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10-16-2011, 01:30 PM
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Id fully expect him to put 65 points in detroit
The irony is that Detroit was after him and he chose NYR if I remember correctly

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10-16-2011, 01:35 PM
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The irony is that Detroit was after him and he chose NYR if I remember correctly
Thats because they were eating crows to get him...for what? They probably promised him a spot on 1 or 2 line.

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Clearly Sather has a different view of how the Rangers should play than Torts. Torts talks alot of skills and youth but he doesnt utilize skills. I`m sure there are several teams that would like to have Zucca on the roster.
It seems to me that Torts himself has a different view than himself on how the Rangers should play. Ive said it before, but for a coach that goes on and on about how he expects consistancy from his players, there is hardly any consistancy in the way he runs the team.
The more i see of him and his bad motivational skills, the less I believe that this team will ever be a contender with him as a coach.

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10-16-2011, 01:35 PM
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Rupp-Newbury-Weise would've been a nice 4th line.

Newbury adds a lot of what this team needs if the Boyle line is gonna be our 3rd line. Faceoffs, toughness, defensive play, and a little bit of playmaking ability. He is no scrub.

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10-16-2011, 01:36 PM
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zuccarello started the year on the 3rd line with stepan and wolski but the line was horrible and couldn't stay on the ice.

again, he simply doesn't have enough talent to play top 6 minutes in this league, and he doesn't have the size to play bottom 6 minutes. he won't make it.

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10-16-2011, 01:38 PM
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Probably just an extra guy in case Sauer isn't ready to go and another d-man goes down. Easier to bring him along to Western Canada then fly someone out from Connecticut.

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10-16-2011, 01:39 PM
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the only reason he played as many games as he did last year is because he was great in the shootout and the team last year depended on those shootout wins. the guy is nothing special at least on this team.

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10-16-2011, 01:39 PM
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Newbury is PITBULL he will check fight score and win 50% on draws right now he is needed and is actually scoring for the pack solid move

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zuccarello started the year on the 3rd line with stepan and wolski but the line was horrible and couldn't stay on the ice.

again, he simply doesn't have enough talent to play top 6 minutes in this league, and he doesn't have the size to play bottom 6 minutes. he won't make it.
Given that he has yet to be given a chance to play top 6 minutes with our top 6 players...i'm going to call ******** on this one.

Do you expect him to look like Joe Sakic playing with ****ing Mike Rupp?

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10-16-2011, 01:39 PM
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This is ridiculous. What happened to our depth on defense
I think we have to realize you take 2 of the top 4 Dmen on any team it will be thin

will be great when Staal, Girardi, McDonaugh, Sauer are back in the fold together.

Then just chose 2 of DZ, Erixon, Eminger, Woywitka

They have been open about looking for a Dman and now Zuke being sent down makes him available to me

McCabe would be handy now . Cant believe I just said that

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10-16-2011, 01:42 PM
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Rupp-Newbury-Weise would've been a nice 4th line.

Newbury adds a lot of what this team needs if the Boyle line is gonna be our 3rd line. Faceoffs, toughness, defensive play, and a little bit of playmaking ability. He is no scrub.
That would be a tough line to play against. I wasn't a big Weise fan, but he would be a much better fit on the 4th line than the alternatives we currently have. I think the Rangers were a bit hasty in waiving him.

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10-16-2011, 01:43 PM
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zuccarello started the year on the 3rd line with stepan and wolski but the line was horrible and couldn't stay on the ice.

again, he simply doesn't have enough talent to play top 6 minutes in this league, and he doesn't have the size to play bottom 6 minutes. he won't make it.
We`ll see. I think if they dont trade him, he`ll come back after strong play in Connecticut and take a spot on the 2 line.

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Rupp-Newbury-Weise would've been a nice 4th line.

Newbury adds a lot of what this team needs if the Boyle line is gonna be our 3rd line. Faceoffs, toughness, defensive play, and a little bit of playmaking ability. He is no scrub.
In theory? Yes.

In practice? I'd be willing to bet they would've been our worst line.

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zuccarello started the year on the 3rd line with stepan and wolski but the line was horrible and couldn't stay on the ice.

again, he simply doesn't have enough talent to play top 6 minutes in this league, and he doesn't have the size to play bottom 6 minutes. he won't make it.
well it was proven he doesn't have enough size to play bottom six minutes but i don't see how it was proven that he doesn't have enough talent to play top six minutes.

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In theory? Yes.

In practice? I'd be willing to bet they would've been our worst line.
Well, the 4th line is always supposed to be the worst line, that's why they get the least minutes. But at least they fit into 4th line roles whereas players like Wolski, EC, and MZA don't fit there at all.

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10-16-2011, 01:48 PM
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Rupp-Newbury-Weise would've been a nice 4th line.
Wiese for MZA?

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10-16-2011, 01:50 PM
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Well, the 4th line is always supposed to be the worst line, that's why they get the least minutes. But at least they fit into 4th line roles whereas players like Wolski, EC, and MZA don't fit there at all.
Yeah, right a 4 line should consist of pitbulls not leftovers...

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10-16-2011, 01:56 PM
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For **** sake...

Trade for Cody Franson...NOW, please.
Have you ever watched the Predators? I have. Cody Franson is garbage.

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10-16-2011, 01:59 PM
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Wiese for MZA?
I'm fully behind MZA, but if he isnt gonna get top 6 minutes here it is better to be in Hartford.

I have a feeling we'll see him again.

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10-16-2011, 02:11 PM
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I'm fully behind MZA, but if he isnt gonna get top 6 minutes here it is better to be in Hartford.
I have a feeling we'll see him again.
Aboslutely agree. With the way Torts runs his lines, its top 6 or Whale.
I am not sure that the Rangers plays the right style of hockey for MZA though.
It seems that there is more dump and chace and grinding by the game. I am not sure if that is because Torts wants to play "ugly" hockey or if it is simply because we do not have the crew to play the way Vancouver (as an example) plays.

I am a little disapointed that MZA was never tried on that first line LW. Though most likely a little vounarable defensively, it would be absolutely wonderful seeing Richards and MZA passing and playing their way to the goal in the syle the Sedins does.

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10-16-2011, 02:23 PM
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i am a fan of mza, i think he did quite a bit in the offseason and looked promising in the preseason, in fact seemed to get better as the preseason went on, but once the regular season started he wasn't given much of a shot, i mean the first line he was on was the third with stepan and wolski? and wolski had the injured groin, so i wouldn't call that much of a line, if feds was on the line or prust i think that line could have worked...then he got put on a fourthline that was pointless, i mean you put ec zucc and rupp on aline together, that is not a good line...i agree that he needs top 6 minutes to be successful, and he has not gotten that, but if the lines are given close to equal time, if all lines are on the same page, then i think he could be successful on a good 3rd line, but with our 2 top lines set, feds-boyle-prust set the 4th is all that is left to mess around with and it needs to be worked on.

i think he will be back, and i hope he tears it up with a good chance when he gets back, because he has a ton of talent and i want to see him fit with the rangers and be successful!!

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10-16-2011, 02:41 PM
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in all of this what the heck do they do with Wolski. He is just like Zuke and needs top 6 minutes to produce.

at this pt the 4th line options are Wolski, Christensen, Rupp, Newbury

Honestly I would even consider moving Wolski, Zuccarello to Ottawa for Kuba and Konopka

Kuba stinks but he did well with Torts before and is a UFA.

4th line of Hagelin, Konopka, Rupp
Nah I don't want to see Kuba in this team, Konopka and Chris Neil would way better IMO.

Rupp-Konopka-Neil would be a very good 4th line.

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10-16-2011, 02:59 PM
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If Zuccarello is sent down, and Avery isn't up, especially with injuries with Wolski, Staal and Sauer, how can anyone defend Tortorella and say that Avery being in CT is a salary cap decision? It's clearly a personal Tortorella grudge. Absurd.

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10-16-2011, 03:10 PM
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If Zuccarello is sent down, and Avery isn't up, especially with injuries with Wolski, Staal and Sauer, how can anyone defend Tortorella and say that Avery being in CT is a salary cap decision? It's clearly a personal Tortorella grudge. Absurd.
Id actually care a little bit if either Zuccarello or Avery were any good

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10-16-2011, 03:12 PM
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If Zuccarello is sent down, and Avery isn't up, especially with injuries with Wolski, Staal and Sauer, how can anyone defend Tortorella and say that Avery being in CT is a salary cap decision? It's clearly a personal Tortorella grudge. Absurd.
at the start of the yr I would of said a roster spot is Zukes or Avery but I never expected both to be down.

Avery makes perfect sense on a 4th line with Rupp

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