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10-23-2011, 06:58 PM
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More Blame on Pearn?

So I was thinking about those too many men on the ice penalties and those defensive matchup blunders (GILL on the ice on OT last night). And was wondering, isn't Perry Pearn in charge of our defense? I remember on CBC, when PK jump on when he shouldn't it was Pearn that was yelling at him and Glen Healy said something about how Pearn coaches our defense and put out who's on.

So many its not Jacques fault but Pearn fault for putting Gill on in wrong situations or how our defense too weak to backup Price?

Does Pearn take over the PK and PP duties from Kirky last year too? No wonder we stink, when Pearn was in charge of the PP and PK for the rangers they were dead last.

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10-23-2011, 07:22 PM
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Something similar but way more subtle has been mentioned at l'Anti-Chambre last Friday.

But is it Pearn the problem or the absence of Muller that is missing?

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10-23-2011, 07:28 PM
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Muller was the glue that held it together
Martin is a not so hot in-game coach and its starting to show

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10-23-2011, 07:32 PM
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I miss how Muller was always talking to his players behind the bench.

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10-23-2011, 07:42 PM
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It's the coaching staff, JM is the final arbiter of every decision so he only gets the blame. You don't blame the amateur scouts for Timmins' picks, same goes here.

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I love when folks who aren't even sure what Pearn's role with the team is throw rocks at the man. The same who folks who aren't even sure what Muller's role was kiss the ground he walks on. Bunch of ignorant melodramatic Chicken Littles.



NEWSFLASH: Kirk Muller never did run our Powerplay! Perry Pearn ran it the last two years when it was near the top of the league and he's running it now when it's at the bottom of the league! It's early in the season. Even the top teams hit the skids a couple of times a year. Everyone take a pill and relax! You've become a parody of your bipolar selves and you're making a mockery of all Habs fans!

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Muller was the glue that held it together
Martin is a not so hot in-game coach and its starting to show
I think this is a very good point. He implements a system that the players should be following but during the game he doesn't have much to do other than watch. It's not a knock on JM it's just that that's his style.

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Wasn't Muller's job to fill up water bottles?

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yes he is more to blame, but ultimately martin is. he's the head coach, everything else is his responsibility.

if the powerplay doesn't work because he perceives pearn to be no good at it then it is his job to replace him with someone who can. if he doesn't, it becomes his fault.

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Wasn't Muller's job to fill up water bottles?
Didn't you know Muller had exclusive access to the magic potion from Getafix??
That's why we were good..


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10-23-2011, 11:18 PM
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I love when folks who aren't even sure what Pearn's role with the team is throw rocks at the man. The same who folks who aren't even sure what Muller's role was kiss the ground he walks on.
I was going to say the same. It's amazing. Oh well.

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yes he is more to blame, but ultimately martin is. he's the head coach, everything else is his responsibility.

if the powerplay doesn't work because he perceives pearn to be no good at it then it is his job to replace him with someone who can. if he doesn't, it becomes his fault.
That logic absolves every individual of real responsibility other than the owner.

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That logic absolves every individual of real responsibility other than the owner.
Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.

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That logic absolves every individual of real responsibility other than the owner.
no it doesn't. but if the person in charge, in this case martin, continues to accept mistakes and subpar results from his subordinates, then it becomes his problem.

edit: then by the opposite logic, the responsibility lies only with the players. it's gotta be a balance. you can place the blame as the feet of the players for now, but if in 5 games, the powerplay still sucks, chances are the problem lies higher than the players, and so on...


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So I was thinking about those too many men on the ice penalties and those defensive matchup blunders (GILL on the ice on OT last night). And was wondering, isn't Perry Pearn in charge of our defense? I remember on CBC, when PK jump on when he shouldn't it was Pearn that was yelling at him and Glen Healy said something about how Pearn coaches our defense and put out who's on.

So many its not Jacques fault but Pearn fault for putting Gill on in wrong situations or how our defense too weak to backup Price?

Does Pearn take over the PK and PP duties from Kirky last year too? No wonder we stink, when Pearn was in charge of the PP and PK for the rangers they were dead last.

FIRE PEARN!
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Pearn was coaching special teams before Muller left I think.

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no it doesn't. but if the person in charge, in this case martin, continues to accept mistakes and subpar results from his subordinates, then it becomes his problem.

edit: then by the opposite logic, the responsibility lies only with the players. it's gotta be a balance. you can place the blame as the feet of the players for now, but if in 5 games, the powerplay still sucks, chances are the problem lies higher than the players, and so on...
You make it sound like he is happy with losing...which is quite comical

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Last year :

MTL @ TOR : 0/3
MTL @ PIT : 0/3
MTL vs TBL : 0/3
MTL @ BUF : 1/2
MTL vs OTT : 0/5
MTL vs NJD : 0/3
MTL @ OTT : 0/4

Thats 1/23 after 7 games, worse than our current efficiency. The scorer being...Josh Gorges.

And as the overall standings are more heavily connected that usually with the special units at this stage of the season...we're screwed as long as we dont fix them.

[Washington and Pittsburgh are the best teams on the PP and PK respectively. They're 1st and 2nd in the standings.
Colorado, 3rd, has the 2nd best PP unit.

Dallas and LA are "fortunate" to have two goalies on fire to start the season, but even then, the Kings are top-10 in both units, and they're very solid defensively at ES.

Columbus, last team to stay politely behind us ? 10% on the PP, 64% on the PK. Thats just horrible.

The teams with 2 wins are all on the bottom-half on the PP, 4% for the Rangers, 12% for Winnipeg, 16% for Calgary. The problem being the combination "mediocre if not worse on the PP, and we cant buy a goal at ES" (the best of them, Winnipeg, is 20th on GF/G)

San Jose sucked so bad to start the season because of their PK, too. Niemi was out, White is gone, take your pick.]

Last year, we had the chance to be more efficient on the PK (90%), but since we're forced to play Weber there (or rookies), we take some risks.

We're 20th on the PK and 29th on the PP. Impossible to build some momentum, and obviously, the goals are not going your way. You know that as it is right now, you're starting the game, basically, with a 1-goal deficit.

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