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10-26-2011, 02:55 AM
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Fagerudd is doing good in Luleå's J20 SuperElit, 3+7 in 10 games, leading his team in points. I'm not sure whether we need another offensive D-man on the team..?
We have many guys with FEL/Mestis experience competing for a spot. I don't think a guy like Fagerudd has a chance, to be honest. We have a very good depth in defense, but we are lacking a clear #1 defenseman like Vatanen.

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10-26-2011, 09:51 AM
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Ma. Granlund - Mi. Granlund - Armia
Teräväinen - Salomäki - Pulkkinen
Ruuttu - Mustonen - Donskoi
Partanen - Barkov - Torniainen
Åsten



Määttä - Riikola
Pokka - Ristolainen
Valkonen - Hakanpää
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10-26-2011, 10:08 AM
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Ma. Granlund - Mi. Granlund - Armia
Teräväinen - Salomäki - Pulkkinen
Ruuttu - Mustonen - Donskoi
Partanen - Barkov - Torniainen
Åsten



Määttä - Riikola
Pokka - Ristolainen
Valkonen - Hakanpää
Fagerudd
I doubt Torniainen has a chance, he's had a slow start to the year and right now he's far away from getting a place on HIFK roster, and hasn't been playing big minutes in Jr.A either.

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10-26-2011, 11:52 AM
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We have many guys with FEL/Mestis experience competing for a spot. I don't think a guy like Fagerudd has a chance, to be honest. We have a very good depth in defense, but we are lacking a clear #1 defenseman like Vatanen.
I wouldn't completely count Fagerrud out, he's leading his team in points. If he would get some time in Elitserien, he'd totally be in contention for a spot in the final WJC roster.

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10-26-2011, 03:32 PM
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I doubt Torniainen has a chance, he's had a slow start to the year and right now he's far away from getting a place on HIFK roster, and hasn't been playing big minutes in Jr.A either.
I heard he was injured at beginning of the season. Maybe his machine is just warming up.

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10-26-2011, 09:35 PM
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Esa Lindell with 1+1 again. That's 16. 6+16=22 and only 2 PIM. What's the points record for defensemen in junior A SM-liiga?

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10-27-2011, 04:30 AM
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Donskoi - Mi Granlund - Armia
Ma Granlund - Salomäki - Pulkkinen
Ruuttu - Barkov - Teräväinen
Partanen - Mustonen - Åsten

Ristolainen - Määttä
Hakanpää - Pokka
Riikola - Vainonen

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10-27-2011, 04:59 AM
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Too bad that Vatanen is too old for this tournament. The team would look so awesome with Sami on it (it looks great now too but it could be better).

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10-27-2011, 02:16 PM
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P.NameYearH.lbs.L/RMestisGPIGAAPctMin\Jr.GPIGAAPctMin
GKVille Kolppanen-926.00187LLeKi21.000.969120\Snezhnye Barsy (MHL)21.000.968120
GKJonathan Iilahti-926.01174LSport31.000.965180\Sport54.020.873298
GKSami Rajaniemi-926.00163LJYP Ak.52.200.938300\-----
GKSamu Perhonen-936.05187LJYP Ak.53.170.904303\-----
GKSami Aittokallio-926.01172LLeKi25.700.807116\Ilves32.600.914185
GKChristopher Gibson-926.01187L-----\Chicoutimi (QMJHL)93.110.897483

Just thinking about the goalie situation, it seems to be wide open at this point.
I just realized that there has been no talk about Richard Ullberg. Has three starts in the FEL already, although tonight wasn't his night.

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I just realized that there has been no talk about Richard Ullberg. Has three starts in the FEL already, although tonight wasn't his night.
He still seems very rough around the edges. I guess there's no harm listing him with the others, but he might be a stronger candidate next year with all the 92's out of the picture.

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10-27-2011, 05:08 PM
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He still seems very rough around the edges. I guess there's no harm listing him with the others, but he might be a stronger candidate next year with all the 92's out of the picture.
Maybe he can "steal" a spot on next year's team.

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Maybe he can "steal" a spot on next year's team.
Oh snap!

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Maybe he can "steal" a spot on next year's team.
Sounds quite serious, it's not like David de Gea and the story about the doughnut. I know that some goalies talk to goal posts while others have a desire to drive the team bus when intoxicated, but this is a new one for me. I hope the kid gets over his troubles.

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10-28-2011, 08:27 AM
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Kummola strikes again! Granlund will be in the WJC roster .

http://www.iltalehti.fi/jaakiekko/20...58799_jk.shtml

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Maybe he can "steal" a spot on next year's team.
Lol, great one

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Sounds quite serious, it's not like David de Gea and the story about the doughnut. I know that some goalies talk to goal posts while others have a desire to drive the team bus when intoxicated, but this is a new one for me. I hope the kid gets over his troubles.
http://www.iltalehti.fi/jaakiekko/20...49251_jk.shtml

I didn't actually know that this was Ullberg. Well, now I see why HIFK did let him go...


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Teräväinen - Mi. Granlund - Armia
Donskoi - Barkov - Pulkkinen
Ma. Granlund - Mustonen - Salomäki
H. Ikonen - Ruuttu - Åsten
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Ikonen hasn't played in FEL in recent games so his stock is falling. Does KalPa have an affiliate in Mestis? On the other hand, Markus Hännikäinen is really starting to look comfortable in FEL level.

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10-29-2011, 07:51 AM
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Esa Lindell playing with Kiekko-Vantaa today and depending on how he does there, he might see some action with the Jokerit in SM-liiga.

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Esa Lindell playing with Kiekko-Vantaa today and depending on how he does there, he might see some action with the Jokerit in SM-liiga.
I don’t think there’s much point bringing his name up repeatedly in this thread. It’s not like he has a proper chance of making the WJC-team, not even if he gets one or two SM-liiga games. Vainonen and Lehtonen are also 94’s and have already played in the SM-liiga, but I don’t see them having much of a chance making the team either.

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Hakanpää have been quite impressive at fel games. Nice at own end but have been solid at rushing puck to the O.

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10-29-2011, 10:35 PM
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I don’t think there’s much point bringing his name up repeatedly in this thread. It’s not like he has a proper chance of making the WJC-team, not even if he gets one or two SM-liiga games. Vainonen and Lehtonen are also 94’s and have already played in the SM-liiga, but I don’t see them having much of a chance making the team either.
TOI 21:25 (3rd highest on Ki-Va)
Most TOI in the second period of all players on Ki-Va (8:48)
On ice for one powerplay goal for Ki-Va
One shot (saved) on goal from the blue line

He's going to get his chance with Jokerit soon.

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Petteri Lindbohm might have a chance to take a spot? Don't know how he would do on small rinks. Haven't seen him play. Someone who's seen him play maybe can tell me/us what his chances could be?

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TOI 21:25 (3rd highest on Ki-Va)
Most TOI in the second period of all players on Ki-Va (8:48)
On ice for one powerplay goal for Ki-Va
One shot (saved) on goal from the blue line

He's going to get his chance with Jokerit soon.
There were six U20 defensemen playing in that game, and just based on stats you say that it’s Lindell who’s going to be playing in SM-liiga soon? I can’t see Lindell permanently bypassing any of the following defensemen in Jokerit’s depth chart this season; Dehner, Väänänen, Niemi, Klingberg, Eronen, Nordlund, Kivistö or Manelius. Lindell could be the 1st in line as an emergency call up if several injuries occur at the same time, but I can’t see him as a long term solution.

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Petteri Lindbohm might have a chance to take a spot? Don't know how he would do on small rinks. Haven't seen him play. Someone who's seen him play maybe can tell me/us what his chances could be?
Lindbohm has been to one U20 event this season, so Helminen knows him, but I don’t see him having much of a chance making the team as long as most of the top candidates are healthy. And if he makes the team, it'll be as a 7th defenseman. Personally I see Vainonen as a better defenseman than Lindbohm, both are big and need to work on their skating, but Vainonen is better with the puck and has more sense in his game.

If you check the participants to the last three U20 events (Vierumäki test camp in May, Lace Placid Summer Challenge and 4 Nations tournament in Moscow), you can see that Jani Hakanpää, Henri Auvinen, Valtteri Hietanen, Konsta Mäkinen, Olli Määttä, Samuli Kankaanperä, Julius Nyqvist, Simo-Pekka Riikola and Joonas Valkonen have been to at least 2 of them. When you add Ville Pokka and Rasmus Ristolainen to the mix, you should pretty much get the strongest candidates to the WJC’s. Helminen would probably need a good reason to pick from outside of these 11 defensemen, especially if Pokka and Ristolainen are the only less familiar faces at the upcoming 4 nations tournament in Vaasa (just a presumption).

Määttä – Pokka
Mäkinen – Hakanpää
Valkonen – Ristolainen
Kankaaperä – Riikola
Hietanen – Nyqvist
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10-30-2011, 12:15 PM
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There were six U20 defensemen playing in that game, and just based on stats you say that it’s Lindell who’s going to be playing in SM-liiga soon? I can’t see Lindell permanently bypassing any of the following defensemen in Jokerit’s depth chart this season; Dehner, Väänänen, Niemi, Klingberg, Eronen, Nordlund, Kivistö or Manelius. Lindell could be the 1st in line as an emergency call up if several injuries occur at the same time, but I can’t see him as a long term solution.
It's not my opinions but rather the Jokerit posters at Jatkoaika that have heard so.

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Finnish U20 players in SM-liiga, 4 games played of more

Forwards:

Mikael Granlund 21points
Teemu Pulkkinen 13p
Miikka Salomäki 11p
Aleksander Barkov 7p
Joel Armia 7p
Joonas Donskoi 6p
Markus Granlund 4p
Micke ÅSten 1p
Teuvo Teräväinne 1p
Alexander Ruuttu 1p
Otto Paajanen 1p
Teemu Rautiainen 1p
Santtu Huhtala 0p
Markus Hännikäinen 0p
Henri Ikonen 0p
Miiko Hintz 0p
Miro Aaltonen 0p
Mikael Kuronen 0p

Defencemen:

Rasmus Ristolainen 4p
Jani Hakanpää 2p
Simo-Pekka Riikola 1p
Ville Pokka 1p
Mikko Vainonen 0p

Goalies:

Aittokallio 3 games played
Ullberg 3 games played

It's safe to say many of these guys will appear in WJC

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