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10-12-2011, 07:19 PM
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Two debates happening here. Only one has any validity.

Debate whether Phil should or shouldn't like the Bruins, or bad-mouth the team, or whether or not he has a leg to stand on in either case....

....but question what he meant to the Bruins teams he played on, and you just have no idea what you are talking about.

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10-12-2011, 07:37 PM
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Two debates happening here. Only one has any validity.

Debate whether Phil should or shouldn't like the Bruins, or bad-mouth the team, or whether or not he has a leg to stand on in either case....

....but question what he meant to the Bruins teams he played on, and you just have no idea what you are talking about.
My bad, i did jump to a conclusion... i shouldn't mix the player whit the ex player.

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I have no problem with that whatsoever. But it is possible to be loyal to one organization without trashing the other. Look no further than kids like Tony Rizzo and Casey Kelly, who have only good things to say about the Red Sox, even after being traded (and shocked about it). Interesting that such young men can show so much more maturity and grace than a man old enough to be their grandfather.
Well, to be fair, I've never observed age and maturity to have anything to do with each other.

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10-13-2011, 01:40 PM
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Esposito has a distaste for the Bruins because of management (Sinden) and how can anyone blame him. Espo was loyal to the organization and left an absolute fortune on the table and Sinden didn't even have the guts to tell him that he traded him to NY.

Espo has no use for the organization...only the fans, city and some of the players he likes.

Oh, and by the way; Harry Sinden held many more grudges in his 60's than Esposito does now. This thread should not go by without mentioning what trash Harry Sinden was compared to Phil Esposito.

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10-13-2011, 01:57 PM
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Well, to be fair, I've never observed age and maturity to have anything to do with each other.
That's certainly true in many cases. To quote Ann Landers, “Maturity is the ability to do a job whether or not you are supervised, to carry money without spending it, and to bear an injustice without wanting to get even.”

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I have no problem with that whatsoever. But it is possible to be loyal to one organization without trashing the other. Look no further than kids like Tony Rizzo and Casey Kelly, who have only good things to say about the Red Sox, even after being traded (and shocked about it). Interesting that such young men can show so much more maturity and grace than a man old enough to be their grandfather.
Excellent analogy. In fact just the other day i saw a bumper sticker that said "Jesus saves and Rizzo goes yard".

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I can sympathize with the younger fans that are left with a bad taste by some of Phil's words, but for those of us that lived through his playing years he will always be beloved.

It is tough for those who didn't watch him to imagine just what it was like to have a 5 time Art Ross winner, 6 time Richard Trophy winner (retro), 2 time Hart Trophy winner, 2 time LBP award winner skating for the Bruins....

....since we haven't had anyone win any one of those awards since.

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10-13-2011, 04:20 PM
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I can sympathize with the younger fans that are left with a bad taste by some of Phil's words, but for those of us that lived through his playing years he will always be beloved.

It is tough for those who didn't watch him to imagine just what it was like to have a 5 time Art Ross winner, 6 time Richard Trophy winner (retro), 2 time Hart Trophy winner, 2 time LBP award winner skating for the Bruins....

....since we haven't had anyone win any one of those awards since.
I'm in my 50s, and I've got a bad taste. Please don't presume to speak for everyone of a particular generation.

I'll always appreciate what he did, but I don't love the guy.

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10-13-2011, 07:43 PM
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Excellent analogy. In fact just the other day i saw a bumper sticker that said "Jesus saves and Rizzo goes yard".
I saw one that read:

Roses are red
Violets are blue
The Habs SUCK!!!!

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10-13-2011, 08:21 PM
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I can sympathize with the younger fans that are left with a bad taste by some of Phil's words, but for those of us that lived through his playing years he will always be beloved.

It is tough for those who didn't watch him to imagine just what it was like to have a 5 time Art Ross winner, 6 time Richard Trophy winner (retro), 2 time Hart Trophy winner, 2 time LBP award winner skating for the Bruins....

....since we haven't had anyone win any one of those awards since.
Phil will always get a pass from me. Only hear good things from people who identify themselves to him as Bostonians.

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10-17-2011, 12:55 PM
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FWIW, a caller on NHL radio today asked Espo why he wasn't at the ceremony - he said that it was because he wasn't invited. He also said that Cheevers and Cashman were not invited either.
Wonder what the deal is with Cashman and Cheevers?

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