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10-14-2011, 05:11 PM
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and of course marinaro would never invent or spread rumors...
He has been 100% correct on everything regarding Markov and his injury. He had the injury way before anyone else did, and everyone called it BS, though he was proven correct, with both knee injuries actually...

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10-14-2011, 05:18 PM
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I'd love to see a Pacioretty-Eller-Kostitsyn line later in the season.. or now.

When Cammy comes back we should roll with

Cole-Plekanec-Cammalleri
Pacioretty-Eller-Kostitsyn

And why can't JM have a first PP unit of Subban quaterbacking it and having Webber as his pair??
really like these lines

but JM will never give 3rd line minutes to Gionta and Moen or DD can't play top6 minutes when our line up is healthy.

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10-14-2011, 05:32 PM
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Eller at Wing is Fail.

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10-14-2011, 05:51 PM
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it is start of season now is the time for everyone to get settled in and JM can find combos that work.

Diaz looked good last night, as did weber. i like to see more from emelin because i know he can be good.

need to take pleks off the point on the pp.

put him back down low where he is most effective.

Weber-Subban

that is where is is at on the pp. two right handed D on point they will work well just like subban and wiz.

also Diaz-Emelin i would like to see Emelin on the point, he has a nice shot.

as for lines i do not understand his obsession of Moen. i guess he thinks that Moen works hard so he will force that line to work harder but imo he has no place in top 6.

someone posted this, i like it

Pacioretty - Eller - Kostitsyn
Desharnais - Plekanec - Cole
Palushaj - Gomez - Gionta
Darche - Engqvist - Moen

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10-14-2011, 05:52 PM
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Wow, great with the DD bashing...

Isn't there other players who make more than 700k who deserve more blame... come on, he's still a rookie for **** sake. He hasn't been good, but guess what... so did the vast majority of the players...
The problem is everyone was ready to anoint him as the second line centre going into the season. It's not his fault, just Habs fans being Habs fans.

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10-14-2011, 06:25 PM
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You guys are such haters. Just wait and see before hating on JM and Desharnais. Paccioretty and Desharnais were the **** when then played together in Hamilton. I'd rather see them than Gomez on the 2nd.

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10-14-2011, 06:52 PM
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I dont know if it was just me, but I thought palushaj looked good yesterday!

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10-14-2011, 07:26 PM
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The absence of Cammalleri and Campoli imposes constraints. Jiggle Rubik's cube until something clicks? Who knows, the Habs might get lucky for a game or two. I don't like Gorges on the power play. Other than that, I have no prejudices. I'd even consider putting Emelin nos-to-nose with the goaltender.

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10-14-2011, 08:15 PM
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If all of u knows that eller at wing is fail, i guess the coaching management knows that too. But the thing, is with the absence of mike, it's good idea to get eller on the wing with plekanec so he cant get his first goal of the season and let his season roll early. Anyone can be a good winger with plekanec. Plekanec have proved that the last couple of years with the habs. Having a smart player like eller there isn't a disaster. It can get his season rolling after getting his 1st goal. (remember last year he struggled a lot to get this 1st goal, all nhl players admit that the 1st goal in the season remove a load of pressure of ur shoulders, especially youngesters) and the earlier u get it , the better it is. its obvious that eller is better as a center, but it wont kill him some winger time with plekanec. Less responsibility comes when playing on the wing., so he can have more an offensive approach for the game.
One more thing is that people are complaining about DD on the PP, DD is a great power play specialist. He has a great skill that coaches love to win battles and restart the cycling of the puck. He wins battles by anticipation and good hockey sense.

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10-14-2011, 08:20 PM
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Eller was one of our best forwards yesterday, why put him at wing where he's less effective?
I agree he should be center, but wasn't he wing yesterday? Maybe he isn't comfortable with faceoffs yet either.

I don't really like Kostitsyn with Desharnais, but i'm excited to see Patches with DD.

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10-14-2011, 08:55 PM
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Despite the fact it's only been 3 games and that "management knows best", I agree with most posters here.

I don't know how much experience playing on the wing Eller needs or how much Habs need him at that position but the results seem fruitless every time this has been tried. At one point, I'd like to see him at center and remain there for the rest of his career. Some have compared Plekanec's start with the team, playing on the 3rd or 4th line but, although I don't remember, I doubt he was playing on the wing. Cammalleri injured is a poor excuse: Eller on the wing is certainly not the best option.

I like Desharnais but like some of you, I haven't been impressed with his play. His lack of physicality appears to be more evident. But he still does well on PP.

I wanted DD-Eller-AK on the 3rd line but I like go_habs_go line up of:

Cammy-Plek-Cole
DD-Gomez-Gionta
MaxPac-Eller-AK

Wouldn't necessarily give Eller's line top minutes but I think this will be worth a try. DD and Gomez on the same line, as montreal's little scenario suggested, would only be efficient if Gionta can put it in. Otherwise, we'll see a lot of passing around with very few shots. Worst case scenario, this line would raise the percentage of puck possession.

One more thing about the coaching: I wish he would make up his mind with his lines and defense pairings and stick to it for a while. When it doesn't work for a shift or two, he modifies them all. Last night, I think everyone played with everyone else.

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10-14-2011, 09:56 PM
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Would like to see:AK-Pleks-DD
Patch-Eller-Cole
darche-gomez-gionta
Just until Cammy gets back then u switch him with DD....I think that second line would be awesome.Speed,intensity,size, and talent...

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10-14-2011, 10:08 PM
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You spend 4 million bucks a season on a BIG guy(Cole). Please just drop him on a line with our best players & park him in front of the Net on the PP. Let's try it & see what happens, I know it's only 3 games in but Cole on the 3rd line is obviously a Coach Martin thing. It's very frustrating!

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10-14-2011, 11:03 PM
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Despite the fact it's only been 3 games and that "management knows best", I agree with most posters here.

I don't know how much experience playing on the wing Eller needs or how much Habs need him at that position but the results seem fruitless every time this has been tried. At one point, I'd like to see him at center and remain there for the rest of his career. Some have compared Plekanec's start with the team, playing on the 3rd or 4th line but, although I don't remember, I doubt he was playing on the wing. Cammalleri injured is a poor excuse: Eller on the wing is certainly not the best option.

I like Desharnais but like some of you, I haven't been impressed with his play. His lack of physicality appears to be more evident. But he still does well on PP.

I wanted DD-Eller-AK on the 3rd line but I like go_habs_go line up of:

Cammy-Plek-Cole
DD-Gomez-Gionta
MaxPac-Eller-AK

Wouldn't necessarily give Eller's line top minutes but I think this will be worth a try. DD and Gomez on the same line, as montreal's little scenario suggested, would only be efficient if Gionta can put it in. Otherwise, we'll see a lot of passing around with very few shots. Worst case scenario, this line would raise the percentage of puck possession.

One more thing about the coaching: I wish he would make up his mind with his lines and defense pairings and stick to it for a while. When it doesn't work for a shift or two, he modifies them all. Last night, I think everyone played with everyone else.
Have you given any thought to how diminutive the Desharnais-Gomez-Gionta line would be? Unfortunately, most of the Habs forwards stopped growing at any early age.

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The night patches got hit, he said that all he had was a minor concussion on team 990.
Only because that's what Dr.Recchi told him.

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Have you given any thought to how diminutive the Desharnais-Gomez-Gionta line would be? Unfortunately, most of the Habs forwards stopped growing at any early age.
7th game versus Boston, this was our best line until Desharnais got injured. Who knows how far we would have gone had that not happened.

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You guys are such haters. Just wait and see before hating on JM and Desharnais. Paccioretty and Desharnais were the **** when then played together in Hamilton. I'd rather see them than Gomez on the 2nd.
Just in case you haven't noticed. Huge difference between steeltown and Montreal.
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I dont know if it was just me, but I thought palushaj looked good yesterday!
So did I but JM is an idiot and will put him on the 4th line when he's a top 6 player in Hamilton.

Now he has to change his role and play with less offensive players at a time when the coach should be helping him boost his confidence.

This is yet another example of why JM hasn't won a thing! He's not a players coach and that what we need with these young talented players.

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Have you given any thought to how diminutive the Desharnais-Gomez-Gionta line would be? Unfortunately, most of the Habs forwards stopped growing at any early age.
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7th game versus Boston, this was our best line until Desharnais got injured. Who knows how far we would have gone had that not happened.


Although it was game 5.

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Kostitsyn-Plekanec-Cole
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Pacioretty-Desharnais-Palushaj (worked in Hamilton)
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Please just drop him on a line with our best players & park him in front of the Net on the PP.
That has never really been Cole's game, he's never been a Holmstrom type. IMO parking in front of the net effectively on the PP is a very particular skill. Not every big guy has it.

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Kostitsyn-Plekanec-Cole
Desharnais-Gomez-Gionta
Pacioretty-Eller-Palushaj
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I would love to see:

Pacioretty - Eller - Kostitsyn (Get most minutes - would be beastly!)
Desharnais - Plekanec - Cole
Palushaj - Gomez - Gionta
Darche - Engqvist - Moen

When Cammy returns he takes Desharnais' spot. Desharnais would then fall to Palushaj's spot on the 3rd line.
I must say I like this very much on paper.

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That has never really been Cole's game, he's never been a Holmstrom type. IMO parking in front of the net effectively on the PP is a very particular skill. Not every big guy has it.
Yeah, not every big guy is going to excel at that role just because of their size. Our best screener, garbage goal type player is, like it or not, Darche.

In a year or two maybe Berger will be able to be Holstrom-esque.

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lol... I like that he's trying to give Gomer-Gio 3rd line opposition or something but what part about Moen-Gomer-Gio has he not learned. I honestly would have been happier with AK-Gomer-Gio even and that's saying a lot.

MOEN GOT A GOAL! HE'S NOW AN OFFENSIVE DYNAMO WHO WILL SEE THE NEXT 20 GAMES IN A TOP 6 ROLE! HOORAY FOR US!

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