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10-25-2011, 10:27 AM
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I love these line-ups that aren't including Eminger, who's been playing great hockey.

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10-25-2011, 10:28 AM
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So Bell was sent down but that was likely going to happen anyways with Sauer hopefullly close

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10-25-2011, 10:46 AM
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I love these line-ups that aren't including Eminger, who's been playing great hockey.
em has been adequate. his game is just that. adequate.

pretty sure this is another one of slats attempts to find lightening in a bottle and create something from nothing. there just isnt anyone available we can afford or would deal for, so its plays like this that slats is left with. his track record here isnt very good though really.

stralman is a bridge to staal. if this guy comes in and gives us some decent minutes and provides a little gittyup from our blue line, then its a no brainer.

one thing this says to me is that they havent got a ton of confidence with mdz or erixon to deliver the mail. neither is providing enough so far and nights 3rd pair have exactly zero ability to create anything other than bang it off the glass.

our weak shot totals and lack of any production from the blue line says we need some talent back there even at the expense of some physicality provided by last nights 3rd pair.

this guy isnt terrible, in fact, if we can live with his aversion to bodychecking and focus on his first step and first pass, he may be more than serviceable.

unless slats kills him on the bench...

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10-25-2011, 10:48 AM
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No it spells more of the exerciser bike for Woywitka and Bell to the minors. Bell = Gilroy with a worse defensive sense. The guy can skate like the wind but he's got the hockeyIQ of an alpaca.
That's (8) d-men though. Who, besides Woywitka, is sitting?

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10-25-2011, 10:50 AM
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LB reporting that the offer was made late last week, you gotta think a man who was desperate to get to the NHL would have signed it by now, whatever it was. Doubtful that the Rangers are going to waver much if he's looking for more.

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10-25-2011, 11:25 AM
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I was kinda disappointed when the Blue Jackets didn't qualify him, but under those circumstances I can understand why, considering the salary they had to qualify.

However, IMO, Strålman is a better player than all of Russell, Clitsome and Martinek. What I can't understand is why they chose these guys over him and then went on handing an outragious multiyear deal to Marc ****ing Methot.
Clitsome is much better than Stralman, seeing them play side by side last year it was painfully obvious. Stralman put up 18 pts in 51 games. Clitsome put up 19 pts in 31 games. Clitsome was a +2 and Stralman was a -11

I wold put Stralman and Russell on the same level, comparing him to Martinek isn't fair. Martinek is a defensive d-man and Stralman is an offensive d-man.

Jan Hejda put up more points than Stralman last year, the guy was always "sick", claiming he didn't have the correct nutrient levels to compete, and all this other crap. If I had a choice between Stralman and Russell, I am sticking with Russell, his skating is better and he is quicker.

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10-25-2011, 01:02 PM
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em has been adequate. his game is just that. adequate.

pretty sure this is another one of slats attempts to find lightening in a bottle and create something from nothing. there just isnt anyone available we can afford or would deal for, so its plays like this that slats is left with. his track record here isnt very good though really.

stralman is a bridge to staal. if this guy comes in and gives us some decent minutes and provides a little gittyup from our blue line, then its a no brainer.

one thing this says to me is that they havent got a ton of confidence with mdz or erixon to deliver the mail. neither is providing enough so far and nights 3rd pair have exactly zero ability to create anything other than bang it off the glass.

our weak shot totals and lack of any production from the blue line says we need some talent back there even at the expense of some physicality provided by last nights 3rd pair.

this guy isnt terrible, in fact, if we can live with his aversion to bodychecking and focus on his first step and first pass, he may be more than serviceable.

unless slats kills him on the bench...
In my opinion, Eminger has been more than adequate as a bottom-pairing defenceman -- he's played his role well. I wouldn't expect Strålman to take his spot, rather Erixon's.

You're right, though, this does look like another Sather lightning-in-a-bottle moment. It wouldn't hurt, but what, really would it help? I guess we got a pleasant surprise with Eminger, in that, if you ask him to play a limited role, he's quite good at it.

Which leads me to think what's Ilkka Heikkinen been up to? I guess he's under contract, but he's got 6 goals (7 pts) in 14 games at Växjö... And for that matter, why don't they give a guy like V-Tank or Kundratek at least a cup of coffee, considering it's so early in the season?

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10-25-2011, 01:43 PM
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Spoke w/ Anton Stralman's agent this am...declined to comment on client's status re: NYR but did say that he isn't in US now. Back in SWE
https://twitter.com/#!/KatieStrangES...03192510611456

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10-25-2011, 02:11 PM
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Clitsome is much better than Stralman, seeing them play side by side last year it was painfully obvious. Stralman put up 18 pts in 51 games. Clitsome put up 19 pts in 31 games. Clitsome was a +2 and Stralman was a -11

I wold put Stralman and Russell on the same level, comparing him to Martinek isn't fair. Martinek is a defensive d-man and Stralman is an offensive d-man.

Jan Hejda put up more points than Stralman last year, the guy was always "sick", claiming he didn't have the correct nutrient levels to compete, and all this other crap. If I had a choice between Stralman and Russell, I am sticking with Russell, his skating is better and he is quicker.
He didn't have the correct nutrient levels to compete, that is why he claimed just that. He took antibiotics to a point where specialists warned him he'd get immune. He needed surgery to get rid of the problem. It's pretty obvious the guy was in scrappy shape. Competing at the highest level is impossible if you never are healthy and judging him solely based on last season isn't fair to the guy, IMO. He played very well for the Blue Jackets in his first season, before his problems started.

I agree, Clitsome played very well the first month or so, then he started to dip. Let's see how he does over an 82-game season before claiming him to be superior to anyone. I don't think points or +/- is as important as you seem to do, espacially with over such a limited period of time. As a comparison though, I'd like to point out that Stralman netted 29 points in his first 53 games for the Jackets before the health issues occured. I'd be very surprised if Clitsome or Russell gets close to that in the near future.

You are right, comparing him to Martinek is wrong in terms of play. What I meant to say is that if I had one roster spot open and no gigantic need to adress, I'd rather have Stralman on my team.

With that said: I really hope the Blue Jackets turn it around, your fanbase deserves better. As I followed the Jackets pretty closely the last couple of seasons, (mostly because of Stralman, Huselius, Pahlsson, Voracek and Nash) I started to like the team (and fans) very much. With Stralman and Voracek gone and Huselius injured I probably won't watch as many games, but I'll absolutely cheer for you guys to get some success.

To the rest of you. Sorry about hi-jacking the thread. Back on topic: any news on the situation yet?


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10-25-2011, 11:50 PM
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Look at how many teams were 1-and-done with Eminger
Good point!

Also, sometimes a player like need to hit rock bottom before they can like start over. Strålman rightfully was hyped in Toronto and came into the league with alot of expectations. He couldn't perform and has seemed pressured ever since.

Look at a kid like Boyle. In LA he was also weightend by the expectations. Here after a year he could settle down.

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10-26-2011, 08:13 AM
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Not super excited by this, would rather see what it would cost to get Franson from Toronto. Although getting Strallman and Sauer returning would make our D look a bit better.

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Not super excited by this, would rather see what it would cost to get Franson from Toronto. Although getting Strallman and Sauer returning would make our D look a bit better.
Well Sauer is going to make a huge difference in the home opener and I doubt they sign Stralman as that was likely an old rumor and if he was going to accept the offer he would have.

They can get by with the below until Staal is ready but I am sure they are still looking at a vet and then they would give Erixon some time in CT to develop

McDonaugh, Girardi
Del Zotto, Sauer
Erixon, Eminger
Woywitka

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10-26-2011, 08:29 AM
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i really can't see toronto dealing anyone, especially to a rival. think price would be far too high for Gunnarsson or Franson. Sadly i think our only option is trading and taking on contract years or try get lucky with a free agent.

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I really REALLY hate Eric Staal now.

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Not trying to speculate or go off topic, but I was listening to TSN Radio this morning and they had Darren Dreger on, he said he believes that the Rangers have been talking to the Leafs about Franson, no mention of names going the other way. I know its just rumblings but Dreger is pretty consistent on his coverage and doesn't usually throw stuff out there just for the sake of saying it.

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ehhhhhhh

Franson is OK if you have a strong top 4 and can give him sheltered minutes on the 3rd pairing and give him PP time otherwise you're just going to be disappointed

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Franson is OK if you have a strong top 4 and can give him sheltered minutes on the 3rd pairing and give him PP time otherwise you're just going to be disappointed
I think that's the plan. 3rd pair ,PP time

Franson for Eminger and a 4th rounder

Leafs get a guy who can looked at as a spare and a pick. They got Franson for nothing pretty much

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I think that's the plan. 3rd pair ,PP time

Franson for Eminger and a 4th rounder

Leafs get a guy who can looked at as a spare and a pick. They got Franson for nothing pretty much
No interest in Eminger with the glut of dmen that we have. A prospect like Bourque and he's yours.

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Anton Babchuk has sat out 3 straight now in Calgary, maybe that's who we are looking at with all these NYR/Cal rumors going around. His cap his is only 2.5 this year and next. Always liked him, again though all comes down to what the price is.

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This can only mean the organization doesn't think Staal will be back soon. Really no other way to look at it.
I don't see how. Linking us to a defenseman like Suter would suggest that, but adding Stralman will do nothing for our defense.

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Go for broke! Between now and 2015 2 1sts 2 2nds and some combination of Thomas, MZA, McI, Bourque, Girardi, Sauer, Erixon all on the table for Weber!

I think we coulda beat out SJ offer for Burns. Quick get in a time machine! better yet knee cap Eric Staal prior to our game...no no no go back...win the lotto a few times, bribe some of the 2004 Rangers to throw games and draft Crosby...oh and break Sathers writing hand before he can sign the unholy three.

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Anton Babchuk has sat out 3 straight now in Calgary, maybe that's who we are looking at with all these NYR/Cal rumors going around. His cap his is only 2.5 this year and next. Always liked him, again though all comes down to what the price is.
Anyone who has a contract beyond this year is a non-starter unless we are sending a similar contract the other way.

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Gilroy 2.0, but actually has a slapshot?

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I think he's a better passer and playmaker than Gilroy. Advanced vision. The problem with Stralman is he's very uninvolved when the puck isn't on his stick. I'm still okay with giving him a shot, but at this point, who knows how much validity there is to this claim?

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He is supposed to sign in the near future, according to a "source" to Aftonbladet.

http://mobil.aftonbladet.se/sportbla...cle13859294.ab

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