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11-02-2011, 07:14 PM
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2010 Redraft

I know its very early and it will probably take atleast 5 years to get a clear picture but I'm in class and bored so I thought I would give it a go.

Please dont get too crazy if your teams player isnt listed. This was an awesome draft and There is only so much room. I welcome any opinions

I'm sure I probably forgot someone so please point anyone extremely obvious out.

1. Hall
2. Fowler
3. Skinner
4. Seguin
5. Johansen

6. Nino
7. Tarasenko
8. Granlund
9. Etem
10. Gudbranson

11. Coyle
12. Schwartz
13. Connolly
14. Gormley
15. Campbell

Edit: a couple days after this I already have changed my mind about some some peoples positions. Gudb would be lower, Campbell would be lower. Probably switch 7 and 8.


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11-02-2011, 07:55 PM
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Hall
Skinner
Fowler
Seguin
Gudbranson
connoly
johansen
nino
gormley
granlund

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11-02-2011, 08:05 PM
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1. Hall
2. Seguin
3. Skinner
4. Fowler
5. Granlund

6. Johansen
7. Burmistrov
8. tarasenko
9. Neiderreitter
10. Kuznetsov


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11-02-2011, 08:11 PM
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No love for Burmistrov?

That's rather disappointing.

I'd say:
Hall
Seguin
Skinner
Burmistrov
Gudbranson
Fowler
Granlund
Johansen
Schwartz
Connolly
Tarasenko

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11-02-2011, 08:13 PM
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I'm sure I probably forgot someone so please point anyone extremely obvious out.

1. Hall
2. Fowler
3. Skinner
4. Seguin
5. Johansen

6. Nino
7. Tarasenko
8. Granlund
9. Etem
10. Gudbranson

11. Coyle
12. Schwartz
13. Connolly
14. Gormley
15. Campbell
Etem's probably a bit too high despite the huge numbers in the WHL this year. If Connolly were still in juniors, he might be putting up similar totals as well. So we shouldn't penalize Connolly for cracking his NHL squad.

Burmistrov's done well enough to still be around #10. He got used in a bottom 6 role last year and did well. Now he's starting to put up some points with PP time.

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11-02-2011, 08:15 PM
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Hall
Fowler (no homer I do think he's THAT good)
Skinner
Seguin
Johansen
Burmistrov
Granlund
Etem (maybe a bit homerish but he's playing at a 99g 162pt pace that's monstrous)
El Nino
Tarasenko
Schwartz
Gudbranson
Connolly
Coyle
Campbell
Gormley

I'll stop there.

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11-02-2011, 08:20 PM
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Etem's probably a bit too high despite the huge numbers in the WHL this year. If Connolly were still in juniors, he might be putting up similar totals as well. So we shouldn't penalize Connolly for cracking his NHL squad.
I do believe Etem scored more goals than Connolly last year. Could be wrong...

But Etem not cracking his squad wasn't because he wasn't ready. Selanne's return prevented him from having a spot on the second line, and Carlyle wanted more physicality on the third line (why DSP is there instead) and there was no way in hell we were playing him on the 4th line.

So we really can't know until we compare the two side by side in the NHL. If he was AHL eligible I guarantee you he would've taken DSP's spot right now in a call up the way our offense has been going.

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11-02-2011, 08:21 PM
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1. Hall
2. Skinner
3. Seguin
4. Kuznetsov
5. Tarasenko
6. Fowler
7. Burmistrov
8. Granlund
9. Johansen
10. Connolly

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11-02-2011, 08:21 PM
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1. Hall
2. Skinner
3. Seguin
4. Fowler
5. Granlund
6. Johansen
7. Gudbranson
8. Niederreiter
9. Burmistrov
10. Tarasenko

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11-02-2011, 08:27 PM
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I do believe Etem scored more goals than Connolly last year. Could be wrong...But Etem not cracking his squad wasn't because he wasn't ready. Selanne's return prevented him from having a spot on the second line, and Carlyle wanted more physicality on the third line (why DSP is there instead) and there was no way in hell we were playing him on the 4th line.

So we really can't know until we compare the two side by side in the NHL. If he was AHL eligible I guarantee you he would've taken DSP's spot right now in a call up the way our offense has been going.
You are wrong.

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11-02-2011, 08:29 PM
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1. Hall
2. Seguin
3. Skinner
4. Fowler
5. Burmistrov
6. Granlund
7. Johansen
8. Gudbranson
9. Connolly
10. Niederreiter

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11-02-2011, 08:59 PM
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for me personally:

1. Hall
2. Skinner
3. Seguin
4. Fowler
5. Johansen
6. Tarasenko
7. Gudbranson
8. Connolly
9. Burmistrov
10. Kuznetsov

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11-02-2011, 09:14 PM
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1. Seguin
2. Hall
3. Skinner
4. Fowler
5. Tarasenko
6. Gudbranson
7. Johansen
8. Nino
9. Etem
10. Schwartz

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11-02-2011, 09:19 PM
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are you guys ****ing crazy? seguin is still the easy #2...

and im an oilers fan

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are you guys ****ing crazy? seguin is still the easy #2...

and im an oilers fan
That can't be saying TOO much. I'm sure Oiler fans were watching Seguin closely in case the Oilers took him instead.

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11-02-2011, 09:36 PM
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cant agree with Seguin being easy no.2 Fowler and Skinner both have great cases. I just personally like the way Fowler plays, nothing rattles that kid and his defensive game has substantially improved this year I can see him being a Norris contender in a few yrs...Skinner should be a regular ppg player himself.

Nothing against Seguin but Other players have developed very well since the draft...and Tarasenko may be the most talented of them all.

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11-02-2011, 09:57 PM
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Kuznetsov and Tarasenko are always ranked higher than Burmistrov in terms of Russian players drafted in 2010, but I think the fact that Burmistrov played in the OHL then immediately jumped to the NHL will help his development.

When is the last time a non-generational Russian player (ie. Ovechkin and Malkin) transitioned from the KHL to the NHL and started lighting it up right away? Semin? Kulemin? I think Kuznetsov and Tarasenko have been hyped massively since they were drafted (largely due to the fact that they lead the Russian WJC squad over our all mighty Canadian squad), while Burmistrov has taken quiet strides in his development and acclimated to the NA style of game. This season he looks poised to break out and has been getting the second most TOI of any forward on the Jets.

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11-02-2011, 10:12 PM
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Kuznetsov and Tarasenko are always ranked higher than Burmistrov in terms of Russian players drafted in 2010, but I think the fact that Burmistrov played in the OHL then immediately jumped to the NHL will help his development.

When is the last time a non-generational Russian player (ie. Ovechkin and Malkin) transitioned from the KHL to the NHL and started lighting it up right away? Semin? Kulemin? I think Kuznetsov and Tarasenko have been hyped massively since they were drafted (largely due to the fact that they lead the Russian WJC squad over our all mighty Canadian squad), while Burmistrov has taken quiet strides in his development and acclimated to the NA style of game. This season he looks poised to break out and has been getting the second most TOI of any forward on the Jets.
20 points in a season isn't exactly lighting it up. THIS season so far, is another story. He's playing quite well.

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11-02-2011, 10:17 PM
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No Hishon? Disappointing.

1. Hall
2. Skinner
3. Seguin
4. Burmistrov
5. Schwartz
6. Johansen
7. Coyle
8. Tarasenko
9. Fowler
10. Kuznetsov
11. Connolly
12. Hishon
13. Etem
14. Niederreiter
15.Gudbranson

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11-02-2011, 10:53 PM
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Seguin
Hall
Skinner
Fowler
Burmistrov
Kuznetsov
Johansen
Nino
Tarasenko
Etem
Granlund
Gudbranson
Schwartz
Coyle
Connolly
Gormley
Campbell
Forbort
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Mcilrath
Hishon
Toffoli
Merrill
Tinordi
Psysyk
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Howden
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Watson
Sheahan
Bennett
Pickard
Marincin
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11-02-2011, 10:54 PM
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No Hishon? Disappointing.

1. Hall
2. Skinner
3. Seguin
4. Burmistrov
5. Schwartz
6. Johansen
7. Coyle
8. Tarasenko
9. Fowler
10. Kuznetsov
11. Connolly
12. Hishon
13. Etem
14. Niederreiter
15.Gudbranson
You would really take Hishon above Etem, Nino and Gudbs?

really?

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11-02-2011, 11:01 PM
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That can't be saying TOO much. I'm sure Oiler fans were watching Seguin closely in case the Oilers took him instead.
i was trying to say i have homer-motive for creating a huge gap between hall and seguin, but i only see a small one

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cant agree with Seguin being easy no.2 Fowler and Skinner both have great cases. I just personally like the way Fowler plays, nothing rattles that kid and his defensive game has substantially improved this year I can see him being a Norris contender in a few yrs...Skinner should be a regular ppg player himself.

Nothing against Seguin but Other players have developed very well since the draft...and Tarasenko may be the most talented of them all.
you mean the other players have been allowed to play 15-18 minutes a night in top six roles and PP units all along while seguin was buried on a deep cup winning team?

also both are scoring a PPG this year but seguin in +8 and skinner is -6

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You are wrong.
Connolly had 46 Etem had 45. I wouldnt exactly make a big deal out of it.

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No Hishon? Disappointing.

1. Hall
2. Skinner
3. Seguin
4. Burmistrov
5. Schwartz
6. Johansen
7. Coyle
8. Tarasenko
9. Fowler
10. Kuznetsov
11. Connolly
12. Hishon
13. Etem
14. Niederreiter
15.Gudbranson
Fowler at 9 behind multiple people who still havnt even broken into the NHL......

Hishon over Etem Nino and Gud.

hmmm I guess everyone can have an opinion.

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I know its very early and it will probably take atleast 5 years to get a clear picture but I'm in class and bored so I thought I would give it a go.

Please dont get too crazy if your teams player isnt listed. This was an awesome draft and There is only so much room. I welcome any opinions

I'm sure I probably forgot someone so please point anyone extremely obvious out.

1. Hall
2. Fowler
3. Skinner
4. Seguin
5. Johansen

6. Nino
7. Tarasenko
8. Granlund
9. Etem
10. Gudbranson

11. Coyle
12. Schwartz
13. Connolly
14. Gormley
15. Campbell
I'd be taking Schwartz over Coyle, Guds, Etem, Granldun, Tarasenko,

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Connolly had 46 Etem had 45. I wouldnt exactly make a big deal out of it.



Fowler at 9 behind multiple people who still havnt even broken into the NHL......

Hishon over Etem Nino and Gud.

hmmm I guess everyone can have an opinion.
Why would I make a list and have the top 5 the only players in the NHL. Seriously it's based on potential.

Etem fell to 30th because of his soft play. He can dominate juniors like Wellwood did, but that doesn't mean he will dominate the NHL.

Hishon has a better overall game than Nino.

Gudbranson is a one zone dimensional defenseman.

You're looking into stats too much.

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