I think the Avs will nosedive like they did last year and end up in the race. Hopefully, because Ovechkin - Backstrom - Yakupov would be amazing to see.
Yeah, I kind of doubt they have ANOTHER season where they break a franchise record for man games lost. Seriously, does anybody remember how many guys they lost to injuries last year.
Bust proof, as in Nail Yakupov. EVEN if CBJ take him as he would quicly develop into their best player with in a year or 2 even with Nash there.
But they don't deserve such a prospect. They are already in their way to ruining Ryan Johansson who they are keeping on their NHL team and playing 9 mins a night.
It would be awesome to see Yakupov play in a crazy hockey market like Winnipeg but i think that they are too talented to finish at the bottom.
Columbus will win enough games to finish safely away from the bottom.
Ottawa looks to be team with the inside track, they are way too young in too many spots and their vets are past their primes outside of Spezza so they are the favorite IMO.
I'm just glad that the Oilers seem to have improved enough to not be in this conversation but who knows with them.
Ottawa is a far cry from being as horrible as teams like Edmonton, Winnipeg and Phoenix. Columbus and Calgary have also looked really bad. Really don't know where this sudden confidence has come from in Edmonton considering they haven't changed their roster pretty much at all.
Ottawa won't be a bottom 5 team this year.
First of all, The Oilers have played a lot better than Ottawa thus far so i don't know where you get this from.
Also, do you really think that Ottawa will be better than 5 teams this year?
The Sens have a good future but the present looks pretty gloomy, you seem a bit delusional about this.
I think that the Oilers are improved this year but i'm still not delusional enough to think that they will automatically finish out of the lottery.
First of all, The Oilers have played a lot better than Ottawa thus far so i don't know where you get this from.
Also, do you really think that Ottawa will be better than 5 teams this year?
The Sens have a good future but the present looks pretty gloomy, you seem a bit delusional about this.
I think that the Oilers are improved this year but i'm still not delusional enough to think that they will automatically finish out of the lottery.
Ottawa didn't belong in the lottery last year. They just ran into a really bad storm of events.
In what way has Edmonton played a lot better than Ottawa thus far?
Yes, I'm quite certain that Ottawa will be better than 5 or more teams this year.
First off, Ottawa are terrible. Worse than Edmonton, and with less of a future.
Second, too all the people who claim to know where he's going; it's a lottery, you can't know. Even though the team that finishes last has the best odds, you still can't know.
Ottawa didn't belong in the lottery last year. They just ran into a really bad storm of events.
In what way has Edmonton played a lot better than Ottawa thus far?
Yes, I'm quite certain that Ottawa will be better than 5 or more teams this year.
Really?
Ottawa is 2-5 with 20GF 31GA
Edmonton is 2-2-2 with 11GF 12GA
Also, are you really complaining to an Oiler fan about a bad storm of events to your team?
If anything, Oiler fans have more excuses about bad stormy events than any other team over the last 2 years so you get no sympathy from me about that.
Yeah, I kind of doubt they have ANOTHER season where they break a franchise record for man games lost. Seriously, does anybody remember how many guys they lost to injuries last year.
So long as Varlamov is healthy and playing as we know he can, there is no way the Avs will fall behind Ottawa, Jets.
First off, Ottawa are terrible. Worse than Edmonton, and with less of a future.
Second, too all the people who claim to know where he's going; it's a lottery, you can't know. Even though the team that finishes last has the best odds, you still can't know.
If you say so. Let me know when Edmonton has any light on the back end or in goal. Ottawa has a deep prospect pool everywhere on the ice. Ottawa is a much better team than Edmonton and has a better future.
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Really?
Ottawa is 2-5 with 20GF 31GA
Edmonton is 2-2-2 with 11GF 12GA
Also, are you really complaining to an Oiler fan about a bad storm of events to your team?
If anything, Oiler fans have more excuses about bad stormy events than any other team over the last 2 years so you get no sympathy from me about that.
So what are you proving with this? That you actually have no basis for saying that Ottawa has played worse than Edmonton? Edmonton has the same number of wins. One less loss. With that in mind...
Combined record of teams that Edmonton has lost to:
8 - 8 - 3
Combined record of teams that Ottawa has lost to:
24 - 3 - 2
Not only that but Ottawa should have beaten Washington and could have easily won the games against Detroit and Toronto with a bit of puck luck and without some really bad calls.
If you say so. Let me know when Edmonton has any light on the back end or in goal. Ottawa has a deep prospect pool everywhere on the ice. Ottawa is a much better team than Edmonton and has a better future.
Disagree. Edmonton has some gems like future NHL star Jeff Petry.
So what are you proving with this? That you actually have no basis for saying that Ottawa has played worse than Edmonton? Edmonton has the same number of wins. One less loss. With that in mind...
Combined record of teams that Edmonton has lost to:
8 - 8 - 3
Combined record of teams that Ottawa has lost to:
24 - 3 - 2
Not only that but Ottawa should have beaten Washington and could have easily won the games against Detroit and Toronto with a bit of puck luck and without some really bad calls.
I don't even know what you're arguing and you're just coming off as a straight up homer with no objectivity at all.
Edmonton has 2 more points in 1 less game played and....
Ottawa has a goal differential of -11
Edmonton has a goal differential of -1
Again, you're talking about lack of puck luck and about the fact that Ottawa could have easily won the games but i can easily make dumb excuses for Oilers losses also but i'm not because they lost and that's all that counts in the win-loss column but if you insist....
The Oilers had 1-0 leads going into late in the 3rd period of their last 2 games but they lost both one in regulation and one in a shootout. Woulda shoulda coulda, doesn't matter, they still lost.
Put down your homer glasses and just accept that Ottawa has been underwhelming thus far this season. I'm sure that even your fellow Sens fans (the rational ones at least) would admit that.
I think anyone picking the Coyotes is seriously underrating them as a team. Sure they are not the most skilled, but they are a very well coached veteran team. If they don't make the playoffs, they will fall just short and end up picking in the 10 - 14 range.
I think it will ultimately end up being Columbus who gets the 1st pick followed by Winnipeg, Ottawa, Edmonton, Florida and Calgary.
I'd give almost anything for it to be the Jets though as I don't see them as a playoff team anyways.
I don't even know what you're arguing and you're just coming off as a straight up homer with no objectivity at all.
Edmonton has 2 more points in 1 less game played and....
Ottawa has a goal differential of -11
Edmonton has a goal differential of -1
Again, you're talking about lack of puck luck and about the fact that Ottawa could have easily won the games but i can easily make dumb excuses for Oilers losses also but i'm not because they lost and that's all that counts in the win-loss column but if you insist....
The Oilers had 1-0 leads going into late in the 3rd period of their last 2 games but they lost both one in regulation and one in a shootout. Woulda shoulda coulda, doesn't matter, they still lost.
Put down your homer glasses and just accept that Ottawa has been underwhelming thus far this season. I'm sure that even your fellow Sens fans (the rational ones at least) would admit that.
The only reason I said that Ottawa could have won those games is because you said that Edmonton could easily be 4 - 1 - 1.
This is pointless. You'll see at the end of the year when Edmonton is a lottery team for the umpteenth time and Ottawa is 15+ points clear of them.
The only reason I said that Ottawa could have won those games is because you said that Edmonton could easily be 4 - 1 - 1.
This is pointless. You'll see at the end of the year when Edmonton is a lottery team for the umpteenth time and Ottawa is 15+ points clear of them.
Are you drunk or high or both? Where did i say that the Oilers should be 4-1-1?
You were the one making excuses for Ottawa's futility, i was merely stating how dumb it is to make excuses for losses.
Are you drunk or high or both? Where did i say that the Oilers should be 4-1-1?
You were the one making excuses for Ottawa's futility, i was merely stating how dumb it is to make excuses for losses.
Yep, it was "Copper" that said that. My bad. My point still stands. Ottawa has only been out of two games it has played this year and has had very good showings against top teams. They're still adjusting to a new coach and brand new system with new players etc. It's impossible to say where they'll really end, but they've shown a lot of stuff that indicates they'll not be in the lottery bid for Yakupov.
We'll see as the year goes on but good money is on Ottawa not being close to last in the league.
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why on earth wouldn't you want to be?
The team you have now isn't going to win a playoff series, you may as well try to get Yakupov.
I don't believe in cheering for my team to lose under any circumstances. Do I see the benefit of being a lottery team? Of course. But I'll never want my team to lose.
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This is ridiculous. Even as a Sens fan, I'd be shocked if we're not a lottery team. You seem to be a homer on every aspect of the team.
I only post what I see. Ottawa has not shown the makings of a lottery team especially when I've seen a lot of the other eastern conference teams playing. Ottawa is being severely underrated as a team because of two bad games. Meh this isn't worth arguing. Any time someone argues against people for his own team he'll only be perceived as a "homer."
Oh Karlsson is gonna last, not top 5 but this kid can score 60+ pts this year easily. He is that talented. And as the team gets better and he gets older around ppg the future. He is one of the, if not the most, offensively talented dman in the game right now. Don't let his age fool you.
Oh Karlsson is gonna last, not top 5 but this kid can score 60+ pts this year easily. He is that talented. And as the team gets better and he gets older around ppg the future. He is one of the, if not the most, offensively talented dman in the game right now. Don't let his age fool you.
