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10-30-2011, 10:24 AM
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While I agree with you. He gets allot of Selke rep because of his PK ability

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10-30-2011, 10:32 AM
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He's approaching top ten in the league, especially by the end of the year. He still makes some bad turnovers and his defense so far has been hot and cold, but the potential is there for him to become another Pavel Datsyuk, but with a little more edge.

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10-30-2011, 10:41 AM
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Simply put, no he's not. That's a bit silly.

I don't think he has the defensive deficiencies some people think; I still think he is well above average defensively. He's got fantastic instincts on both sides of the ice, but he's just a tad too small to be able to handle some players defensively.

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10-30-2011, 10:44 AM
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He's approaching top ten in the league, especially by the end of the year. He still makes some bad turnovers and his defense so far has been hot and cold, but the potential is there for him to become another Pavel Datsyuk, but with a little more edge.
I'm a huge Datsyuk fan. If he played with more of an edge, he'd probably be the best player in the league.

That said, I like the old comparison of Giroux with Foppa. He's no where near as physical, which is probably a good thing for his career, but he is able to just take over a game.

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10-30-2011, 11:00 AM
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I would take Crosby over him without thinking twice. Everyone else, it depends on who's having a good season and who is not. If he continues to play like he has, and I see no reason to believe he won't, I think he's putting himself in top 5 discussion.

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10-30-2011, 11:07 AM
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Giroux is top 5 easy, given all the different things he can do, and people need to start realizing that.

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10-30-2011, 11:21 AM
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I think the thing going forward with Giroux will be finding players with as much hockey sense and finishing ability to play with him. Carter really didn't work as well as it should of cause he shoots no matter what the angle and didn't have great accuracy or offensive hockey sense as far as finding the open areas on the ice. Look what Jagr has done for his production, but he will only be around for maybe one more year. JVR has look good at times with him but I wouldn't put him in the category of a pure finisher. Schenn is intriguing but still unknown. Should be interesting.

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10-30-2011, 02:05 PM
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I remember years ago when I was following Giroux's Q career, and got to watch him some (especially the Memorial Cup run), I told some co-workers that Giroux might be the best offensive player the Flyers will have moving forward. They never heard of him.

I was laughed at. But oddly enough, these are the same morons that called Carter and Richards "bums" and said they needed to be traded before the Cup final run. I guess that says a bit more about Homer than it does about these guys.

Regardless, no, he's not. Crosby is the best, hands down. Giroux is an incredible player, and an example of what Homer can do with a first round pick. Hopefully the Flyers front office decides to take their hands off the team and finally let them develop as a team from season to season, as well as let homer show his scouting prowess.

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10-30-2011, 03:28 PM
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10-30-2011, 04:08 PM
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I remember years ago when I was following Giroux's Q career, and got to watch him some (especially the Memorial Cup run), I told some co-workers that Giroux might be the best offensive player the Flyers will have moving forward. They never heard of him.

I was laughed at. But oddly enough, these are the same morons that called Carter and Richards "bums" and said they needed to be traded before the Cup final run. I guess that says a bit more about Homer than it does about these guys.

Regardless, no, he's not. Crosby is the best, hands down. Giroux is an incredible player, and an example of what Homer can do with a first round pick. Hopefully the Flyers front office decides to take their hands off the team and finally let them develop as a team from season to season, as well as let homer show his scouting prowess.
Clarke was the GM when we picked Giroux.

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10-30-2011, 04:35 PM
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10-30-2011, 04:45 PM
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obviously its Lilja..

i mean look at his performance lately..

oh wait, nm..

haahh
Tip of the day. Do not quit your day job.

That being said. I am not one to say were Giroux belongs in the ratings. But I sure as hell am glad the rangers pasted on him. He just gets better and better. And he is still just 23. The kid has a lot of Clarkie in him and he plays better when he has a attitude. Glad he is on the Flyers.


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10-30-2011, 05:07 PM
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Clarke was the GM when we picked Giroux.
It was largely believed that for awhile Homer was making the draft choices, as he was heavily involved with scouting.

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10-30-2011, 05:13 PM
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Clarke was the GM when we picked Giroux.
Holmgren was in charge of scouting, talent analysis, and most likely had the final decision when it came to draft picks.

Clarke just read the names at that point, albeit at times poorly.

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10-30-2011, 05:20 PM
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I love Giroux, but no. There are a few players that I would take before him.

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10-30-2011, 06:30 PM
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lol @ the OP.

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10-30-2011, 07:12 PM
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As far as forwards go he's probably top 15-20 offensively, top 25-30 overall. If he ends this year at a ppg or more than I'd cautiously move him into the top 20 overall. If he improves on his goal totals and hits 30 (and probably close to 90 points) then I might consider him a top 10 offensive player. He has all the ability, but it has to be realized before you can anoint him a top 10 offensive player. Also, I say "might" because I really think if you're going to be considered that good you have to do it for multiple years.

And no. He's is not the best player. Crosby is the best player until he shows otherwise.

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10-30-2011, 07:55 PM
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As far as forwards go he's probably top 15-20 offensively, top 25-30 overall. If he ends this year at a ppg or more than I'd cautiously move him into the top 20 overall. If he improves on his goal totals and hits 30 (and probably close to 90 points) then I might consider him a top 10 offensive player. He has all the ability, but it has to be realized before you can anoint him a top 10 offensive player. Also, I say "might" because I really think if you're going to be considered that good you have to do it for multiple years.

And no. He's is not the best player. Crosby is the best player until he shows otherwise.
I can't believe this post. He is better than 15-20 offensively, and overall, WHY WOULD HE BE LOWER??? He is a 2-way player. He finished high in Selke voting last year and has shown a lot of improvement at both ends this year.

I don't know how you could possibly name 25 better forwards than Claude Giroux.

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10-30-2011, 08:06 PM
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Holmgren was in charge of scouting, talent analysis, and most likely had the final decision when it came to draft picks.

Clarke just read the names at that point, albeit at times poorly.
In Giroux's case, he didn't read it.

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10-30-2011, 09:17 PM
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What a stupid thread

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It seems like the way the OP laid this one out that the better question would be is Giroux a candidate for the best player in the game at the moment.

And I think that if that's the case you would have an argument that right now, he's playing at a level that has him as one of the best performers in the league. Will that be the case over a full year, no. Too many other stars aren't playing their best hockey yet, but at this time I think he's playing as good as anyone in the league.

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10-30-2011, 11:25 PM
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It seems like the way the OP laid this one out that the better question would be is Giroux a candidate for the best player in the game at the moment.
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10-30-2011, 11:59 PM
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I've said it before; I'll say it again:
I want to have Claude Giroux's babies. I don't know if that makes him the best player in the NHL or not, but there it is there.

We'll let him know, you just go order a tub of astroglide now .

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I've said it before; I'll say it again:
I want to have Claude Giroux's babies. I don't know if that makes him the best player in the NHL or not, but there it is there.

Makes you the nastiest player on HFBoards, for sure.

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If you take the Crosby, Ovechkin and Malkins out of the equation then he has a small chance of maybe being the best one day. Small chance.

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