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10-12-2011, 11:21 AM
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What bothers me most is that he brings up the Chara revenge motive and says "Patcharetty got his next game" translation "he had it coming to him" and it gets buried.

Nobody interested in the attempted on ice murder anymore?

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I can't believe there's outrage that the three of them decided to pursue legal action. Lawsuits aren't just about money.

They were deliberately misrepresented on one of the most widely watched shows in Canada. This is defamation of character, they are right to seek an official record that Cherry twisted their words and attacked them. Unfortunately a lot of people do take Cherry seriously, and it's about time someone takes action against him.

Plus this will force the hand of the hypocrites at the CBC.
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That is exactly the point of many. Fighting is only serving an entertainment aspect. It has close to no relevance to the actual game anymore.

The object of the game of hockey is to put a puck in the opponent's net the most, and so, win the game, not fight or entertain people.
The objectives of the game from the perspective of the players and those that control the game are quite different.

In any given game those that control the NHL don't care who wins only how the game is viewed by the customer. Two men pummeling each other sells product.

As to whether it affects outcome who knows but I guess that it depends on the context - like hard hits and "big" saves and stupid penalties.

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I read that the HNIC in Canada brodcast was also shown in the US, so I wonder if there is avenue from the US courts because of that? If the guys decide to go that route, which they have not indicated, despite shoddy reporting to the contrary.

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I never said that they don't have a right to be offended or upset. All I'm saying is legal action is a joke. You don't like what was said and disagree with how he represented you, fine, deal with it with him or not, I don't really care. I don't really care that these guys may have had their feelings hurt, their supposed to be grown men for christ sakes.

If Don is forced to retire over this then they are equally or more guilty than him imo. Anyways, I agree that Cherry was a bit obnoxious and over the top, but disagree that legal action is appropriate. Not to mention, I don't think they would win a defamation case to begin with. A defamation case is very difficult to win. They sound like a bunch of babies.
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What bothers me most is that he brings up the Chara revenge motive and says "Patcharetty got his next game" translation "he had it coming to him" and it gets buried.

Nobody interested in the attempted on ice murder anymore?
Yup! Sad world isn't it? Not surprising though, unfortunately.

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I read that the HNIC in Canada brodcast was also shown in the US, so I wonder if there is avenue from the US courts because of that? If the guys decide to go that route, which they have not indicated, despite shoddy reporting to the contrary.
I live in the US and CBC is shown on Channel 19 here on cable.

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Into the fire: Five Habs hot topics

Into the fire: Five Habs hot topics



Just a few games into the 2011-2012 campaign and we are not lacking topics of discussion when it comes to the Montreal Canadiens. True that the team’s on-ice performance isn’t helping any, but the drama through the media and fan forums has everyone questioning everything so far in this very early season. Here are five of the hottest topics so far:


Andrei Markov

News came out that Habs’ defenseman Andrei Markov will stay in Florida for a third consecutive week. Rumours are circulating on the internet to the effect that the Canadiens’ management is not happy with the whole situation as they apparently had received confirmation from the medical staff that Markov was close to a return at 100%. This is a major setback for the organization that not only risked over $17 million on the Russian defenseman over a three year period, but gambled that he could return to form as well. As we know, Markov was skating on his own and GM Pierre Gauthier had announced that if Markov wasn’t ready for day one, he wouldn’t be missing much time in October. It will be interesting to see how things unfold in the next few weeks, but I’m thinking that if the rumours are true, there might be some high end lawyers looking into an out in this contract.

Scott Gomez

The overpaid center made no excuses at the end of last season when, in front of cameras and teammates, he acknowledged that had he played better, the Habs would still be in the playoffs. It was documented that he worked harder than he ever had this summer and showed some good things in pre-season. Unfortunately, he was not having the start of the season he was hoping for before injuring his shoulder (or upper body as they say) against the Penguins on Thursday...


Read the entire blog: Into the fire: Five Habs hot topics


Also, remember that I put the links in the very first post of this thread.

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10-23-2011, 08:21 AM
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Into the fire: Five Habs hot topics


Just a few games into the 2011-2012 campaign and we are not lacking topics of discussion when it comes to the Montreal Canadiens. True that the team’s on-ice performance isn’t helping any, but the drama through the media and fan forums has everyone questioning everything so far in this very early season. Here are five of the hottest topics so far:


Andrei Markov

News came out that Habs’ defenseman Andrei Markov will stay in Florida for a third consecutive week. Rumours are circulating on the internet to the effect that the Canadiens’ management is not happy with the whole situation as they apparently had received confirmation from the medical staff that Markov was close to a return at 100%. This is a major setback for the organization that not only risked over $17 million on the Russian defenseman over a three year period, but gambled that he could return to form as well. As we know, Markov was skating on his own and GM Pierre Gauthier had announced that if Markov wasn’t ready for day one, he wouldn’t be missing much time in October. It will be interesting to see how things unfold in the next few weeks, but I’m thinking that if the rumours are true, there might be some high end lawyers looking into an out in this contract.

Scott Gomez

The overpaid center made no excuses at the end of last season when, in front of cameras and teammates, he acknowledged that had he played better, the Habs would still be in the playoffs. It was documented that he worked harder than he ever had this summer and showed some good things in pre-season. Unfortunately, he was not having the start of the season he was hoping for before injuring his shoulder (or upper body as they say) against the Penguins on Thursday...


Read the entire blog: Into the fire: Five Habs hot topics


Also, remember that I put the links in the very first post of this thread.
IMO the hottest topic without a doubt is Andrei Markov. Pierre Gauthier did a great job of signing some young d-men this year in Emelin and Diaz. But Gauthier did an absolute horrible job in preparing the D for another Markov absence.

History shows just how many injuries this D can suffer and PG had no backup plan. He should fire himself before he fires JM because he simply didn't prepare for the "what if" that's been so prevalent the last few years.

Pierre Gauthier has a real mess on his hands - one that he created. It will be interesting to see if he makes JM the scapegoat.

You wanna blame Martin for using Hal Gill in OT last night? He simply didn't have many choices. He took the option that Gauthier afforded him instead being able to use another top four d-man that Gauthier should have prioritized over the summer.

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IMO the hottest topic without a doubt is Andrei Markov. Pierre Gauthier did a great job of signing some young d-men this year in Emelin and Diaz. But Gauthier did an absolute horrible job in preparing the D for another Markov absence.

History shows just how many injuries this D can suffer and PG had no backup plan. He should fire himself before he fires JM because he simply didn't prepare for the "what if" that's been so prevalent the last few years.

Pierre Gauthier has a real mess on his hands - one that he created. It will be interesting to see if he makes JM the scapegoat.

You wanna blame Martin for using Hal Gill in OT last night? He simply didn't have many choices. He took the option that Gauthier afforded him instead being able to use another top four d-man that Gauthier should have prioritized over the summer.
Man I'm really getting tired of people blaming our losses on the D. IMO, the only poisitive that you can find this season is how good the D has played without Markov. Once Subban finds his groove back there is no concern on the back-end other then finding a meaner hard-hitting D to replace Gill next season. The problem (again) is Martin. Just look at the power-play, instead of setting up Subban-Weber or Subban-Diaz to try to re-create the Wiz chemistry from last season, he's set on putting Plekanec there where it's more then obvious that the passing angles are just not good for the famous one-timer shot because Plecky really has to turn his body towards Subban and it's just not in his game to play that way. Let's say Markov comes back tomorrow, who's your pick out of the line-up? Diz? Weber? Emelin? All 3 are playing well imo.

Get a REAL 4th line that can counter the energy our opponents get from their 4th line against us and make better line-ups, it's something to start with that will make quite an improvement imo.

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Man I'm really getting tired of people blaming our losses on the D. IMO, the only poisitive that you can find this season is how good the D has played without Markov. Once Subban finds his groove back there is no concern on the back-end other then finding a meaner hard-hitting D to replace Gill next season. The problem (again) is Martin. Just look at the power-play, instead of setting up Subban-Weber or Subban-Diaz to try to re-create the Wiz chemistry from last season, he's set on putting Plekanec there where it's more then obvious that the passing angles are just not good for the famous one-timer shot because Plecky really has to turn his body towards Subban and it's just not in his game to play that way. Let's say Markov comes back tomorrow, who's your pick out of the line-up? Diz? Weber? Emelin? All 3 are playing well imo.

Get a REAL 4th line that can counter the energy our opponents get from their 4th line against us and make better line-ups, it's something to start with that will make quite an improvement imo.
You really missed the point. I'm blaming Gauthier for not preparing the D for injuries especially with Markov on the roster. Never once did I blame Diaz or Emelin in fact I said they were great signings. And YOU even mention replacing Gill next season. That should have been done THIS season and he should have been replaced with another top 4 bonafide d-man. He wasn't. Many claimed Gorges could do what Hamrlik did and clearly at this stage he can't. I'm not totally blaming the D but don't imply it could not have been better prepared. I just don't believe that.

Who was responsible for signing Markov and interpreting the info for him to be ready? That isn't JM's responsibility. That is Gauthier's. Who let Roman Hamrlik walk? I gave to Gauthier but he also gets some blame here.

You blame Martin and then end by saying "get a REAL 4th line"? You wanna know what Halpern is doing in Washington?

The Habs haven't had Markov for a while but they learned to manage. What changed that now they can't? That's on Gauthier.

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I truthfully don't know if Gauthier can be blamed for the whole Markov ordeal. From what I've heard, he's done his homework and got confirmation from the team's doctors that he would be at 100% and should be ready on time for the start of the season. This whole story with Markov insisting on seeing his specialist and mostly spending 3-4 weeks in Florida is extremely fishy...

But I'm certainly not ready to let Martin off the hook that easily. Gauthier pulled a minor trade today, a trade which doesn't address the needs of the team. Tony Marinaro says that Jay Bouwmeester is on the market and I won't say the source as only Eklund is "legit" here, but it seems like the Habs are after him. If they do that, it will be another Gomez-type trade where they'll regret it for years to come... unless they can unload Markov and even then.

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I truthfully don't know if Gauthier can be blamed for the whole Markov ordeal. From what I've heard, he's done his homework and got confirmation from the team's doctors that he would be at 100% and should be ready on time for the start of the season. This whole story with Markov insisting on seeing his specialist and mostly spending 3-4 weeks in Florida is extremely fishy...

But I'm certainly not ready to let Martin off the hook that easily. Gauthier pulled a minor trade today, a trade which doesn't address the needs of the team. Tony Marinaro says that Jay Bouwmeester is on the market and I won't say the source as only Eklund is "legit" here, but it seems like the Habs are after him. If they do that, it will be another Gomez-type trade where they'll regret it for years to come... unless they can unload Markov and even then.
2 things. 1st off, what is so fishy abou the Markov staying in Florida thing? And most importantly, who said that the Habs were after Bowmeester? It's ok name a source in a thread, just don't start st any new ones over somebody that's not considered legit.

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I truthfully don't know if Gauthier can be blamed for the whole Markov ordeal. From what I've heard, he's done his homework and got confirmation from the team's doctors that he would be at 100% and should be ready on time for the start of the season. This whole story with Markov insisting on seeing his specialist and mostly spending 3-4 weeks in Florida is extremely fishy...

But I'm certainly not ready to let Martin off the hook that easily. Gauthier pulled a minor trade today, a trade which doesn't address the needs of the team. Tony Marinaro says that Jay Bouwmeester is on the market and I won't say the source as only Eklund is "legit" here, but it seems like the Habs are after him. If they do that, it will be another Gomez-type trade where they'll regret it for years to come... unless they can unload Markov and even then.
Even if Gauthier thought he had good information he should have been prepared given Markov's history. And even if Markov could have started the season I always felt the team needed another top four d-man just in case.

Anyway I found your blog interesting and it will be interesting to see what happens with Markov. I found it fishy when it was announced he wouldn't require a third surgery. I mean who knew that was even a possibility?

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IMO the hottest topic without a doubt is Andrei Markov. Pierre Gauthier did a great job of signing some young d-men this year in Emelin and Diaz. But Gauthier did an absolute horrible job in preparing the D for another Markov absence.

History shows just how many injuries this D can suffer and PG had no backup plan. He should fire himself before he fires JM because he simply didn't prepare for the "what if" that's been so prevalent the last few years.

Pierre Gauthier has a real mess on his hands - one that he created. It will be interesting to see if he makes JM the scapegoat.

You wanna blame Martin for using Hal Gill in OT last night? He simply didn't have many choices. He took the option that Gauthier afforded him instead being able to use another top four d-man that Gauthier should have prioritized over the summer.
His mess will eventually fix itself once we get bodies back. How far we fall behind before, is up to the players and coach.

I was prepared for a relatively weak defense until Markov's return but I thought an improved offense would somewhat offset it, enough to at least give Markov time to heal.

What I wasn't prepared for was for Spacek and Campoli to go down with long term injuries within the first 2 games.

Apparently, depleting an already weak stop-gap defense isn't making anyone look good. Go figure.

Now that we're here, either the coach needs to find a way to win a few with the players he has, or the GM gets us outside help sooner than later.

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2 things. 1st off, what is so fishy abou the Markov staying in Florida thing? And most importantly, who said that the Habs were after Bowmeester? It's ok name a source in a thread, just don't start st any new ones over somebody that's not considered legit.
1- I find fishy the fact that his rehab was on track, he signed his contract, was skating, spoke to the media and everything was good, Gauthier said that if Markov wasn't ready for the start of the season, he wouldn't miss much in early october... then pow! He's secretly flying to Florida (a fan took a picture of him at the airport), and his stay keeps being extended. You may not find that fishy, that's okay. I do...

2- I've been here too long to know that only Eklund is considered as "legit" in the non-traditional media. No sense in naming anyone, although their track record is very much comparable. I did however mention Marinaro of Team 990.

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1- I find fishy the fact that his rehab was on track, he signed his contract, was skating, spoke to the media and everything was good, Gauthier said that if Markov wasn't ready for the start of the season, he wouldn't miss much in early october... then pow! He's secretly flying to Florida (a fan took a picture of him at the airport), and his stay keeps being extended. You may not find that fishy, that's okay. I do...

2- I've been here too long to know that only Eklund is considered as "legit" in the non-traditional media. No sense in naming anyone, although their track record is very much comparable. I did however mention Marinaro of Team 990.
About Markov, forgot to add that some finger pointing started happening when Markov was claiming that he was working out on his own with no support from team doctors... adding to the fishy feeling.

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About Markov, forgot to add that some finger pointing started happening when Markov was claiming that he was working out on his own with no support from team doctors... adding to the fishy feeling.
What exactly is it that you're implying? That he re-injured his knee? Lying from the start? Not interested in helping the team?

Why so vague?

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What exactly is it that you're implying? That he re-injured his knee? Lying from the start? Not interested in helping the team?

Why so vague?
I don't know. I don't have the answers. Ask Markov.

I simply said that something seems fishy to me in this whole story. Gut feeling, no more, no less.

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Back to the Future: Habs Marc Bergevin on a tough mission



When in 1909, Ambrose O’Brien and Jimmy Gardner came out with the idea to create a powerful team of French-speaking hockey players and name it Les Canadiens, little did they know that for years to come, the debate would still be raging strong in the hearts of its immense fan base.

We will not get into the language debate at this time, but for those interested, we did look at the impact of local players on the Canadiens in this article back in August 2011.

When Serge Savard was asked by Geoff Molson to help him find the new General Manager to bring the pride back to an organisation in dire need, the underlying issue of local products on the team was evident. When he was GM in Montreal, Savard believed in having French Canadians form a core of his teams and while today’s landscape is different today, it looks as though Bergevin shares a similar understanding of the Montreal market place. During his press conference, he was clear about wanting a bilingual head coach and he also mentioned that one amateur scout was not enough for the QMJHL. This news promises to be unpopular for many, but is reassuring for many others.

But how exactly, in a time when few local talents are being drafted and making it to the NHL, could Bergevin turn the Habs’ prospect pool into one that would give the team a chance to have some of the few with a chance to make it? There is definitely no easy solution, but Bergevin comes across as the type of person who is not afraid to do what he feels is right.

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When in 1909, Ambrose O’Brien and Jimmy Gardner came out with the idea to create a powerful team of French-speaking hockey players and name it Les Canadiens, little did they know that for years to come, the debate would still be raging strong in the hearts of its immense fan base.

We will not get into the language debate at this time, but for those interested, we did look at the impact of local players on the Canadiens in this article back in August 2011.

When Serge Savard was asked by Geoff Molson to help him find the new General Manager to bring the pride back to an organisation in dire need, the underlying issue of local products on the team was evident. When he was GM in Montreal, Savard believed in having French Canadians form a core of his teams and while today’s landscape is different today, it looks as though Bergevin shares a similar understanding of the Montreal market place. During his press conference, he was clear about wanting a bilingual head coach and he also mentioned that one amateur scout was not enough for the QMJHL. This news promises to be unpopular for many, but is reassuring for many others.

But how exactly, in a time when few local talents are being drafted and making it to the NHL, could Bergevin turn the Habs’ prospect pool into one that would give the team a chance to have some of the few with a chance to make it? There is definitely no easy solution, but Bergevin comes across as the type of person who is not afraid to do what he feels is right.

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Interesting stuff. I'd be an extremely happy man if they could somehow get Samuel Noreau. Doesn't look much on the scoresheet, but his game improved dramatically this season. Noreau isn't likely to amount to much more than, say, Matt Carkner, but that's the kind of guy that is certainly interesting. Noreau was gone since two picks, when Montreal picked Darren Dietz in 2011 -- not that Dietz is a bad pick (actually, far from it).

Speaking of Dietz, since Montreal WILL pick a D-Men at some point, I'd really like the team to pick Dalton Thrower with the 2nd rounder (if he isn't gone). Besides, aside from possibly Matteau, there's no Quebec player who should actually be drafted THAT high. Matheson, possibly?

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Interesting stuff. I'd be an extremely happy man if they could somehow get Samuel Noreau. Doesn't look much on the scoresheet, but his game improved dramatically this season. Noreau isn't likely to amount to much more than, say, Matt Carkner, but that's the kind of guy that is certainly interesting. Noreau was gone since two picks, when Montreal picked Darren Dietz in 2011 -- not that Dietz is a bad pick (actually, far from it).

Speaking of Dietz, since Montreal WILL pick a D-Men at some point, I'd really like the team to pick Dalton Thrower with the 2nd rounder (if he isn't gone). Besides, aside from possibly Matteau, there's no Quebec player who should actually be drafted THAT high. Matheson, possibly?
Doing the research, I was surprised to see the quality in most of those prospects. Also, some of the existing players could be attainable at a reasonable price.

Someone would be hard pressed to convince me that Maxim Lapierre, now that Gauthier and Martin aren't running (or ruining) the show, couldn't have done as well as Halpern and Nokoleinen. Eric Belanger would be of great help for a team struggling on face-offs, especially in their own zone. Just a few examples.

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Doing the research, I was surprised to see the quality in most of those prospects. Also, some of the existing players could be attainable at a reasonable price.

Someone would be hard pressed to convince me that Maxim Lapierre, now that Gauthier and Martin aren't running (or ruining) the show, couldn't have done as well as Halpern and Nokoleinen. Eric Belanger would be of great help for a team struggling on face-offs, especially in their own zone. Just a few examples.
Halps and Nokes aren't aholes like Lapierre. Give it time and he'll wear out his welcome in Vancouver too.

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Doing the research, I was surprised to see the quality in most of those prospects. Also, some of the existing players could be attainable at a reasonable price.

Someone would be hard pressed to convince me that Maxim Lapierre, now that Gauthier and Martin aren't running (or ruining) the show, couldn't have done as well as Halpern and Nokoleinen. Eric Belanger would be of great help for a team struggling on face-offs, especially in their own zone. Just a few examples.
The thing is --- you don't want to reach/overpay for most of those guys. The Daneault/Paradis connection is interesting.

However... let's say that Detroit really want one of our players for a playoffs run next season (let's say, Brian Gionta). Then we'd be crazy not to tell them something like : don't even think of a deal if Xavier Ouellet isn't going our way.

Lapierre is certainly a better player than Nokelainen. Halpern? Well, it depends. I really liked him in Montreal. But Lapierre could have been playing wing, and was certainly better than Mike Blunden.

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The thing is --- you don't want to reach/overpay for most of those guys. The Daneault/Paradis connection is interesting.

However... let's say that Detroit really want one of our players for a playoffs run next season (let's say, Brian Gionta). Then we'd be crazy not to tell them something like : don't even think of a deal if Xavier Ouellet isn't going our way.

Lapierre is certainly a better player than Nokelainen. Halpern? Well, it depends. I really liked him in Montreal. But Lapierre could have been playing wing, and was certainly better than Mike Blunden.
Fully agreed about not overpaying. I'd overpay a bit for some of the prospects, like Huberdeau, Despres, Savard... Most on both lists though would come fairly cheap. I'm thinking that if we're going to take a flyer on some mid-range prospects, why not make it on guys who likely grew up dreaming of wearing the uniform? It's the X factor at times.

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[THE INSTIGATOR] Open letter to Geoff Molson

Open letter to Geoff Molson



As the talks are stalling and the threat of a lockout become more and more of a reality, fans are left wondering where they stand in the big picture, keeping some hope that somewhere, someone is working for them behind the scene in this battle between millionaires and billionaires.

We, as fans, understand that the NHL is a business and while we may not be “in the know” when it comes to the details of what’s being discussed behind closed doors amongst Governors and during the CBA negotiations, we understand that labour talks are not easy. We’ve read reports that some teams can’t keep up with the cap floor and that some are pretty much guaranteed to lose money before the puck is dropped to start the season and that, in spite of a hard salary cap and some sort of revenue sharing. We, fans, want the NHL to be healthy and we want our favourite sport to thrive.

Fans also understand that the players are loved and that they are the reason why we like the game. Players are the ones being idolized, they are the ones signing autographs, attending different events and giving their time to different charity events and making public appearances. They play a huge role in our love for the game. But fans understand that for that to happen, owners need to have profitable franchises.

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