d-men are soft. By all accounts Woywitka had good camp and is not shy in the hitting department. Maybe by december we might see him with the flyers. Oh yeah! Ruggerri has continued his strong play in the Que. What a bonus this kid could become down the road.