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10-19-2011, 09:40 PM
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Quick vs. Bernier

Can we finally put the quick vs. bernier debate to rest. Quick is one of the best goalies in the league. I don't see how Bernier can be anything but a back up from here on in.

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10-19-2011, 09:43 PM
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It was put to rest last year, but stay for a drink anyway.

The Kings have the luxury of having both on the team. It's Quick AND Bernier, not Quick vs. Bernier.

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10-19-2011, 09:47 PM
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Barring something unforeseen, I expect Bernier will be with another organization this time next year, probably in the east.

And Quick will have a new long-term deal.

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10-19-2011, 09:54 PM
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It's Quick AND Bernier, not Quick vs. Bernier.

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10-19-2011, 09:59 PM
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The Kings have the luxury of having both on the team. It's Quick AND Bernier, not Quick vs. Bernier.
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oh wait ... we didn't hear from JT yet why statistically Bernier is the best goalie ever since sliced bread, but after that ... yeah then we can /thread

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10-19-2011, 09:59 PM
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It was put to rest last year, but stay for a drink anyway.

The Kings have the luxury of having both on the team. It's Quick AND Bernier, not Quick vs. Bernier.
PERFECT.

I don't understand why people aren't happy having two capable goalies.

Also, to the OP, just because Quick is playing awesome right now doesn't mean that JB will only be a back up. JB played like a #1 goalie the second half of last year.

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10-19-2011, 10:03 PM
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JB played like a #1 goalie the second half of last year.
Yep ... right up until the Shoot Outs sorry I had to do it

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10-19-2011, 10:07 PM
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This is exactly the opposite of putting the debate to rest.

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10-19-2011, 10:22 PM
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It was put to rest last year, but stay for a drink anyway.

The Kings have the luxury of having both on the team. It's Quick AND Bernier, not Quick vs. Bernier.
That is pretty naive. There is always competition between goalies. At some point an organization needs to decide who it's number one goalie is. That is the goalie who gets the big contract. If the other goalie wants to be a number one goalie they need to steal the other guys job or get traded. Every back up goalie wants to be the number one goalie. So you are wrong if you think there is no competition between quick and bernier.

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There's competition between them, but no debate between fans.

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Neither will be dealt until next seasons trade deadline. Lombardi is probably going to let it work itself out until then. That's when he'll make his decision. Not a bad problem to have. I'm sure there is fans of 15+ NHL franchises that wish they had the problem (is it really a problem?) the Kings now have.
So there will be a debate until than by somebody on these boards.

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10-19-2011, 11:35 PM
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Quick imo is the most underrated goalie in the NHL, Would love to have him in van city

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Seriously? No it can't be laid to rest after a handful of games. Why do people think figuring out which goalie is better is somehow a bad thing? They're both very talented. The Quick versus Bernier debate isn't going away anytime soon. I imagine it'll continue even after one is traded.

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10-19-2011, 11:56 PM
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Can we finally put the quick vs. bernier debate to rest. Quick is one of the best goalies in the league. I don't see how Bernier can be anything but a back up from here on in.
Define from here on in. If you mean the next month or so, sure. After that, if Bernie plays lights out and Quick starts playing like he has in February and March, then it could switch.

TM will go with the hot hand.

But as another poster said, it's Bernier and Quick, not Bernier vs. Quick. I don't see anyone in the organization debating this, just a few fans. We have two great goaltenders, likely both are NHl starter capable right now. No problem, no one is complaining, other than the odd HF poster.

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10-20-2011, 12:19 AM
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It's only 5 games in people. If he lets in 7 goals against detroit again people will be begging for Bernier to start.

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10-20-2011, 01:13 AM
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another thread about this....?

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The one hill Quick has yet to climb is to showcase his ability to carry his team through the playoffs. During the regular season, he is fairly consistent. Sure he lets in a questionable goal here and there, but every goalie in the NHL does.

Bernier has ways to go to prove that he is the better option in net. He got off to a slow start last season and didn't standout positively in his one game against Buffalo, although his teammates didn't help him out much either.

If it came down to making a decision tomorrow on who you keep, it has to be Quick. He is more of a proven commodity. We don't know if Bernier is going to be the next Roberto Luongo or the next Jamie Storr. If the Kings could strengthen their offense and upgrade the team with Bernier going the other way, then it's a no-brainer.

Another thing to consider is if there is any goalie who is a better option as a backup to Quick. I'd say no. So hang onto both and see how this season plays out. If Quick suffers another playoff meltdown, then the Kings may have to give Bernier a good long look before they come to a decision on who to move.

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10-20-2011, 04:00 AM
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Let's just call up Gibson and put an end to the whole thing. We can probably get LaBarbara back from Phoenix to back him up. Maybe Ersberg is available?

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10-20-2011, 09:33 AM
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Let's just call up Gibson and put an end to the whole thing. We can probably get LaBarbara back from Phoenix to back him up. Maybe Ersberg is available?
I think Huet is going cheap right now.

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I would be perfectly fine going with the hot goalie for the remainder of their careers. Not going to happen of course, but I would hate to lose either one.

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Let's just call up Gibson and put an end to the whole thing. We can probably get LaBarbara back from Phoenix to back him up. Maybe Ersberg is available?
- maybe Mr. Beachball is available

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Barring something unforeseen, I expect Bernier will be with another organization this time next year, probably in the east.

And Quick will have a new long-term deal.
Bernier certainly deserves to be playing somewhere as a starter come next year.

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oh wait ... we didn't hear from JT yet why statistically Bernier is the best goalie ever since sliced bread, but after that ... yeah then we can /thread
Sliced bread has never been the same since Jimmy Howard was drafted!


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I keep waiting for Quick to stink and Bernier to take the reigns but it never seems to happen.

The only reason I would see Bernier lasting is that Quick is going to be an UFA and Bernier an RFA....With Kopitar, Doughty and Richards all taking up about 20 million, Kings will have to be careful about how much to shell out to Quick while also keeping 20 other players and being under the cap.

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