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11-05-2005, 02:14 PM
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Atl/Was Proposal

To Wash
Kovalchuck

To Atlanta
Semin,Ovechkin

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11-05-2005, 02:23 PM
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why would they trade within the divison?

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11-05-2005, 02:45 PM
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Ovechkin and Kovalchuk are part of a small handful of guys in this league that are untouchable. Don't even bother making proposals involving these two guys.

Aside from that, a trade between division rivals like this wouldn't happen either.

I don't know why Semin is even in the proposal....

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11-05-2005, 02:54 PM
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It's tough to even gauge the value of these sides at this point, with AO only playing a dozen games in the NHL. He's been very impressive, granted, and so was/is Ilya. I suppose if both players theoretically hated the cities they play in, and both GMs wanted to keep similar players, a deal like:

Was:
AO, future considerations

ATL:
Kovalchuk, future considerations

could be made. But really, there's no point of doing that. Sorry.

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11-05-2005, 02:55 PM
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It's tough to even gauge the value of these sides at this point, with AO only playing a dozen games in the NHL. He's been very impressive, granted, and so was/is Ilya. I suppose if both players theoretically hated the cities they play in, and both GMs wanted to keep similar players, a deal like:

Was:
AO, future considerations

ATL:
Kovalchuk, future considerations

could be made. But really, there's no point of doing that. Sorry.
I agree with this. A very lateral move, much like the Hossa for Heatley type deal. I could have possibly seen this happening earlier this season when Kovalchuk stayed in Russia and if Ovechkin had some contract dispute and wanted to change teams.

In this case, if I am Washington I would prefer Ovechkin right now, mostly because of age and salary reasons.

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11-05-2005, 04:01 PM
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To Wash
Kovalchuck

To Atlanta
Semin,Ovechkin
Caps dont trade Ovechkin straight up for Kovalchuck....much less throw in a blue chip prospect

in other words....no chance lance

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11-05-2005, 04:10 PM
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No team...I mean NO TEAM should ever allowed that mercenary Semin to ever play in the NHL again in his life. He can rot in Russia all his life.

The deal makes no sense for both teams.

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11-05-2005, 05:53 PM
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To Wash
Kovalchuck

To Atlanta
Semin,Ovechkin
This is your brain on drugs. Kovalchuck alone with his huge salary and penchant for not being able to play defense. More like this gets any attention:

Kovalchuck, Lehtonen, Coburn, and Hossa for Ovechkin and Laich. Semin would take 2 of those names at least by himself. Ovechkin is that well like, and has been performing with basically no supporting cast. Basically he is untouchable.

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11-05-2005, 07:10 PM
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Semin might play his whole career in Russia, so he is just some sort of throw in to the deal.

why would these divisional rivals exchange franchise players?

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11-05-2005, 07:22 PM
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This is your brain on drugs. Kovalchuck alone with his huge salary and penchant for not being able to play defense. More like this gets any attention:

Kovalchuck, Lehtonen, Coburn, and Hossa for Ovechkin and Laich. Semin would take 2 of those names at least by himself. Ovechkin is that well like, and has been performing with basically no supporting cast. Basically he is untouchable.
Priceless.

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11-05-2005, 07:35 PM
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"Semin would take 2 of those names at least by himself."

Every time I think I've read the dumbest thing on HF, borro takes over.

I apologize for underestimating him.

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"Semin would take 2 of those names at least by himself."

Every time I think I've read the dumbest thing on HF, borro takes over.

I apologize for underestimating him.
Antropov for Witt any day now.

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11-05-2005, 08:30 PM
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why would the Capitals do that? Why would they want Kovulchuk instead of Ovechkin? Ovechkin is a complete player and a team player and a player that puts winning ahead of personal gain. He plays defense, he hits...big hits.

Kovulchuk doesnt do that. Explain to me why the Capitals would do that deal?

As it is the Caps with a an embarrassingly inexperienced lineup has won more games than the Thrashers.

Why would you even bring this up?

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11-06-2005, 12:07 AM
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Every time I think I've read the dumbest thing on HF, borro takes over.
So True

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This is your brain on drugs: Kovalchuck, Lehtonen, Coburn, and Hossa for Ovechkin and Laich. Semin would take 2 of those names at least by himself. Ovechkin is that well like, and has been performing with basically no supporting cast. Basically he is untouchable.

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11-06-2005, 01:24 AM
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I thought borro gave up HF?





Either way, I do think that Semin isn't just a throw in. If he never comes back to the NHL (which I'd be surprised) that's his choice.


But he is a talented prospect. Maybe a new setting would entice him to return. A team with more Russians might make him more at ease.


I might be in the minority, but if it was Ovechkin for Kovalchuk, I'd have to think long and hard about doing it if I'm the Caps. Kovalchuk has shown he can put out production for the longer term then Ovechkin. I'm not saying Ovechkin isn't going to be a good player, I think he could be amazing. But Kovalchuk already is there. Kovalchuk is still getting better as well. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. I'd be hard pressed to pass. However, seeing the first games of this season, I'd probably stick AO out.

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11-07-2005, 02:58 AM
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I would definately do this trade if i was atlanta, but other hand if i was washington, i would never do this. Ovechkin might be better than Ilya already.

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