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10-05-2011, 04:52 PM
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Seems like Ville Pokka will get called up to play for Kärpät in thursday's SM-liiga game against Tappara, due to massive amount of injuries within the lines of Kärpät. Can't help wondering whether he'll be the next prospect who breaks into regular roster during this season.

E: In the first D pair, as per sm-liiga.fi pre-game info.


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10-08-2011, 11:41 AM
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Esa Lindell, -94 born, 188/86 with 4 assists today for Jokerit Junior A when they beat Ässät in Pori 5-4 with the winner coming 4 seconds before the end of regulation. He has 3+10/+1/2 PIM in 9 games this season. Should he be given a look at the next U-20 tournament?

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10-08-2011, 12:42 PM
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Esa Lindell, -94 born, 188/86 with 4 assists today for Jokerit Junior A when they beat Ässät in Pori 5-4 with the winner coming 4 seconds before the end of regulation. He has 3+10/+1/2 PIM in 9 games this season. Should he be given a look at the next U-20 tournament?
I think he looked solid at Ivan Hlinka. I would take him into camp roster atleast.

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10-08-2011, 03:25 PM
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Lindell is definitely getting a lot of responsibility from Valtonen and I think Kekäläinen sees something special in this kid as well. In such a young and talented team, you have to be pretty good to take the #1 d-man's place as a under-aged rookie. I mean, there were two older kids with Mestis experience in that D but he logged bigger minutes then either of them.

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Should he be given a look at the next U-20 tournament?
I don’t think so, there are plenty of candidates with better defensive reliability and physical maturity. I’m going to say that it’s not going to happen, because for me it would be a huge, huge surprise, if Helminen would even look at Lindell's direction.

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10-10-2011, 05:14 PM
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Aleksi Saarela 5'10 really? He was like 170cm or even less last year. He will probably end +6'0 has good weight aswell. About 170lbs. He should play at jr. B he's destroying jr c.

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Aleksi Saarela 5'10 really? He was like 170cm or even less last year. He will probably end +6'0 has good weight aswell. About 170lbs. He should play at jr. B he's destroying jr c.
Junior C is still in the qualifying stages, scores tend to get lopsided then, no need to draw too much conclusions yet. Guys like Rajala and Pulkkinen were equally high scoring at this stage.

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10-11-2011, 11:32 AM
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Junior C is still in the qualifying stages, scores tend to get lopsided then, no need to draw too much conclusions yet. Guys like Rajala and Pulkkinen were equally high scoring at this stage.
Yeah, thats truth. How is his two-way game? skating? hockey IQ? seems to be very interesting prospect.

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10-14-2011, 08:57 AM
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94-born defenseman Mikko Vainonen is making his SM-liiga debut with HIFK tonight against Kalpa. http://www.sm-liiga.fi/ottelut/ennak...tti/37060.html

If somebody who is going to see the game could care to report on how he did? Hope he does well, 94 defensmen looking really awesome right now

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94-born defenseman Mikko Vainonen is making his SM-liiga debut with HIFK tonight against Kalpa. http://www.sm-liiga.fi/ottelut/ennak...tti/37060.html

If somebody who is going to see the game could care to report on how he did? Hope he does well, 94 defensmen looking really awesome right now
Jim will show the game replay as "Kuukauden peli" or whatever it's called.

4 sport pro will show it live and it's free this month in Welho... was it antenniverkko or kaapeliverkko? Can't recall that.

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By the way, what do you guys think of the recent uprising of youngsters in the Sm-liiga? Are the new players flat-out more talented and mature than before? Or has the league weakened? Although I think that the emphasizing of invidual skill in youth hockey is starting to produce results, I wonder if the clubs are trying to repeat the success story of HIFK&Granlund. It seems like many GMs of Finnish clubs have figured out how powerful marketing tools young and talented homegrown players are.

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94-born defenseman Mikko Vainonen is making his SM-liiga debut with HIFK tonight against Kalpa. http://www.sm-liiga.fi/ottelut/ennak...tti/37060.html

If somebody who is going to see the game could care to report on how he did? Hope he does well, 94 defensmen looking really awesome right now
Saw the game and Vainonen hit the post and they checked it on the video if it was in nut it wasn't. Vainonen had a good first pass, played simple game. Good size stay-at-home d-man. I think he played very well and I think that he deserves to play in FEL.

EDIT: Our -94 defensemen core is definetely looking scary good.

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10-14-2011, 04:35 PM
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By the way, what do you guys think of the recent uprising of youngsters in the Sm-liiga? Are the new players flat-out more talented and mature than before? Or has the league weakened? Although I think that the emphasizing of invidual skill in youth hockey is starting to produce results, I wonder if the clubs are trying to repeat the success story of HIFK&Granlund. It seems like many GMs of Finnish clubs have figured out how powerful marketing tools young and talented homegrown players are.
How was Granlund Homegrown?

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10-15-2011, 05:56 AM
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I didn't mean that Granlund was homegrown, but the case made sure that teams will now hold with claws-and-teeth to their most talented young players. No team is willing to just bend over and give them away if they can possibly avoid it, so you have to raise your superpromises yourself. Unless it's something lopsided as Jokerit-Saipa or something.

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10-15-2011, 07:16 AM
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I definetly think that FEL is better than few years ago. Skill level is higher and bottom teams have catched top teams. There is much higher talent level at juniors than few years before and the competition is much harder. We are clearly few step behind Sweden because they have much better induvidual training.

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10-16-2011, 08:28 AM
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Barkov was phenomenal on thursday against Kärpät. He got an assist again, was selected second star of the game, and at times looked like young Jari Kurri on ice.

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-94's and 95's in Jr.A so far

1. F - Teuvo Teräväinen -94 (Jokerit) 9gp 9g+7a=16p
2. F - Juuso Ikonen -95 (Blues) 8gp 6g+9a=15p
3. D - Esa Lindell -94 (Jokerit) 12gp 3g+12a=15p
4. F - Henri Ikonen -94 (KalPa) 8gp 7g+5a=12p
5. F - Joni Nikko -94 (Lukko) -13gp 4g+8a=12p
6. F - Artturi Lehkonen -95 (TPS) 12gp 7g+4a=11p
7. F - Topi Nättinen -94 (JYP) -8gp 5g+6a=11p
8. F - Henrik Haapala -94 (Tappara) 10gp 4g+7a=11p
9. F - Saku Salminen -94 (Jokerit) 12gp 3g+7a=10p
10. D - Matias Pulli -95 (TPS) 10gp 6g+3a=9p
11. F - Rasmus Kulmala -94 (TPS) 12gp 2g+7a=9p
12. F - Kasperi Nuto -95 (Ässät) 11gp 5g+3a=8p
13. F - Jonatan Tanus -95 (Tappara) 8gp 4g+4a=8p
14. F - Joonas Huovinen -94 (Sport) 12gp 2g+6a=8p
15. F - Niko Ojamäki -95 (Ässät) 10gp 4g+3a=7p
16. D - Mikko Vainonen -94 (HIFK) 10gp 3g+3a=6p
17. F - Samu Markkula -94 (JYP) 9gp 2g+4a=6p
18. D - Mikko Lehtonen -94 (TPS) 10gp 1g+5a=6p
19. F - Aleksander Barkov -95 (Tappara) 5gp 2g+3a=5p
20. F - Eustahio Soumelidis (CZE) -94 (Sport) 12gp 2g+3a=5p
21. F - Nico Friman -94 (HIFK) 9gp 1g+4a=5p
22. D - Niklas Tikkinen -94 (Blues) 6gp 3g+1a=4p
23. F - Ismo Nikkinen -94 (HPK) 1gp 3g+0a=3p
24. D - Ville Pokka -94 (Kärpät) 3gp 2g+1a=3p
25. F - Toni Suuronen -95 (Lukko) 4gp 1g+2a=3p
26. F - Aleksi Mustonen -95 (Jokerit) 10gp 1g+2a=3p

Goalies with at least 2 games:
1. GK - Janne Juvonen -94 (Pelicans) 2gp 1.50gaa 94.74s%
2. GK - Henri Kiviaho -94 (KalPa) 2gp 1.01gaa 94.87s%
3. GK - Atte Tolvanen -94 (Ässät) 3gp 1.62gaa 93.98s%
4. GK - Ville Husso -95 (HIFK) 4gp 2.44gaa 92.06s%
5. GK - Jerry Kaukinen -94 (Ilves) 4gp 2.52gaa 91.45s%
6. GK - Joonas Korpisalo -94 (Jokerit) 11gp 2.18gaa 90.55s%
7. GK - Jean Auren -94 (Sport) 4gp 3.24gaa 89.26s%
8. GK - Julius Koskinen -94 (Ilves) 6gp 3.52gaa 87.43s%

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Teuvo Teräväinen making his Sm-liiga debut right now against JYP. He has started the season with Jokerit U-20 with 9+7 and a +13 in 9 games but had one game with Kiekko-Vantaa as well.

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Question: Can players who haven't yet been in Pohjola Camp be chosen to play for national team? I mean if you are underager can you play in U16 national team?

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Teuvo Teräväinen looks much bigger and stronger that i thought. Good skating aswell. Nice work ethic. I'm very suprised how good he is. He could be darkhorse 1st round pick and maybe even highest pick from finland this year.

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Teuvo Teräväinen looks much bigger and stronger that i thought. Good skating aswell. Nice work ethic. I'm very suprised how good he is. He could be darkhorse 1st round pick and maybe even highest pick from finland this year.
I didn't see the game today but I agree that he is surprisingly strong for his size, and to me his playing looks like he is 10-15 pounds heavier than he actually is. You would think that it would be easy to knock him off the puck because he's so light but thats not really the case. In addition to his speed he has pretty good balance, and again quite impressive for a light kid like him. This said, I've yet to see him play against men so my judgement may be skewed.

Was he able to create scoring chances? And did he get pushed around? I hope he can stay up longer with the mens team so I can catch some of his games.

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Teuvo Teräväinen looks much bigger and stronger that i thought. Good skating aswell. Nice work ethic. I'm very suprised how good he is. He could be darkhorse 1st round pick and maybe even highest pick from finland this year.
At the moment, Craig Button agrees: http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=49649

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I hope he can stay up longer with the mens team so I can catch some of his games.
I'd be surprised if Teräväinen didn't play on Thursday against HIFK. At least Hardt, Lahti & Hahl are currently injured. UrhoTV will broadcast the game.

E: Miro Aaltonen will play at least nine more games in Mestis. Like I said, I'd rather see him playing top6 minutes in Mestis than grinding 5min/game at Blues. http://www.mehtimakelainen.net/index...ikoinen-mukaan


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Esa Lindell scored 1+2 today against TPS. He has scored 4+14=18 and has 2 penalty minutes in 13 games with A-juniors. He has good size (188cm/86kg) and it's pretty obvious that he should be playing against men. Could someone describe him as a player and tell something about his strengths & weaknesses? And in which round he could be drafted?


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Question: Can players who haven't yet been in Pohjola Camp be chosen to play for national team? I mean if you are underager can you play in U16 national team?
Toni Rajala, Teemu Pulkkinen, Jesper Kokkonen, Aleksander Barkov, Jonatan Tanus and Jaakko Hälli have played as underagers with U16 national team in spring tournements that were held after Pohjola camp. Don't know if anyone has played in U16 national team before Pohjola camp, but I doubt there's an actual rule against it, probably more like a tradition. Aleksi Saarela could probably play with the U16 national team already, but I guess it won’t happen before the Pohjola camp.

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Esa Lindell scored 1+2 today against TPS. He has scored 4+14=18 and has 2 penalty minutes in 13 games with A-juniors. He has good size (188cm/86kg) and it's pretty obvious that he should be playing against men. Could someone describe him as a player and tell something about his strengths & weaknesses? And in which round he could be drafted?
I have only seen one Jr.A game from Jokerit so far this season, but based on that game he still has plenty of work to do at that level as well, especially defensively. Like with many top Finnish 94-born defensemen, his skating needs work; lateral / backwards movement, footwork and overall coordination for example. Looked really tired at the end of some long shifts and had some trouble getting off the ice, I imagine that he’s still adapting to the level of play and the ice time he’s receiving. Unable to keep up with his man on several occasions, he was in trouble with speedy and shifty opponents. He was also levelled by a smaller opponent in front of his own net, that lead to a dangerous situation. In some situations his awareness / reading of the play wasn’t the best possible, which lead to some bad decisions, especially defensively (bad positioning).

On the other hand there were some good plays as well, like taking initiative; jumping on an open lane and rushing the puck through the zones, using his reach to his advantage in a defensive situation, giving some good passes (one of them lead to a goal on power play), intercepting a wide around puck close to the boards while pressured and delivering it quickly to the net after taking a few lateral steps from the point. He also scored a goal on power play with a simple low wrister, it took quite some time for him to get the puck under control and he had to take a look at his feet. For some reason the defending player didn’t close the gap, so Lindell had plenty of time/room to get the shot off, eventually the goalie slipped it in easily.

His stats might be slightly inflated by the fact that he’s playing in one of the highest scoring teams in the league, and his defensive shortcomings might become more visible in a weaker team with not so good supporting players. He has the most minuses in his team (-12), which isn’t bad considering that he gets so much ice time, but it’s not great either when compared to Terävinen’s (-1) in 9 games with almost similar ice time.

I’m hoping to see Jokerit again next month, so hopefully I’ll have a better picture of his game and possible draft chances then. At the moment I'd say that he's a possible late round pick, but I retain the right to change my mind later on, once I see him playing more. Central Scouting’s preliminary rankings should be out in November as well, it'll be interesting to see how they rank him in comparison to other Finns. It seemed that the U18 national team coaches relied more on Pokka, Vainonen, Ristolainen and Lehtonen at the Hlinka Memorial Tournament, so I imagine that they didn’t see Lindell as the most reliable option. It remains to be seen if he manages to rise in that pecking order as the season advances.

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