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10-15-2011, 09:24 PM
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10-15-2011, 09:30 PM
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Good move.

Been asking for this.

Zuccarello isn't ready (may never be) for the NHL.

Can't have a guy who can't skate a regular shift while not doing anything while he's on the ice.

Newbury will at least forecheck hard and play physical.

Next to go is Christensen and Wolski.

We need to pull a deal for a guy like Franson to help the defense.

And recall one of Mitchell, Bourque, or Hagelin.

If we wantto win games we have to start cutting fat now and stop wasting valuable roster positions.

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10-15-2011, 09:33 PM
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Newbury has been tearing it up in Hartford, so it's not like this call-up is undeserved. He's a far better fit on the 4th line than MZA at this point.

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10-15-2011, 09:33 PM
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He's been invisible, and he is much better served logging minutes in CT than getting less than 8 with the big club.

Pre-season on Olympic sheets inflated perception of his advancement.
And you're basing this off three games, two of which the entire team sucked, and one in which he played 7 minutes with Rupp and Christensen?

Brilliant analysis.

Zuccarello hasn't been given a chance to show whether he's made significant strides or not.

It feels like this team does not practice any sort of cohesive gameplan in between games. Tortorella's firing won't come any time soon but it really can't come soon enough. I truly believe he's holding this team back. Staal and Sauer injuries considered. Tortorella just gets outcoached by every single coach in this league.

His only move is JUGGLING lines and yelling.

Im sure Henrik appreciated Tortorella screaming his head off for him to get to the bench with nearly two minutes left so that the islanders could score and empty net goal.

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10-15-2011, 09:34 PM
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Good, MZA has stunk.

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10-15-2011, 09:35 PM
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Good move.

Been asking for this.

Zuccarello isn't ready (may never be) for the NHL.

Can't have a guy who can't skate a regular shift while not doing anything while he's on the ice.

Newbury will at least forecheck hard and play physical.

Next to go is Christensen and Wolski.

We need to pull a deal for a guy like Franson to help the defense.

And recall one of Mitchell, Bourque, or Hagelin.

If we wantto win games we have to start cutting fat now and stop wasting valuable roster positions.
Agreed.

In the words of Michel Therrien..."this team is too soff". Especially the 4th line, when, in reality, your 4th line is supposed to be the "crash and bang" energy line that wears out the opponent's defense. The only player on the current 4th line who is capable of doing that is Mike Rupp, and he hasn't gotten the ice-time necessary to do so because Christensen/Zuccarello are liabilities when they play together, and are on the ice for only 5 minutes. Very, very ineffective. The Rangers need to trade for another Fedotenko/Prust/Boyle or two, or call up Ryan Bourque. This roster would look much better:

Stepan-Richards-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Anisimov-Callahan
Fedotenko-Boyle-Prust
Rupp-Newbury/Mitchell-Bourque

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10-15-2011, 09:41 PM
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We need a more prototypical 3rd and 4th line. No more "skill players" that cant play normal minutes and a two way game.

Stepan-Richards-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Anisimov-Callahan
Fedotenko-Boyle-Prust
Hagelin/Rupp-Newbury/Mitchell-Bourque

(edit: pretty much the same thing posted above. my bad)

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10-15-2011, 09:47 PM
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I guess that was the last NHL-action we'll see from him. Even though the team has been awful as a whole, this is just not good enough. Probably the whole season in Hartford, no new contract offer, and KHL next.

Fun while it lasted though, Mats

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10-15-2011, 09:56 PM
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What do you expect him to do playing 7 minutes a night with Rupp?

Zucc has been handled terrible.
Torts has been on my **** list since the playoffs. I'd rather have kept Avery than Torts.

I want Boyle Richards Gaborik please.

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Why not try to trade him and Wolski for just something? I don't think Zuccarello have a future with the Rangers and his contract expire after this season and I think we all can agree that Wolski definitely have no future with this club.

Stepan played well with Richards and Gaborik, so why don't keep them together? The "pack line" was pretty bad tonight but they will be fine so we should keep them together as well.

So basically we have no spot for Wolski (who also making a lot of money) and obviously not for Zuccarello either, I don't think neither of those two are suited for a bottom six role for us so the. Wouldn't we be able to get something for those two, a defender, a typical bottom six player or some picks?

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10-15-2011, 10:00 PM
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30 seconds?

He took that boarding penalty on the first shift and was demoted right after.
He played 10 minutes with Stepan and Wolski in the first game. And if he starts the game off by taking a boarding penalty, that's not exactly a good thing to do if he wants to get rewarded with more ice time..

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10-15-2011, 10:01 PM
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Zuc has been awful. I'm glad he got sent down. Wolski is returning to the lineup. And Newbury can center the 4th line. Back to the press box for Christensen.

Rupp has been garbage too. I dont get why we are paying guys 1.5 million dollars to play 5 minutes a night.

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10-15-2011, 10:04 PM
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I like it.

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10-15-2011, 10:08 PM
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Not an NHL player, yet (possibly ever).

Could be a late bloomer. Up to him to stick with it in North America long enough to see if he is in fact a late bloomer. Doubtful that he wasts his career over here in the AHL.

Last year on his contract... will probably be back in Europe.

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i saw leslie's tweets about how well Newbury was playing tonight and I thought he'd be called up

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10-15-2011, 10:14 PM
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Stepan-Richards-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Anisimov-Cally
Feds-Boyle-Prust
Rupp-Newbery-Hagelin
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10-15-2011, 10:15 PM
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I think when all is said and done, MZA will go the way of Prucha and Dawes. Good hands, good heart, but just too small and not skilled enough to overcome it ala Marty St. Louis.

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10-15-2011, 10:18 PM
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I feel bad for Zuccarello, because he's a good guy. And he works hard.

But he's not (yet? ever?) fit for the NHL, unfortunately.

He can be a superstar in Europe, and there's nothing to be ashamed of in that. Some great players in Europe.

Different game. Some guys are fit for the smaller rinks and physical game. Some are fit for the bigger rinks and skill game.

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10-15-2011, 10:19 PM
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hes pretty much sucked....i dont know how anyone can defend his play.

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10-15-2011, 10:30 PM
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No problem by me, he's been awful.

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10-15-2011, 10:31 PM
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Maybe Zucc could get more ice time if the team didn't spend half the game killing penalties...
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10-15-2011, 10:34 PM
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Eh he may not have showed much but what has Christensen showed?

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10-15-2011, 10:35 PM
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I'm fine with this. He needs to tune up his game and earn some more ice time to really get his game going. He really isn't getting much of a chance to put all his summer training into good use at the moment, which he'll need some time to do before it can be put to good use.

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Eh he may not have showed much but what has Christensen showed?
The ability to be a regular scratch without stunting his development (or lack thereof).

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10-15-2011, 10:41 PM
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Ok?

So we switch Zuccerellos 5 minutes to Newburys 5 minutes.

Awesome move Slats.
mza benefits more from playing top minutes in hartford than 5 minutes on 4th line in ny...let him go down there and play cause we might need him later in the year...

it also clears a decent amount of cap space...wolski should be headed to hartford for the same reason, if they aren't going to be in the top 9 then we badly need that cap space to get some help on the blueline

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