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10-10-2011, 03:23 PM
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As a follow-up, we had an absolute blast this weekend guys. To those in the 201 area, thanks for cheering and taunting back with us... that's what makes it great.

As far as I know, we avoided incident at the arena, and that's always a plus.

To those making the Jacket Backers trip, we look forward to seeing you!!
Your fans seemed to be very well behaved unlike fans from Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Chicago and Detroit.

See you on the 19th of November.

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Who all from this board is going? I am not taking the bus but I did just get two tickets in the Jacket Backers area and so far there are over 150 people going.
The missus and myself are all over that trip. The deal with the bus is actually good money wise, because depending on what kind of car you're driving it's probably $100 in gas to get there and back... plus you can nap on the way home!

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The missus and myself are all over that trip. The deal with the bus is actually good money wise, because depending on what kind of car you're driving it's probably $100 in gas to get there and back... plus you can nap on the way home!
If it was not for my wife (she does not want to ride a bus with people she does not know) I would be doing the bus trip too.

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Your fans seemed to be very well behaved unlike fans from Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Chicago and Detroit.

See you on the 19th of November.
Not all of us I hope.

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Not all of us I hope.
There are always a few respectable Detroit fans but not many, but to be fair Buffalo and Pittsburgh blow Detroit fans out of the water when it comes to being a problem in our arena.

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blue jacket tickets

hey guy's i'm coming to columbus in jan. i'm thinking about staying an extra day to check out the blue jackets on the 13th i'd really like to see them,just curious what a good set of ticket cost for a game.and is there any section you'd reccomend.

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hey guy's i'm coming to columbus in jan. i'm thinking about staying an extra day to check out the blue jackets on the 13th i'd really like to see them,just curious what a good set of ticket cost for a game.and is there any section you'd reccomend.
If the team is in contention, Hopefully tickets will be hard to get. But if the team is kind of out of it, and the game is on a weeknight, You will be able to buy lower bowls for probably $40-$50 for the pair. Maybe less. My season tickets weep.

As far as "where?", I've sat everywhere in the arena, and it's pretty much all good. The only seats I don't like are the "lower" bowl tickets that end in double letters, like 122 GG or something. The value doesn't seem to be there for those seats.

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thanks plong123 the game is on a jan.13th friday night vs the coyote's.

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if anyone has tickets available for the Oct. 30th game vs. the ducks and is willing to sell for cheap-ish, I am definitely interested in buying as my girlfriend is a buckeye from SoCal and we attend every game between the two here.

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Sorry if I ramble, but I'm sleepy.

I am thoroughly confused when it comes to PSLs. Ticketmaster and the BJs website are very vague when it comes to the nuances.

How much do they actually cost? Do PSLs factor into 20 game plans? If not, once you get one are you required to buy full season plans in perpetuity or can you retain your PSL with a lesser package? Is there a market out there where people sell their seats? I can understand why the team wouldn't advertise this because if somebody gives it up they do so for nothing and then the team can theoretically sell it again at full price.

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Sorry if I ramble, but I'm sleepy.

I am thoroughly confused when it comes to PSLs. Ticketmaster and the BJs website are very vague when it comes to the nuances.

How much do they actually cost? Do PSLs factor into 20 game plans? If not, once you get one are you required to buy full season plans in perpetuity or can you retain your PSL with a lesser package? Is there a market out there where people sell their seats? I can understand why the team wouldn't advertise this because if somebody gives it up they do so for nothing and then the team can theoretically sell it again at full price.
Call a ticket rep is the best thing to do. They seem to be hiding all info on PSLs anymore to the point that I can no longer tell you what they cost or what plans require them. It use to be if you did not renew your tickets you lost your PSL but I have no idea if that is still the case.

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10-11-2011, 06:38 AM
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There are always a few respectable Detroit fans but not many, but to be fair Buffalo and Pittsburgh blow Detroit fans out of the water when it comes to being a problem in our arena.
Honestly, I can see why Detroit gets a bad rep in Columbus. It seems like a lot of the fans live in the area, and the Wings game(s) is the only one they'll go to all season- being a good team also bring the bandwagoners.

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10-11-2011, 07:09 AM
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Honestly, I can see why Detroit gets a bad rep in Columbus. It seems like a lot of the fans live in the area, and the Wings game(s) is the only one they'll go to all season- being a good team also bring the bandwagoners.
You haven't given me any reason in this post to think they should get a good rep.

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You haven't given me any reason in this post to think they should get a good rep.
I wasn't trying to give Wings fans a good rep- nothing I say can change the reputation of a fan-base. There are thousands of great Wings fans, but I only (personally) know of a few that go to any of the three CBJ- Wings games in Columbus each year. Every team has bad/annoying fans (just look at the main boards here) and Detroit (like Columbus) is no exception.

Personally, I want the Wings fans to be respectful and to be as loud as possible during the games, win or lose. I want the same thing from the CBJ fans, and the fans of any other team. Just try to remember that a reputation doesn't apply to every individual of a fan-base.

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10-11-2011, 08:35 AM
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I wasn't trying to give Wings fans a good rep- nothing I say can change the reputation of a fan-base.
You asked why they have a bad rep, yet offered up nothing to support a positive rep. Confusing.

I have no issue with most teams opposing fans, but I remember the Wings fans that were trash talking the expansion Jackets fan base. It is an embarrassing black eye (and it wasn't just one or two, I heard it for 2 or 3 years) for your fan base. I looked at one of your fans and I said "You better have beat an expansion team, you have 20 million (or was it 30) in additional salary. It would be real embarrassing if you had lost". It would have been like trash talking an AHL fan base during an exhibition. No class there.

Then you get the tools that what to throw sea creatures on our ice. Look I don't mind your "tradition", just keep that crap on your own ice.

I can give a lot of examples of poor sportsmanship. This isn't intended to go down the "All your fans suck" as I'm sure the vast majority are fine. However, we all know the rep is derived from the vocal minority, not the majority (or at least rarely is). I have had far less issues with most other opposing teams fans, but there are a couple of teams I would rank fairly close to Detroit on the hate meter.

The point? Just roll with it and don't act surprised. However, when you witness asshatery from your own fan base, call them out on it. I have no issue doing the same on our end. There was a fan on this board that I called out a couple of times, even though the majority of my fan base defended him.

I will say one thing. I get perverse enjoyment yelling, in my deep voice with my somewhat intimidating stare, "Sit down" when opposing teams fans try and celebrate after a goal. The sheepish look they give me as they sit down always makes me laugh. Sorry.


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You asked why they have a bad rep, yet offered up nothing to support a positive rep. Confusing.

I have no issue with most teams opposing fans, but I remember the Wings fans that were trash talking the expansion Jackets fan base. It is an embarrassing black eye (and it wasn't just one or two, I heard it for 2 or 3 years) for your fan base. I looked at one of your fans and I said "You better have beat an expansion team, you have 20 million (or was it 30) in additional salary. It would be real embarrassing if you had lost". It would have been like trash talking an AHL fan base during an exhibition. No class there.

Then you get the tools that what to throw sea creatures on our ice. Look I don't mind your "tradition", just keep that crap on your own ice.

I can give a lot of examples of poor sportsmanship. This isn't intended to go down the "All your fans suck" as I'm sure the vast majority are fine. However, we all know the rep is derived from the vocal minority, not the majority (or at least rarely is). I have had far less issues with most other opposing teams fans, but there are a couple of teams I would rank fairly close to Detroit on the hate meter.

The point? Just roll with it and don't act surprised. However, when you witness asshatery from your own fan base, call them out on it. I have no issue doing the same on our end. There was a fan on this board that I called out a couple of times, even though the majority of my fan base defended him.

I will say one thing. I get perverse enjoyment yelling, in my deep voice with my somewhat intimidating stare, "Sit down" when opposing teams fans try and celebrate after a goal. The sheepish look they give me as they sit down always makes me laugh. Sorry.
Where did I ask why the Wings got a bad rep? In fact, I stated that I understand the reputation the fans have.

Personally, I don't like trash talking at sporting events I'm not playing in. However, this happens with all teams (I've been trashed talked while using the bathroom at Nationwide).

I can understand CBJ fans being upset at the Octopus throwing, but it is our tradition and the fans are removed from the arena (at opposing arenas). Part of the tradition, for better or worse, is that the Wings have a fan-base devoted enough to exercise the tradition at other arenas. While I can sympathize with CBJ fans being upset at the tradition, I don't agree with the acts of violence enacted on some of the people throwing the Octopus at away arenas.

One thing to remember about Detroit fans, is the amount of fans that come for CBJ games. More inappropriate behavior can be somewhat attributed to the increased away fans for those games. I'm sure group mentality also plays a role, with the amount of Wings fans at CBJ-Wings games.

On your last point, why should the away teams fans not be allowed to stand and cheer after a goal, as long as they are being appropriate? That is a widely accepted activity, and I don't see how it negatively effects the home team's fans. IMO yelling at people cheering for a goal is likely to escalate trash-talking and other inappropriate behavior.

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Where did I ask why the Wings got a bad rep? In fact, I stated that I understand the reputation the fans have.
Actually that was my fault. I misread the sentence. My bad. Misreading one word was the cause, there was no reason to go down this rabbit hole.

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On your last point, why should the away teams fans not be allowed to stand and cheer after a goal, as long as they are being appropriate? That is a widely accepted activity, and I don't see how it negatively effects the home team's fans. IMO yelling at people cheering for a goal is likely to escalate trash-talking and other inappropriate behavior.
I didn't say they weren't allowed. 95%+ of opposing goals go by without incident. I didn't completely explain but I don't do it all the time. I usually save it for game situations and for excessive celebration. When we're down 5-2 with 4 minutes to go and you are just rubbing it in, you're more likely to get it.

Also, I never said I was against trash talking. Make it good and appropriate I'll all on board. I'm not going to go violent, it's up to them act accordingly. I've been on the receiving ends of not-too-friendly crowds in other arenas when I attempt to celebrate, I see no issue making them feel less-than-comfortable. If I can help take the opposing teams fans out of the game, especially if they are numerous, I've got no issue with that. We can't have the opposing team feeling like it's a home game.

My favorite is probably interrupting Red Wings chants. It's amazing how modifying the chant can get 30 fans out of sync and have it die fast.


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I can understand CBJ fans being upset at the Octopus throwing, but it is our tradition and the fans are removed from the arena (at opposing arenas). Part of the tradition, for better or worse, is that the Wings have a fan-base devoted enough to exercise the tradition at other arenas. While I can sympathize with CBJ fans being upset at the tradition, I don't agree with the acts of violence enacted on some of the people throwing the Octopus at away arenas.
I can go along with the rest of your post, but this one gets kicked out. Your tradition stays in your arena, it's not transportable. If one of your fans throws dead creatures on our ice, the security team should be responsible to come (slowly) to their rescue. After sufficiently painful medical treatment, they should then be escorted to the far corner of a very dark parking lot and rolled out into the street. We don't come to the Joe with a cannon to celebrate our goals, you don't show up here with your crap.

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I can go along with the rest of your post, but this one gets kicked out. Your tradition stays in your arena, it's not transportable. If one of your fans throws dead creatures on our ice, the security team should be responsible to come (slowly) to their rescue. After sufficiently painful medical treatment, they should then be escorted to the far corner of a very dark parking lot and rolled out into the street. We don't come to the Joe with a cannon to celebrate our goals, you don't show up here with your crap.
To me, throwing an Octopus on the ice in a safe (assuming no one was hit, the Octopus was properly boiled so no 'goo' hits anyone, etc.) manner is not an excuse for violence. I can understand being upset and having some words for the fan, but assaulting them is not okay IMO. If that is an excuse for assault to you, then I'm not sure we should continue this discussion- I don't think either of us would change our opinion.

It is a hockey game and we are all hockey fans. The last thing I (and I hope all sports fans) want to see is another incident like the Giants fan seriously injured earlier this year.

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To me, throwing an Octopus on the ice in a safe (assuming no one was hit, the Octopus was properly boiled so no 'goo' hits anyone, etc.) manner is not an excuse for violence. I can understand being upset and having some words for the fan, but assaulting them is not okay IMO. If that is an excuse for assault to you, then I'm not sure we should continue this discussion- I don't think either of us would change our opinion.

It is a hockey game and we are all hockey fans. The last thing I (and I hope all sports fans) want to see is another incident like the Giants fan seriously injured earlier this year.
I'm quite sure neither of us will waiver in our opinions of this "tradition," so I'll end my efforts.

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Maybe we could start a tradition of "urine bagging" visiting fans who throw crap on the ice. After all, "It's a tradition". Besides, it would complement the crap we have to watch on the ice most of the time.

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I fully support the beating of anyone including our own fans that try to toss anything on the ice. Just because something is tradition does not mean it is right.


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To me, throwing an Octopus on the ice in a safe (assuming no one was hit, the Octopus was properly boiled so no 'goo' hits anyone, etc.) manner is not an excuse for violence. I can understand being upset and having some words for the fan, but assaulting them is not okay IMO. If that is an excuse for assault to you, then I'm not sure we should continue this discussion- I don't think either of us would change our opinion.

It is a hockey game and we are all hockey fans. The last thing I (and I hope all sports fans) want to see is another incident like the Giants fan seriously injured earlier this year.
I think we need a tradition of throwing our trash out onto the Wings home ice. And only the Wings. It's green and it will help out the Detroit economy. Hopefully it will cost Detroit 200k per green job.

Your "tradition" needs to stay at home. It's an insult to our fanbase and has no place in opposing teams arenas. Even the Rangers, Flyers, and Preds.

If your fans attempt to do it in our arena, they deserve what they get short of physical injuries. Personally I wouldn't mind see the Wings law, which would be a nice $500 fine and a nice overnight stay in one of Frankin Counties nicer accommodations for repeat offenders. It's a rather pointless law, but I wouldn't mind getting rid of anything hitting the ice outside of hats.

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Anyone seeing any cheap tix options for the Colorado game? I keep checking stubhub, but I would think with 9000 empty seats last night, it should be a better buyers market out there.

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