HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > Prospects
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

Prospects Discuss hockey prospects from all over the world and the NHL Draft.

LW Reid Boucher (2011, 99th overall, New Jersey)

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
10-11-2011, 01:33 AM
  #1
KanetoToews2883
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 305
vCash: 500
LW Reid Boucher (2011, 99th overall, New Jersey)

Reid Boucher was a name that went flying up the draft board with a strong close to his 2010-2011 season in the US-Developmental Camp and a strong World Junior competition. He was one of the (if not the youngest) players taken in the 2011 draft. He's one month younger than Neil Yakupov who is eligible in 2012.

My question is if you had to rank him today in the 2012 draft class, where would he fit?

KanetoToews2883 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-11-2011, 01:38 AM
  #2
SMantzas
Church of Corsi
 
SMantzas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Mount Laurel, NJ
Country: United States
Posts: 3,284
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by KanetoToews2883 View Post
Reid Boucher was a name that went flying up the draft board with a strong close to his 2010-2011 season in the US-Developmental Camp and a strong World Junior competition. He was one of the (if not the youngest) players taken in the 2011 draft. He's one month younger than Neil Yakupov who is eligible in 2012.

My question is if you had to rank him today in the 2012 draft class, where would he fit?
im not familiar with the 2012 draft, but I cant be happier with this pick. I think he can turn a good sniper at the nhl level

SMantzas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-11-2011, 12:45 PM
  #3
R S
Renegade Stylings
 
R S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 24,077
vCash: 420
Probably around the same area as he was picked.

R S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-11-2011, 12:52 PM
  #4
Saugus
Ecrasez l'infame!
 
Saugus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Connecticut
Country: United States
Posts: 97,500
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to Saugus
He's still a project pick, with a great shot but little else as of yet. He needs work on skating and defence, and getting bigger wouldn't hurt. Even if he puts up great numbers with Sarnia, I'm not sure how much his draft ranking would have changed.

Saugus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-11-2011, 12:52 PM
  #5
dream catcher
Registered User
 
dream catcher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 551
vCash: 500
3rd or 4th round. He has an incredible shot, but still needs to work on his skating and all-around game.

dream catcher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-11-2011, 02:38 PM
  #6
Qubax
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 3,009
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Renegade Stylings View Post
Probably around the same area as he was picked.
I disagree.

Sometimes being young works in your favor because everyone looks at the potential and promise and looks glass half full at any of your accomplishments....(and maybe that is what the OP is driving at).

...but I think in Boucher's case this is overshadowed by the fact that now that Boucher is getting a LOT of exposure playing in the best developmental league in hockey(OHL-CHL), he'll be likely to go higher had he been 2012 eligible.

(The OHL especially has a great track record with top stars, and well, Fail for Nail).

Let's say Yakupov gets 115 points he's going to go first overall. If Boucher who is a teammate, at times linemate, is only 1 month older, if he were eligible for the same draft and put up 55 goals and say 40 assists for 95 points, you think he'd go 4th round?

Even if Boucher is the Zach Phillips bridesmade after Bealieau and after Huberdeau, you'd still expect him to go waaay higher then the 4th round.

just my 2 cents.

Qubax is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-11-2011, 02:53 PM
  #7
BigBlue11
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 137
vCash: 500
Sounds a lot like Jeremy Morin to me

BigBlue11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-11-2011, 03:34 PM
  #8
dougiebrown
Registered User
 
dougiebrown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: New Jersey
Country: United States
Posts: 1,738
vCash: 500
Are we having this conversation if Boucher hadn't scored a hat trick on Saturday night?

dougiebrown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-11-2011, 03:41 PM
  #9
Qubax
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 3,009
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by dougiebrown View Post
Are we having this conversation if Boucher hadn't scored a hat trick on Saturday night?
I didn't even know that. Good to hear he's doing well.

Okay, I looked up his stats just now:

6-5-0-5, -1

geez it looks like an Emerson Etem stat line.

So fair Bouch is a far cry below Nail 7-5-11-16

Whoa Sarnia also has Brett Richie and Rensfeldt,

When does Galchenyuk get healthy?

Qubax is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-11-2011, 05:35 PM
  #10
dean youngblood82
HFB Partner
 
Join Date: May 2011
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,294
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Qubax View Post
I didn't even know that. Good to hear he's doing well.

Okay, I looked up his stats just now:

6-5-0-5, -1

geez it looks like an Emerson Etem stat line.

So fair Bouch is a far cry below Nail 7-5-11-16

Whoa Sarnia also has Brett Richie and Rensfeldt,

When does Galchenyuk get healthy?
Galchenyuk is back late November or December. His return is still up in the air.

Living in Sarnia, I have watched Boucher play over the last month and he's got a tremendous shot - one of the best in the league. However, Boucher needs to develop the other areas of his game in order to justify a higher draft position. He was one of my favourite players entering the 2011 draft and was surprised to see a team not take him higher but I can certainly see why people dubbed him as a "project pick".

His shot is his greatest skill but he's not very good at handling the puck or beating defenders with either speed or strength. To date, I have seen several instances where he's caused turnovers because of his average puck skills. Hopefully Boucher will improve in that area because if he does NJ grabbed a hell of a prospect.

dean youngblood82 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-14-2011, 09:43 PM
  #11
Jason MacIsaac
MARS Officer
 
Jason MacIsaac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Victoria, BC
Country: Canada
Posts: 16,490
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to Jason MacIsaac Send a message via Yahoo to Jason MacIsaac
3 goals and 2 assists tonight to give him 8 goals and 2 assists in 7 games. How bad is his skating at this point. I have heard he has also missed quite a few tap in scoring chances so his ability to get open seems to be a strength of his. Would his skill set be comparable to a very very poor man Brett Hull? By no means do I think he will reach a lick of Hull's potential or even make the NHL but does he play from the high slot?

Jason MacIsaac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-14-2011, 10:16 PM
  #12
The Great Dame
Blame Pete
 
The Great Dame's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NJ
Country: United States
Posts: 2,591
vCash: 500
I can't believe how well we drafted in 2011. Larsson, Boucher, Coleman, and Scarlett all seem pretty legit to me.

The Great Dame is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-14-2011, 10:18 PM
  #13
Jason MacIsaac
MARS Officer
 
Jason MacIsaac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Victoria, BC
Country: Canada
Posts: 16,490
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to Jason MacIsaac Send a message via Yahoo to Jason MacIsaac
Quote:
Originally Posted by bnots13 View Post
I can't believe how well we drafted in 2011. Larsson, Boucher, Coleman, and Scarlett all seem pretty legit to me.
Why stop there Patrick Daly was on the second pair as a true freshmen first weekend for Wisconsin and Blake Pietila is putting up points as a freshmen. Couldn't have asked for a better start but that's all it is at this point...a start.

Jason MacIsaac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-14-2011, 11:11 PM
  #14
The Great Dame
Blame Pete
 
The Great Dame's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NJ
Country: United States
Posts: 2,591
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason MacIsaac View Post
Why stop there Patrick Daly was on the second pair as a true freshmen first weekend for Wisconsin and Blake Pietila is putting up points as a freshmen. Couldn't have asked for a better start but that's all it is at this point...a start.
Also very true, Daly had those insane stats out of high school.

The Great Dame is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-14-2011, 11:31 PM
  #15
Saugus
Ecrasez l'infame!
 
Saugus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Connecticut
Country: United States
Posts: 97,500
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to Saugus
Boucher's numbers have been very good so far. Clearly he can produce when used with talented players.

Saugus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-15-2011, 01:18 AM
  #16
WhiskeyYourTheDevils
Registered User
 
WhiskeyYourTheDevils's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Raleigh, NC
Country: United States
Posts: 8,756
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason MacIsaac View Post
3 goals and 2 assists tonight to give him 8 goals and 2 assists in 7 games. How bad is his skating at this point. I have heard he has also missed quite a few tap in scoring chances so his ability to get open seems to be a strength of his. Would his skill set be comparable to a very very poor man Brett Hull? By no means do I think he will reach a lick of Hull's potential or even make the NHL but does he play from the high slot?
seems like he could have a legit shot at 50+ goals this year. Not bad in what really could be considered his draft year (he's like 1 month older than yakupov).

WhiskeyYourTheDevils is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
10-15-2011, 11:43 AM
  #17
John-Eric Iannicello
Hockey's Future Staff
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Windsor
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,299
vCash: 500
I really liked Boucher at the draft. He has that natural ability to just score goals. Finds those open areas of the ice and just gets there. There's just an X factor about him that I really like, even if other areas of his game are weak, they area areas he can work on.

__________________
Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/JE_Iannicello
John-Eric Iannicello is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-16-2011, 12:11 AM
  #18
DeViLzzz*
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Sarnia
Country: Canada
Posts: 427
vCash: 500
He has some nice numbers so far but ...

He has some nice numbers so far but you would not believe how many chances he has blown. I saw a preseason game and a regular season game where I just wanted to pull my hair out watching him play. His numbers I think will be inflated by playing with some players that are actually better than him (Yakupov, Rensfeldt and so on) so don't get too excited about what he does with the Sting unless he gets more consistent out there.

DeViLzzz* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-16-2011, 01:07 AM
  #19
dream catcher
Registered User
 
dream catcher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 551
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeViLzzz View Post
He has some nice numbers so far but you would not believe how many chances he has blown. I saw a preseason game and a regular season game where I just wanted to pull my hair out watching him play. His numbers I think will be inflated by playing with some players that are actually better than him (Yakupov, Rensfeldt and so on) so don't get too excited about what he does with the Sting unless he gets more consistent out there.
the fact that he is in position for so many scoring chances is a positive IMO.

dream catcher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-16-2011, 09:58 PM
  #20
Jared Ramsden
Hockey's Future Staff
 
Jared Ramsden's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Calgary
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,212
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to Jared Ramsden Send a message via MSN to Jared Ramsden Send a message via Yahoo to Jared Ramsden
Quote:
Originally Posted by John-Eric Iannicello View Post
I really liked Boucher at the draft. He has that natural ability to just score goals. Finds those open areas of the ice and just gets there. There's just an X factor about him that I really like, even if other areas of his game are weak, they area areas he can work on.
That's a perfect sum of his skills. Though he may be lacking in other areas, you can't teach the insticts and natural goal scoring ability that Boucher appears to have in spades. From the highlights I've seen, he just seems to gravitate to the open areas in the attack end. He's got a nose for the net and an A+ shot. If he's paired with and elite playmaker that can pass him the puck, he's going to have no problem scoring.

__________________
"I couldn't care less about the team struggling"....A very drunk Joe Namath

2011-12: The start of a new making the playoffs streak!

Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/CalDevil3219
Jared Ramsden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-22-2011, 11:59 PM
  #21
Jason MacIsaac
MARS Officer
 
Jason MacIsaac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Victoria, BC
Country: Canada
Posts: 16,490
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to Jason MacIsaac Send a message via Yahoo to Jason MacIsaac
If Boucher were to put up 50 + goals this year, where would he go in the draft had he been born a few days later. Would it still be a case similar to Nigel Dawes? In this strong draft could he go early 2nd?

Jason MacIsaac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-23-2011, 01:07 AM
  #22
dean youngblood82
HFB Partner
 
Join Date: May 2011
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,294
vCash: 500
Reid scored a couple more goals tonight including one BEA-UT-I-FAL snipe in the dying minutes of the game to tie it up for Sarnia. I will post the highlight when I come across it.

dean youngblood82 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-23-2011, 01:50 AM
  #23
BluechipBulletin
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 345
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Qubax View Post
I disagree.

Sometimes being young works in your favor because everyone looks at the potential and promise and looks glass half full at any of your accomplishments....(and maybe that is what the OP is driving at).

...but I think in Boucher's case this is overshadowed by the fact that now that Boucher is getting a LOT of exposure playing in the best developmental league in hockey(OHL-CHL), he'll be likely to go higher had he been 2012 eligible.

(The OHL especially has a great track record with top stars, and well, Fail for Nail).

Let's say Yakupov gets 115 points he's going to go first overall. If Boucher who is a teammate, at times linemate, is only 1 month older, if he were eligible for the same draft and put up 55 goals and say 40 assists for 95 points, you think he'd go 4th round?

Even if Boucher is the Zach Phillips bridesmade after Bealieau and after Huberdeau, you'd still expect him to go waaay higher then the 4th round.

just my 2 cents.
It's hard to get more exposure than the NTDP. There isn't a CHL team more heavily scouted than the NTDP.

BluechipBulletin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-23-2011, 01:50 AM
  #24
BluechipBulletin
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 345
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBlue11 View Post
Sounds a lot like Jeremy Morin to me
Boucher doesn't have Morin's wheels. Morin doesn't have Boucher's shot.

BluechipBulletin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-23-2011, 02:10 AM
  #25
Parise9Crosby87
Registered User
 
Parise9Crosby87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: boca raton florida
Country: United States
Posts: 2,535
vCash: 500
hes really beast this year

Parise9Crosby87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:23 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.