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10-18-2011, 07:35 PM
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Let the Cooke/Sarich hit die. Sarich was much taller, Cooke was looking slightly downward, and Sarich didn't jut out his elbow until after contact as means of following through. Now of course after that he bludgeoned someone's face with this stick.....

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10-18-2011, 07:59 PM
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Shanny is at least better than Campbell.

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10-18-2011, 08:25 PM
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Letang Suspended: Why Shanahan Got it Wrong
http://nhlhotstove.com/letang-suspen...-got-it-wrong/
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10-18-2011, 08:25 PM
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Let the Cooke/Sarich hit die. Sarich was much taller, Cooke was looking slightly downward, and Sarich didn't jut out his elbow until after contact as means of following through. Now of course after that he bludgeoned someone's face with this stick.....
And I think that's what everyone is upset about.

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10-19-2011, 10:06 AM
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Someone posted a gif on the mainboard. I'll just post it here so others can reference it.

The ************* of the NHL continues…

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10-19-2011, 10:42 AM
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I wonder if Shanahahahahan would have suspended Hedman last year for his hit on Crosby? Probably not. It was a very similar hit that was even worse because it put a player out of action for ~ a year.

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10-19-2011, 12:29 PM
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I put myself in Letang's shoes, and if I were him, I wouldn't have let up either.

Watching the hit from that angle though...it looks like he maybe, possibly, potentially could have let up just a little bit. Burmistrov was turned before Letang engaged, and then Letang thrusted him into the boards.

Should also be noted...these people who post **** in slow motion are idiots. That play occured in nanoseconds. Of course if you slow it down it's going to look way worse than it was.

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10-19-2011, 12:38 PM
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I wonder if Shanahahahahan would have suspended Hedman last year for his hit on Crosby? Probably not. It was a very similar hit that was even worse because it put a player out of action for ~ a year.
You can't go back and change what happened last year. All you can do is move forward from today and do the best you can to protect players from here on out. As my father always use to say "today is the first day of the rest of your life, make the best of it, what happened yesturday is over".

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10-19-2011, 12:43 PM
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My one pet peeve is comments about "*************." Paralyzing people is badass? Keeping the players you enjoy to watch safe is pussifying the league? Get out of here with that garbage, or go watch UFC or something.

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10-19-2011, 12:52 PM
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I put myself in Letang's shoes, and if I were him, I wouldn't have let up either.

Watching the hit from that angle though...it looks like he maybe, possibly, potentially could have let up just a little bit. Burmistrov was turned before Letang engaged, and then Letang thrusted him into the boards.

Should also be noted...these people who post **** in slow motion are idiots. That play occured in nanoseconds. Of course if you slow it down it's going to look way worse than it was.
I agree. Maybe extending his arms was a bit too much but people don't seem to realize is that it takes muscle and energy to stop guys from scooting up the boards and making you look stupid once you commit to that hit its hard to stop it when the other person does something unexpected. Pretty soon every offenses scheme will be to skate facing the boards. Everyone seems to be turning their backs to avoid being hit right now and I think it will only get worse, luckily Crosby will be able to take advantage of this too. Only problem is other teams will view the fine and suspension worth it to get him off the ice

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10-19-2011, 12:53 PM
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My one pet peeve is comments about "*************." Paralyzing people is badass? Keeping the players you enjoy to watch safe is pussifying the league? Get out of here with that garbage, or go watch UFC or something.
It's like the NFL. There was a time when you would never have seen a QB lead a receiver and throw a high pass over the middle. If a QB gets his receiver killed today, doing something stupid like that, they blame the defender. Players used to know not to put themselves into bad positions. Now they don't. Now in sports we have this weird notion that offensive players should have some sort of right of way to go wherever they want unmolested. As a result, offensive players endanger themselves and these sorts of injuries result.

Twenty or thirty years ago, you never saw guys turn their backs on a hit. This whole idea that we should make rules that prevent guys who turn their back on a hit from suffering the due consequences of their stupidity has incentivized stupidity. The rules and the offensive decision-making have become more dangerous, not the defensive players.

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10-19-2011, 12:56 PM
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Thing I'm mad about is the fact that 24 hours after Letang's hit, there were 2 boarding hits in 2 different games (Seidenberg on Skinner and Pyatt on Hjalmarsson) that were pretty much the same as Letang's hit. Those 2 don't even have a hearing, it's complete ********.

I'm all for sending a message, but be consistant with the ruling, with everyone out of Pittsburgh's lineup, he will suspend our best player for 2 games but won't touch anyone else for the same thing.

Don't be a "Colin Campbell" Shanahan

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10-19-2011, 03:43 PM
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I would consider myself one of the most "for contact" and sometimes people get injured in sports types. That said, i am ok with this suspension. I think it is on the bottom side of suspendable for sure, but it counts.

The one thing i will say though, is I 100% agree the NHL and (great reference about the NFL a few posts above) and other sports protecting people from bad mistakes.

Now guys can cut to the middle with heads down looking to release a dangling wrister and most of the responsibility is on the defensive player.....um, as a hockey player it is your responsibility to not be in a vulnerable position to be drilled.

We have ourselves and the media to blame because the majority act outraged when someone gets clocked.

Players turning backs to hits is getting very bad and dangerous. The league should consider how to take action against that. The biggest failure to protect is to perpetuate the favor shown to putting yourself in an unsafe position as a player. The game moves too fast for the behavior being tolerated and considered acceptable. You get hit in hockey, often hard, its part of the game and knowing how to use the boards and absorb hits is as much a skill to be learned as saucer passing.

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10-19-2011, 04:23 PM
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I´m okay with it. Letang saw his numbers and drilled him into the boards. It was a dangerous hit.

But I don`t like the explanation from Shanahan. Burmistrov did make a sudden move prior to the hit in my opinion and what`s the fine he`s talking about?

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10-19-2011, 06:03 PM
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It creates a very gray area when you start suspending people for that. The number of times throughout this season that it will happen exactly the same way and some will be suspended and some won't is going to just confuse the hell out of everyone.

The number of threads dedicated to someone getting slammed against the boards is going to number in the thousands by the end of this season.

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10-19-2011, 10:51 PM
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Anyone who doesn't think that was a dangerous/suspendible hit is just being a homer.

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10-19-2011, 11:01 PM
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Anyone who doesn't think that was a dangerous/suspendible hit is just being a homer.
Didn't I see the guy who got hit came out and admitted he turned into it?

Suspension was a bit much. As a hockey player, you learn VERY early to not turn away from hits like that. Letang definitely went in aggressively, but I don't think it should have been a suspension.

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10-19-2011, 11:29 PM
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I didn't think he deserved a suspension, but you had to know he was getting at least one game in this suspension happy NHL.

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10-20-2011, 07:07 AM
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Pretty similar to Jones on Bergeron (though without the brutal injury), which got 2 games a few years ago. Like some have said, it's the follow through push that caused trouble

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10-20-2011, 07:30 AM
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I think the outrage over the suspension is more to do with everyone's frustration about the other guys we already have out than anything else. 2 games is nothing. It's what they hand out when it falls into this gray area but they just want to keep a lock on things. Not a big deal at all. If we had a full roster I don't think many people would care.

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10-20-2011, 08:16 AM
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Stupid question, but does Letang get paid for games he is suspended for since he is under contract, or do 2 game checks worth of money go to some fund for....something?

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10-20-2011, 08:22 AM
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Stupid question, but does Letang get paid for games he is suspended for since he is under contract, or do 2 game checks worth of money go to some fund for....something?
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Under the terms of the Collective Bargaining Agreement, and based on his average annual salary, Letang will forfeit $37,837.84. The money goes to the Players' Emergency Assistance Fund.
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Thanks guys!

So, does this help us have more cap space toward the end of the season? I know it'd be miniscule, or is it set up so a team won't get a benefit from an individual being suspended?

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Thanks guys!

So, does this help us have more cap space toward the end of the season? I know it'd be miniscule, or is it set up so a team won't get a benefit from an individual being suspended?
There's no cap savings from suspensions.

http://www.capgeek.com/faq/how-do-su...ct-the-cap.php

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