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10-09-2011, 02:58 AM
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Just got back from the game, it was awesome. Had no idea I was going till 5pm. Buddy called up with an extra ticket in the 200 level and a media pass to the Governors Room for the sponsors banquet. Hell yeah I wanted to go I told him. Free tickets, free parking, free food, free drinks, free bag of hawks merchadise including a sweet pullover and hat, got to hang out and take pictures with Savard, Espo, Bull and Stan. Those guys were awesome.

Me and my buddy asked Savard if he wanted to join our over 30 men's league team and he said no, but then ended up having a long conversation with us about a trip he took to Vegas for Wayne Gretzkys fantasy camp and how he partied the whole time and could barely skate, but went on a run in the casino and won 25 straight hands of blackjack. Espo asked me if I was a paison because of the size of my nose. Had to break it to him gently that I was jewish and not italian.

And to top it all off, great game!

To think, at 5pm I assumed my night wold be spent on the couch listening to the annoying cackles of Eddie and Pat and instead I got to do all that.

Post pics or it didn't happen

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10-09-2011, 04:11 AM
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Kruger blocked a shot. In no way did he show more than Pirri, Smith, or even Saad.
I'm with you on this one. In fact, I wasn't particularly fond of the block itself - it was very Ryan Johnson-esque, where you knew that he was out of the play for good as soon as he went down.

He did have a pretty good game, though Saad had a better one.

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10-09-2011, 04:15 AM
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Solid game by the hawks.

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PP still looks bad. I once again must reiterate how much I like Kane at center. He just looks so much smoother with all that space. Sharp looked good, Bolland could be the lynchpin of the team, and I REALLY wish keith would play like it was 2009/2011. I really wish they would make the d pairings Keith/Hjalmarsson and Seabrook/Leddy.

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10-09-2011, 06:31 AM
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Kane seems to look taller/bigger this year. Is there any new statistical info on his height and weight for this season?

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10-09-2011, 07:28 AM
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Have to get the home ice advantage back going. Last year wasn't good enough.

Please stay healthy Bolland. This team is leagues better when you're on the ice. He might be the MVP of the team.
I tell you this team does rally around Bolland and he is presenting a match up problem offensively, and we all know what does to the oppo's top line. Yes, PLEASE stay healthy.

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10-09-2011, 09:03 AM
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Overall, obviously a much better game than Friday night. I hope this allows all those chicken littles to step away from the ledge. What I liked most about this game was the fact that there weren't really any of our players that were especially dominant, and yet as a team we absolutely dominated this game. Its nice to see that just by playing our game we can be dominate (at least against the stars haha).

Some more thoughts on the game:

- Bolland makes this team infinitely better. With him in the lineup, we have an excellent 3rd line with Frolik and Bickell and allows us to spread out the rest of our offensive players over the top 2 lines. It really is night and day with him in the lineup. You can say what you want about him being injury prone, but when he is in the lineup he is a difference maker.

- This was the 3rd pairing we thought we had coming into the season, and is definitely a big improvement on last year. Montador in particular played excellent I thought. I wasn't crazy about the contract, but if he continues to play like he did last night he will be worth it. Good skater, physical, solid defensively and had a pretty good one timer (especially nice to have another RH shot from the point).

- Leddy is the real deal. I am trying my hardest not to get too excited about him, but my god is it getting hard. The kid is impressing me beyond my expectations. Excellent skater, positioning, passing, vision. He is just so solid, he looks like a 10 year vet out there. The biggest thing so far this year is that he is not getting outmuscled nearly as easily as last year.

- Kruger has been getting a lot of hate, but I don't mind him at all out there. Obviously it remains to be seen how is offensive game will evolve, but he really is excellent defensively and in no way does he hurt this team when he is in the lineup. I was very impressed with Pirri on Friday night, but I have no problem with either of these guys in the lineup.

- Sharp and Toews looked good. Kane and Hossa less so. Its nice that on any given night we can have a couple stars not play their best game and still have a couple more that step up to the plate.

- Keith played better last night, but I still think it would be better to split up the pairings to have a mobile puck mover and a bigger physical dman on each.

- Nice to see Hammer throw his weight around. He has the size and strength to dominate physically, he just has to stop being afraid to use it. I really think his suspension at the beginning of last year scared him and changed his game. Hopefully that has worn off and he can take a page out of Seabrook's book and start finishing every cheque.

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10-09-2011, 09:16 AM
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Kruger blocked a shot. In no way did he show more than Pirri, Smith, or even Saad.
Krüger played better than Pirri, both have a Point so far. Krüger is better in our zone and I prefer this in the Bottom 6. Pirri isn't good enough in his own zone.



- Saad needs more time but he will be a good player in the future. I think this was his last game with Carcillo and possible Smith back against the Jets
- Scott on the Roster is a waste of contract. He isn't trusted on the ice and with Mayers, Carcillo and OD we don't need him to drop the gloves
- Keith and Seabrook looked really great. Better than last year
- Leddy can replace Campbell, who really plays great for the Panthers
- Ott is a POS
- Frolik ugh... he plays really good but he just can't shoot

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10-09-2011, 09:41 AM
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Why was Scott even dressed? He was a total non factor.

I thought Mayers played well on the 4th line. Will be interesting with Carbomb on there Thursday.

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10-09-2011, 10:17 AM
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Kruger is nowhere near Pirri right now. He's Ryan Johnson without the faceoffs and potential.

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10-09-2011, 10:19 AM
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Kruger blocked a shot. In no way did he show more than Pirri, Smith, or even Saad.
Kruger had an assist, could have had another on a set-up to Hossa, was strong on the PK and he made the Bolland goal happen with his patience with the puck. He showed more than Pirri did and showed more than Saad.

When Smith comes back, I think Kruger will be sent down, but he played very solid last night and if he keeps up that play will make a case for himself to stay up with the team, but he's obviously going to be in tough.

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10-09-2011, 10:23 AM
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The only thing that made the Bolland goal happen was bad goaltending. Revisionist history at it's finest.

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10-09-2011, 10:25 AM
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I'm with you on this one. In fact, I wasn't particularly fond of the block itself - it was very Ryan Johnson-esque, where you knew that he was out of the play for good as soon as he went down.

He did have a pretty good game, though Saad had a better one.
That's kind of what happens when you get hit by a Sheldon Souray slap shot.. it takes a chunk out of you.

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10-09-2011, 10:29 AM
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The only thing that made the Bolland goal happen was bad goaltending. Revisionist history at it's finest.
Look, everyone gets it, you've disliked Kruger and the deserved hype that he's gotten since we drafted him. That's fine. He was still better than Pirri and showed just as much as Smith and Saad.

When Kruger has a good game, he gets no credit, and when he plays poorly, everyone loves to point it out.

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Also like to point out that Montador had a good bounce back game, in terms of bouncing back from a rough pre-season. He just needs to play within himself and he'll be solid. Make the simple play and don't try to do too much.

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10-09-2011, 10:49 AM
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I loved the play of Montador, exactly the type of palyer that Bowman signed, hopefully he keeps it up.

Kruger played very well, and I have been critical aand non-supportive of him lately. I think he sticks until Smith or Stalberg get back.

Our D as a whole had a great night, aside from Scott who played 3min.

I still think they need to put Toews and Kane back together. Sharp is playing well, and I would like to see him at C until they find a C to fill that spot.

Crawford with another good game, good enough to keep us in it, made really key saves!

Thought the team last night looked almost as dominant as the Cup team, but I also think Dallas will be near the bottom this year, so I can't wait to go up against a top team!!

Mayers FTW!!!!

Burish is a little *****, just like Ott.

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Also like to point out that Montador had a good bounce back game, in terms of bouncing back from a rough pre-season. He just needs to play within himself and he'll be solid. Make the simple play and don't try to do too much.
i think its completely possible that he was trying to do too much in the preseason and it back fired

to show the team, management, fans what he can do

i think he'll be real solid going forward

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Great game to be at. The Hawks really controlled the tempo throughout the entire game. Bolland looked good out there as well as the captain. Krugar did not do anything special other than the block

Sharp also did not serve his last penalty, went to the locker room. I'm assuming it was equipment related since I didn't hear anything.

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10-09-2011, 11:37 AM
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Why was Scott even dressed? He was a total non factor.

I thought Mayers played well on the 4th line. Will be interesting with Carbomb on there Thursday.
I wish that Scott was a non-factor. He was directly responsible for TWO odd man rushes in the first period, in his 3 minutes of icetime. I don't know if he's got naked pictures of Stan & Q with a bunch of midget wrestlers or what - but it's INDEFENSIBLE that he's getting icetime on this team. He didn't deter Ott from drilling Saad, or being careless with the stick and high sticking Sharp. I'd LOVE to know what he brings to this team.

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Agreed. Rusty was scratched for three minutes of Scott. Never again.

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Wow, lots of accolades going around but you put Lehtonen in there and we could have had another nail biter. Way too many giveaways for my liking but I suppose that's to be expected this early in the season. Our d in general played pretty well but the giveaways must stop. Keith was good, though he occasionally takes unnecessary risks. Montador was surprisingly good and could have been our best dman tonight. Sharp is getting his timing back and looked great on the goal he scored. Both Bolland and Bickell had solid games and Frolik wasn't bad either.
Crawford was good but let in a softie. Kruger played better then we've seen so far and I do agree defensively he is better than Pirri. Kruger is on the bubble when we are healthy. Saad and Pirri could use some more seasoning, IMO, but the experience they've gained just by being here should help them in their development.

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The only thing that made the Bolland goal happen was bad goaltending. Revisionist history at it's finest.
This. No disrespect to Kruger intended, but he just happened to be the guy who touched the puck last before Bolland got the goal. He didn't "make" or "create" that play, he was the beneficiary of Bolland taking a mean shot, and some bad goaltending.

Ask yourself this: Do you see Kruger taking the same shot Bolland did right now? Do you see him having even a remote chance of making it? If the answer is "No" then he isn't "Bolland 2.0" like everyone hopes he will be, and he needs time to develop more before he can be a true NHL contributor.

His defense was solid last night. His offense still wasn't there.

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Agreed. Rusty was scratched for three minutes of Scott. Never again.
I have to admit though, that as the game wound down last night, I wanted Scott out there to rag doll Ott. Ott was relatively docile last night compared to Friday but he takes too many liberties against us. Not sure why Q bothers to dress him if he isn't out there at the end to at least talk with players of Ott's ilk.

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Everyone played well tonight, except Scott. That guy is too slow to play at NHL level. I liked the scuffles, good to know as the year goes on, they're going to defend each other.v

Kruger had a good game, 1 assist and he was good defensively. Don't think he'll stay over Smith though.

This team is a whole different team when Bolland is playing, its almost unreal. The day he came back in that vancouver series the score was 7-2, and last night 5-2. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEAS x100000 stay healthy bollie!!!

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Look, everyone gets it, you've disliked Kruger and the deserved hype that he's gotten since we drafted him. That's fine. He was still better than Pirri and showed just as much as Smith and Saad.

When Kruger has a good game, he gets no credit, and when he plays poorly, everyone loves to point it out.
Kruger didn't have any hype when we drafted him. Only after his draft year did he really start getting any hype.

You can fall back on your persecution complex all you want, but Kruger showed just as much as Pirri. No more, no less. Both showed less than Saad, who had an good game last night.

At this point, I would say none of them deserve to be on the roster over Smith, Stalberg, or Carcillo.

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